2016-'17 Lineup

[Ogre]

  On 12/14/2016 at 2:58 AM, EichSnipe said:

I hope! Dreaming of Nylander-Eichel-Okposo... but I guess that's for the future '17-'18 thread :)

I hope Nylander has a huge offseason and packs on 25 lbs and learns how to use it. More likely he spends 17-18 in Roch and that's not a bad thing. We need to be patient with some of the younger players.

[Doohicksie]

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:31 AM, Randall Flagg said:

Pretty sure I recall Murray bragging about being able to get a 4th liner or 3rd pair D in a trade whenever he wanted at one point.

 

This qualifies as a time where that makes sense, 2 games in 2 nights with a possible corps of

 

McCabe-Risto

Falk-Franson

Guhle-....Bergdorfer?

We got better...

[Thorner]

  On 12/14/2016 at 1:24 AM, Randall Flagg said:

Can anyone name one single good thing Jack and Evander have combined to make happen since Jack came back?

 

Jack's sweet pass to Kane for his goal in the game tonight!

[Randall Flagg]

  On 12/14/2016 at 8:26 AM, Thorny said:

Jack's sweet pass to Kane for his goal in the game tonight!

I've gotta start doing that during games more often.

 

"Name one good thing Zemgus does."

"Had Lehner ever stopped a breakaway?"

"Name the last time the Sabres won ten straight games."

[Thorner]

  On 12/14/2016 at 3:08 PM, Randall Flagg said:

I've gotta start doing that during games more often.

"Name one good thing Zemgus does."

"Had Lehner ever stopped a breakaway?"

"Name the last time the Sabres won ten straight games."

:lol:

[Brawndo]

Practice lines from today

 

#Sabres lines today:

Carrier-ROR-Reinhart

Moulson-Eichel-Okposo

Foligno-Larsson-Gionta

Deslauriers-Girgensons-Kane

[MattPie]

  On 12/15/2016 at 5:45 PM, BRAWNDO said:

Practice lines from today

 

#Sabres lines today:

Carrier-ROR-Reinhart

Moulson-Eichel-Okposo

Foligno-Larsson-Gionta

Deslauriers-Girgensons-Kane

 

Ouch Kane, 4th line on the wrong wing?

[TrueBlueGED]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:12 PM, MattPie said:

Ouch Kane, 4th line on the wrong wing?

 

Unless Bylsma is willing to break up FLG, that's the most logical spot for him to be.

[nfreeman]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:27 PM, TrueBlueGED said:

Unless Bylsma is willing to break up FLG, that's the most logical spot for him to be.

 

I assume you mean "the most logical spot for him to be when DDB is PO'd at him and trying to send him a message," innit?  (This is the impression I got from DDB's interview on WGR the other day.)

 

Or do you think that Moulson is a more effective player than Kaner?

[Derrico]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:32 PM, nfreeman said:

I assume you mean "the most logical spot for him to be when DDB is PO'd at him and trying to send him a message," innit?  (This is the impression I got from DDB's interview on WGR the other day.)

 

Or do you think that Moulson is a more effective player than Kaner?

Overall I think Kane is the better player.  However, based on his style I'm thinking Moulson is a better fit for that line.

[TrueBlueGED]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:32 PM, nfreeman said:

I assume you mean "the most logical spot for him to be when DDB is PO'd at him and trying to send him a message," innit?  (This is the impression I got from DDB's interview on WGR the other day.)

 

Or do you think that Moulson is a more effective player than Kaner?

 

I meant precisely what I said. Kane is currently a better player than Moulson, but he's a negative on better teammates, whereas Moulson is just a giant zero. Kane is at his best when he's flying around, dominating the puck, running and gunning with reckless abandon. If he's doing that next to Eichel, O'Reilly, Okposo, and/or Reinhart, he's taking the puck away from them and the team is better when they have the puck more than Kane does due to his subpar sense/vision/passing. Alternatively, if Kane is dialing it back, his own effectiveness is reduced. It's best for the team if Kane is the driving offensive force on a line where it doesn't matter if he's taking puck time away from his linemates--on this team, that's on either the Larsson line or the 4th line, and since Bylsma refuses to break up FLG, his spot is on the 4th line.

