Samson's Flow Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 According to a Bay Area Report it's not happening Vance Joseph wanted to hire Todd Downing as OC, that changed yesterday. Now Mike McCoy will be his OC in Denver per multiple sources Per Schefter McCoy and Bill Musgrave are interviewing on Thursday for the job Nothing official yet. Just twitter speculating that is Joseph's preference now that he has the Denver job. OTOH, folks in Denver are flipping out because there are rumors that Wade Phillips might be leaving now that Joseph is there. @MikeSilver As I reported last night, Vance Joseph would like to take Mike McCoy as his OC in Denver. McCoy not in a hurry to make a decision. Quote
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Don't see why Wade would stay. Not sure where he'd go though either Quote
Brawndo Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 More news, someone asked John Wawrow if the deal with McDermott is being finalized, these three tweets came out Nothing I've heard has changed that path. Question now being raised regarding GM Doug Whaley. Another question to JW was what question The response The one I raised on Monday ... John Wawrow @john_wawrow 32m32 minutes ago Oh, boy. I'm sure this'll turn out well. And Just saying, it hasn't been a good few weeks for Doug Whaley. Is Whaley in trouble? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Not that it happens, but Whaley being ousted by the coaching search he spearheaded would be the Billsiest thing to ever Bills :lol: Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Posted January 11, 2017 Not that it happens, but Whaley being ousted by the coaching search he spearheaded would be the Billsiest thing to ever Bills :lol: Oh, man. Yes. There's almost a way in which you could liken it to one of those wacky plot twists in a mob movie. Like when Peschi's character gets whacked when he thinks he's being made at the end of Goodfellas. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Not that it happens, but Whaley being ousted by the coaching search he spearheaded would be the Billsiest thing to ever Bills :lol:Have the Pegulas gotten a lot of feedback from league sources saying he is an impediment to improving? Did McDermott do something to change their minds? Or did Whaley threaten to resign after realizing he would be losing complete control of the 53 man roster? Per Jason LaCanfora Sean McDermott has agreed to become the next head coach of the Buffalo Bills Edited January 11, 2017 by BRAWNDO Quote
Brawndo Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Per Schefter Sean McDermott's likely DC in Buffalo is Panthers LB coach Al Holcomb, per source. Logical hire and promotion. And Norv Turners Name is being mentioned for OC if no McCoy Edited January 11, 2017 by BRAWNDO Quote
inkman Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Why? Trent Dilfer, who's opinion I value highly, went on espn radio and was really, really high on Deshaun Watson. Can see him being a 2nd round pick, but believes he rates him at a top 5 pick. Loves hit attitude, confidence, and says he's a throw first QB. Likens him to Winston :Unsure: what does that have to do with drafting a safety at 10. Quote
Huckleberry Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Nice. Draft up for him, or just pray he slides to us? I say draft up Also, why hasn't Dabo gotten any looks from NFL teams for coaching vacancies? Think that qualifies you for a job in the Bills FO I wouldn't draft up for him, if you QB isn't there at #10 , pick up a safety. Quote
Taro T Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Per Schefter Sean McDermott's likely DC in Buffalo is Panthers LB coach Al Holcomb, per source. Logical hire and promotion. And Norv Turners Name is being mentioned for OC if no McCoy Not too thrilled w/ bringing Turner. Would rather keep Lynn (if possible) if McCoy turns them down. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Nice. Draft up for him, or just pray he slides to us? I say draft up I'd definitely be willing to trade up for him. I was hoping that his up and down season would cause him to slide, but that doesn't appear to be the case at the moment. Are the Bills actually going to take a QB in the first round, do you guys think? If Tyrod isn't retained, I think there's a good chance. Though going safety and hoping Mahomes is there in round 2 makes sense too. Not too thrilled w/ bringing Turner. Would rather keep Lynn (if possible) if McCoy turns them down. There's the rub. I suppose anything is possible, but I'd be kinda surprised if Lynn stuck around unless he has no other equivalent (or better) options. Quote
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Ugh, I want nothing to do with Mahomes Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Ugh, I want nothing to do with Mahomes I think I'd rather have him at 42 than Trubisky at 10. Quote
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I think I'd rather have him at 42 than Trubisky at 10.Yeah but I really really want neither of them. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Not too thrilled w/ bringing Turner. Would rather keep Lynn (if possible) if McCoy turns them down. John Clayton was on GR earlier and has some interesting thoughts. First he feels that McCoy will take the Buffalo Job over Denver, because he, McDermott and Kyle Shanahan all have the same agent. The agent feels slighted that Shanahan did not get the Denver Gig and will attempt to steer Mc Coy away. Plus he mentioned that Elway did not want McCoy to be the OC in Denver the first time around and that John Fox intervened on his behalf. Whether this will actually affect his decision, who knows? Also Clayton mentioned that Turner would not take the Buffalo OC Job because he would prefer to coach on the West Coast Quote
inkman Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 If I'm an old crusty dude like Norv, I want nussing to do with freezing azz buffaro Quote
Brawndo Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Chargers will announce their intention to move to LA on Thursday. This would have been the Bills. Edited January 12, 2017 by BRAWNDO Quote
