Thorner Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 WE GOT KULIKOV TO GET GORGES INTO A BETTER SPOT FOR HIS ABILITIES Well, at least we'll be reminded why Risto's advanced stats were bad. The Gorges-chip-up-the-wall-no-matter-what play will do that to anybody. Right? I was greatly anticipating an actual top pair. Yeesh. I thought word was ROR was in? More unfavourable news, it looks like. Quote
nfreeman Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Well, I'm glad the Risto contract hysteria has found a new home. Kulikov and Risto both missed a lot of camp. It's entirely logical to keep Risto with his partner from last year and to shelter Kulikov until both of them scrape off the rust. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Well, I'm glad the Risto contract hysteria has found a new home. Kulikov and Risto both missed a lot of camp. It's entirely logical to keep Risto with his partner from last year and to shelter Kulikov until both of them scrape off the rust. So by the start of the 2nd period? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Well, I'm glad the Risto contract hysteria has found a new home. Kulikov and Risto both missed a lot of camp. It's entirely logical to keep Risto with his partner from last year and to shelter Kulikov until both of them scrape off the rust. Rust? They both played in the World Cup, pretty sure they'll be fine. The only logical reason Gorges should ever be on the top pair is if the alternative is Cody Franson playing his offhand side. Quote
jsb Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm glad the Risto contract hysteria has found a new home. Kulikov and Risto both missed a lot of camp. It's entirely logical to keep Risto with his partner from last year and to shelter Kulikov until both of them scrape off the rust. Maybe instead of the bolded you could have said gain some chemistry together. Better yet maybe you could install a fence around the cliff so the hormonal wouldn't jump off of at any type of preconceived notion they have with the lineup they want that the coach doesn't comply with. Edited October 13, 2016 by jsb Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Maybe instead of the bolded you could have said gain some chemistry together. Better yet maybe you could install a fence around the cliff so the hormonal wouldn't jump off of at any type of preconceived notion they have with the lineup they want that the coach doesn't comply with. He should comply with me! I know way less about hockey than he does. Quote
nfreeman Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Rust? They both played in the World Cup, pretty sure they'll be fine. The only logical reason Gorges should ever be on the top pair is if the alternative is Cody Franson playing his offhand side. OK -- rust probably wasn't the right word... Maybe instead of the bolded you could have said gain some chemistry together. Better yet maybe you could install a fence around the cliff so the hormonal wouldn't jump off of at any type of preconceived notion they have with the lineup they want that the coach doesn't comply with. ...and JSB has beaten me to it, both with a better description of the Risto/Kuli factor and with an incisive observation about the last dozen or so posts here. Quote
Eleven Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Not for the Habs. This is a fairly valid point but I'd still rather see a true top pair. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Maybe instead of the bolded you could have said gain some chemistry together. Better yet maybe you could install a fence around the cliff so the hormonal wouldn't jump off of at any type of preconceived notion they have with the lineup they want that the coach doesn't comply with. If you want to pretend Bylsma didn't just have an entire season of poor lineup decisions, that's your choice. But the assessment he struggles with properly evaluating which players fit best with one another is based upon said season of observation, not any chemical imbalances. OK -- rust probably wasn't the right word... ...and JSB has beaten me to it, both with a better description of the Risto/Kuli factor and with an incisive observation about the last dozen or so posts here. Calling a group of posters hormonal qualifies as an incisive observation? Interesting. Quote
Eleven Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 If you want to pretend Bylsma didn't just have an entire season of poor lineup decisions, that's your choice. But the assessment he struggles with properly evaluating which players fit best with one another is based upon said season of observation, not any chemical imbalances. Calling a group of posters hormonal qualifies as an incisive observation? Interesting. Yeah. I mean technically, everyone is hormonal, right? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/oreilly-to-play-against-montreal/c-282618216 For tonight In: ROR(no faceoffs) Fasching and Nelson Out: Jack, Okposo and Kulikov It will be interesting to see the D pairings now. Franson/Nelson as the bottom pair? Quote
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Putting Risto with Gorges instead of Kuli because that's "what he knows" is just as nonsensical as keeping Samson at wing because that's what he knows. Risto and Kulikov are going to have to learn to play together one way or another, just like Sasmon is going to have to play center at the NHL level eventually. Even if Hot Daniel wants to keep Samson on the wing forever (please gods no), it'll still be beneficial for the team as a whole for Sam to have center experience. Quote
Samson's Flow Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Putting Risto with Gorges instead of Kuli because that's "what he knows" is just as nonsensical as keeping Samson at wing because that's what he knows. Risto and Kulikov are going to have to learn to play together one way or another, just like Sasmon is going to have to play center at the NHL level eventually. Even if Hot Daniel wants to keep Samson on the wing forever (please gods no), it'll still be beneficial for the team as a whole for Sam to have center experience. Seeing as Kulikov is now out for this game, I am going to give DDB the pass and say those initial pairings were just to limit Kulikov knowing he is nursing an injury, and not the pairings he actually wants to use all year. Then again you never know. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Seeing as Kulikov is now out for this game, I am going to give DDB the pass and say those initial pairings were just to limit Kulikov knowing he is nursing an injury, and not the pairings he actually wants to use all year. Then again you never know. Yeah, my outrage was entirely ignoring that fact :) Quote
beerme1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Putting Risto with Gorges instead of Kuli because that's "what he knows" is just as nonsensical as keeping Samson at wing because that's what he knows. Risto and Kulikov are going to have to learn to play together one way or another, just like Sasmon is going to have to play center at the NHL level eventually. Even if Hot Daniel wants to keep Samson on the wing forever (please gods no), it'll still be beneficial for the team as a whole for Sam to have center experience. I don't want him trying in game 1 to open the season at home. Go for it in game 2 Quote
qwksndmonster Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 I don't want him trying in game 1 to open the season at home. Go for it in game 2Who, Sam at center? He'll be (for lack of a better word) fine. Kid has ice in his veins. Quote
beerme1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Who, Sam at center? He'll be (for lack of a better word) fine. Kid has ice in his veins. Yes I know where you're coming from but I don't think this game is when we start this experiment if you will. Ganme 2 on the road and closer to home for him. Let him loose. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 But Dan has direct control over Sam's deployment as far as who he goes against at home, he won't get that benefit in Edmonton. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 That's why we don't want Gorges on the top pairing. That's why he needs to be sheltered. Get well soon Kulikov Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 But Dan has direct control over Sam's deployment as far as who he goes against at home, he won't get that benefit in Edmonton. I want him to see McJesus, to play opposite him. I like the ice in the veins thing, but lighting a fire wouldn't hurt either. Quote
Brawndo Posted October 15, 2016 Report Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Baptiste getting the call up Per Ryan Wolfe of BLTD Sports Edited October 15, 2016 by BRAWNDO Quote
3putt Posted October 15, 2016 Report Posted October 15, 2016 Psyched. Now put him on Samsons wing. That of course means moving him to center. Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 15, 2016 Report Posted October 15, 2016 Psyched. Now put him on Samsons wing. That of course means moving him to center. I'd go Ennis - O'Reilly - Baptiste Moulson - Reinhart - Fasching Foligno - Larsson - Gionta Zemgus - Grant - Deslauriers Maybe switch moulson with gus, but they both suck anyway. Quote
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