[Derrico]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:49 PM, TrueBlueGED said:

I meant precisely what I said. Kane is currently a better player than Moulson, but he's a negative on better teammates, whereas Moulson is just a giant zero. Kane is at his best when he's flying around, dominating the puck, running and gunning with reckless abandon. If he's doing that next to Eichel, O'Reilly, Okposo, and/or Reinhart, he's taking the puck away from them and the team is better when they have the puck more than Kane does due to his subpar sense/vision/passing. Alternatively, if Kane is dialing it back, his own effectiveness is reduced. It's best for the team if Kane is the driving offensive force on a line where it doesn't matter if he's taking puck time away from his linemates--on this team, that's on either the Larsson line or the 4th line, and since Bylsma refuses to break up FLG, his spot is on the 4th line.

I don't think Bylsma should break up that line.  To me the whole is better than the sum of the parts for whatever reason with that trio.

[Jacque Richard]

What happened to bailey? I thought he would be up with big club.

[Derrico]

  On 12/15/2016 at 7:15 PM, Jacque Richard said:

What happened to bailey? I thought he would be up with big club.

I keep thinking he's the one ripping it up down in Roch.  But I'm always just misreading it and it's actually Baptiste doing that.....

[spndnchz]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:32 PM, nfreeman said:

I assume you mean "the most logical spot for him to be when DDB is PO'd at him and trying to send him a message," innit?  (This is the impression I got from DDB's interview on WGR the other day.)

 

Or do you think that Moulson is a more effective player than Kaner?

 

Yes. I think it's more Moulson over Kane than anything else.

  On 12/15/2016 at 7:20 PM, Derrico said:

I keep thinking he's the one ripping it up down in Roch.  But I'm always just misreading it and it's actually Baptiste doing that.....

 

Baptiste!

[qwksndmonster]

I'd rather Zemgus get some Eichel time instead of Moulson.

[Hank]

  On 12/15/2016 at 7:22 PM, qwksndmonster said:

I'd rather Zemgus get some Eichel time instead of Moulson.

I agree. I'd love to see Girgs-eich-KO for three games without line juggling to see if they develop chemistry.

[Sabel79]

  On 12/15/2016 at 6:32 PM, nfreeman said:

I assume you mean "the most logical spot for him to be when DDB is PO'd at him and trying to send him a message," innit?  (This is the impression I got from DDB's interview on WGR the other day.)

 

Or do you think that Moulson is a more effective player than Kaner?

One-Game Sample size, but Matty Mo looked surprisingly good playing with Eich and Kyle. Long may it continue.  I give it to the start of the second period Tomorrow night. 

[WildCard]

  On 12/15/2016 at 7:22 PM, qwksndmonster said:

I'd rather Zemgus get some Eichel time instead of Moulson.

Same, especially if we're trying to trade him

 

But, Moulson has earned it. Or, maybe Zemgus and Kane have just relinquished it instead

[Brawndo]

Some new-looking lines:

Foligno-O'Reilly-Reinhart

Moulson-Eichel-Okposo

Kane-Larsson-Gionta

Carrier-Grant-Girgensons

Deslauriers

 

I like that 3rd Line

[WildCard]

I like those lines. We have absolutely miserable LWs though

Edited December 19, 2016 by WildCard

[Samson's Flow]

  On 12/19/2016 at 9:22 PM, BRAWNDO said:

Some new-looking lines:

Foligno-O'Reilly-Reinhart

Moulson-Eichel-Okposo

Kane-Larsson-Gionta

Carrier-Grant-Girgensons

Deslauriers

 

I like that 3rd Line

I too like those lines. Kane on the third line (!!!) - my dream come true.

  On 12/19/2016 at 9:32 PM, WildCard said:

I like those lines. We have absolutely miserable Laws though

I'm going to assume that was an autocorrect of "LWs". In which case I agree.

[WildCard]

  On 12/19/2016 at 9:34 PM, Touched by Boyes said:

I too like those lines. Kane on the third line (!!!) - my dream come true.

 

I'm going to assume that was an autocorrect of "LWs". In which case I agree.

Indeed but honestly both apply

[Doohicksie]

I agree with moving Carrier and Kane off the top 6 (although Kane's been on the 4th line for a while).  I have high hopes for Carrier, but I think moving him down isn't a bad idea.  Let him earn the top line time.  I don't mind giving Foligno a look at top 6.  Not crazy about Moulson in top 6, but he *is* second on the team in scoring.  This isn't bad I guess; the other permutation would be to swap Moulson and Kaner.  We've seen Kane on that line already though.

 

As others said.... LW could use some help in this lineup.  The rest looks pretty good.  I guess we know what GMTM will be looking to shore up in upcoming trades.  Maybe the lines will gel and all the pieces will start to mesh.  Eh.  Maybe not.

[qwksndmonster]

I'm glad Dan is done with Zemgus forever and Moulson gets to weigh Jack down 5 on 5 no matter how many games he does absolutely nothing.