Stoner Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Will Terry be at the presser tomorrow or just keep texting his BFF JW? He's learning a lot from the ###### he voted for. I'm not a fan anymore, but I do follow the Bills situation. I like Chuck Pollock, who has been covering the Bills for the Olean paper for decades and is very well respected. So I read his column on the Bills' hire. Twice. I still can't make heads or tails of what's going on with that franchise. Chuck's getting up there in years, but I don't think it's him. Seriously, WTF? http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/will-mcdermott-function-without-whaley-meddling/article_c5004888-d880-11e6-916c-4723248d186b.html Edited January 12, 2017 by PASabreFan Quote
MattPie Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Will Terry be at the presser tomorrow or just keep texting his BFF JW? He's learning a lot from the ###### he voted for. I'm not a fan anymore, but I do follow the Bills situation. I like Chuck Pollock, who has been covering the Bills for the Olean paper for decades and is very well respected. So I read his column on the Bills' hire. Twice. I still can't make heads or tails of what's going on with that franchise. Chuck's getting up there in years, but I don't think it's him. Seriously, WTF? http://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/will-mcdermott-function-without-whaley-meddling/article_c5004888-d880-11e6-916c-4723248d186b.html I took two things from that: one, he's mad that whatever leaks are happening aren't getting to him. He thinks that's Whaley, so he's not charitable to anything else Whaley does. Two, is a little unclear, but he either doesn't agree with or doesn't get the idea that playing Tyrod Taylor for the last game could put the Bills into a crappy situation in terms of the cap if the new coach wants a different QB. He only mentions it as proof that the Bills are going to cut Taylor, not from the standpoint that it gives them flexibility. I'm not saying that's a great call on the Bills' part, but it does have logic. If I'm thinking about buying a new house, I'm not going commit to a new car bought in cash using the down payment money tomorrow; I wait until I have a better picture and then make decisions. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 ^ I'm not sure it's clear that the Pegulas "made the choice." It sounded, and seemed, as though they more or less did what they said they'd do: Whaley interviewed candidates, and then made recommendations to the Pegulas. The Pegulas then satisfied themselves that they were ready to hire a candidate that Whaley recommended. But, yes. There were indications that seemed to suggest that the Pegulas were driving the process a bit, and maybe even negotiating off-line of Whaley about giving power to the new HC that otherwise would belong to Whaley. In any case, it seems like they hired a very good candidate. I've read some of the guys interviews from the past -- Christ, does he work insane hours. Keep at it like that, and he'll be lucky to see 60. It is, as always, very much an open question on whether he can succeed. Best of luck to him. In other news: The Pegulas continue to need a president/VP of football operations. But please do not hire someone from the Bills' glory days. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Doug Marrone wants to hire Donnie Henderson, and Tom Coughlin won't let him. That sounds like it's off to a great start :lol: Quote
Samson's Flow Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Good breakdown from BuffaloRumblings as to the difference between Rex's 3-4 and McDermott's 4-3 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/12/14236950/sean-mcdermott-buffalo-bills-head-coach-4-3-defense-all-22 Doug Marrone wants to hire Donnie Henderson, and Tom Coughlin won't let him. That sounds like it's off to a great start :lol: Saint Doug at it again! Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 Doug Marrone wants to hire Donnie Henderson, and Tom Coughlin won't let him. That sounds like it's off to a great start :lol: Oh, hell yes! I'm holding out hope that Coughlin took the VP gig because he secretly wants another shot at being a HC. Quote
Stoner Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 ^ I'm not sure it's clear that the Pegulas "made the choice." It sounded, and seemed, as though they more or less did what they said they'd do: Whaley interviewed candidates, and then made recommendations to the Pegulas. The Pegulas then satisfied themselves that they were ready to hire a candidate that Whaley recommended. But, yes. There were indications that seemed to suggest that the Pegulas were driving the process a bit, and maybe even negotiating off-line of Whaley about giving power to the new HC that otherwise would belong to Whaley. In any case, it seems like they hired a very good candidate. I've read some of the guys interviews from the past -- Christ, does he work insane hours. Keep at it like that, and he'll be lucky to see 60. It is, as always, very much an open question on whether he can succeed. Best of luck to him. In other news: The Pegulas continue to need a president/VP of football operations. But please do not hire someone from the Bills' glory days. What about making the GM and candidate go to Florida? Is that anything? If Whaley was making the hire, it seems like the final meetings would be in Whaley's office at OBD and the Pegulas would fly up and sign off. There's also a pic of the new coach between the Pegulas, with Whaley to Kim's left. So... Terry coach Kim Doug. Not a great look. Bills PR should have had just the coach and the Pegulas in the pic, then the coach with Whaley, Whaley with the coach and one of the Pegulas, etc. Finally, one of the reasons Terry liked coach is that coach was a good wrestler in high school (in PA, of course). That's some Ralph Wilson territory right thur. All that said, I think it's a good hire, because it's not flashy. Maybe the dog is wagging the tail now. Coach should get four years. And report to Whaley. Quote
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