MODO Hockey Posted February 21, 2016 Report Posted February 21, 2016 Linus Ullmark stopped a season-high 51 shots to lead the Rochester Americans to a 6-2 dismantling of the Syracuse Crunch Saturday night at the War Memorial Arena. Quote
Thorner Posted February 22, 2016 Report Posted February 22, 2016 It's great to see Linus continuing to play so well. No worries from me about goaltending going forward, between Lehner and Ullmark. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 Ullmark with player of the week honours in the A. I do wonder what GM TM's thoughts are on carrying two ostensible #1's. Or, at least, guys who will warrant a shot as a #1. Quote
sabills Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 Ullmark with player of the week honours in the A. I do wonder what GM TM's thoughts are on carrying two ostensible #1's. Or, at least, guys who will warrant a shot as a #1. I don't remember what interview it was, but in one of the talks with the WGR afternoon guys Murray said he definitely thought of Ullmark as a future number 1. Lehner has played well, and I think he's GMTM's guy, so I wonder if Linus doesn't get shipped out in a year or two when its clear he's ready to be a full time number one. So much can happen in that time that its not really worth thinking about now, but I bet its on Murray's mind. Quote
dudacek Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 Guys Linus' age and experience aren't number ones in the NHL in this day and age. They just aren't. Assuming Robin doesn't get injured or self-destruct, Linus will play most of next year in the AHL. The following year he will enter the season as an NHL back-up. If he's as good as we think he is, this will become a question in the 2018/19 season. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) ^ Good stuff. Thanks, both. Edited February 23, 2016 by That Aud Smell Quote
WildCard Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 Guys Linus' age and experience aren't number ones in the NHL in this day and age. They just aren't. Assuming Robin doesn't get injured or self-destruct, Linus will play most of next year in the AHL. The following year he will enter the season as an NHL back-up. If he's as good as we think he is, this will become a question in the 2018/19 season. How do you figure that? As in, are there other examples of goalies with that age/experience but playing as well as Linus has, both in the NHL and AHL? Quote
dudacek Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 How do you figure that? As in, are there other examples of goalies with that age/experience but playing as well as Linus has, both in the NHL and AHL? At work. Not enough time for full answer, but John Gibson and Jake Allen are two that come to mind. Quote
MODO Hockey Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Ullmark with player of the week honours in the A. I do wonder what GM TM's thoughts are on carrying two ostensible #1's. Or, at least, guys who will warrant a shot as a #1. http://www.amerks.com/article/ULLMARK%20NAMED%20CCM-AHL%20PLAYER%20OF%20THE%20WEEK Link if any1 want to read about Edited February 26, 2016 by MODO Hockey Quote
dudacek Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 How do you figure that? As in, are there other examples of goalies with that age/experience but playing as well as Linus has, both in the NHL and AHL? Promised to follow up when I had the time. This is the list of all the number one goalies, along with their age and how many pro seasons they'd played before breaking through as a clear-cut starter Ryan Miller: 4, 25 Martin Jones: 6, 26 Semyon Varlamov: 4, 25 Frederick Anderson: 3, 25 Mike Smith: 9, 29 Cam Talbot: 6, 29 Jonathan Quick, 3, 23 Anti niemi: 3, 26 Kari Lehtonen 4, 24 Corey Crawford 6, 26 Pekka Rinne, 4, 26 Ondrej Pavelec 4, 23 Devon Dubnyk 9, 28 Tuuka Rask 7, 26 Carey Price 4, 24 (he was splitting however as a rookie) Robin Lehner 6, 24 Craig Anderson 9, 28 Robert Luongo 3, 23 jimmy Howard 5, 25 Ben Bishop 6, 27 Henrik Lundqvist, 1, 23 Jaro Halak 6, 25 Brayden Holtby 5, 24 Corey Schnieder 7, 27 MA Fleury 3, 22 Sergei Bobrovsky 1, 22 Other than the oddity of Bob, you've got very few goalies stepping into the number one job in the past 10 years at less than age 24, or Prior to their fourth year pro. If Linus is challenging in two or three years, he will be ahead of the curve. Quote
WildCard Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Damn, that is one impressive list. How did you find that data? Just brute force? For perspecitve: Linus Ullmark, 1, 22. So, with Lehner here and playing very well lately (seems I jumped on him a little too early), it looks like Linus may indeed be destined for an AHL role, or back-up. I still think he's the back-up next year though Quote
dudacek Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Damn, that is one impressive list. How did you find that data? Just brute force? For perspecitve: Linus Ullmark, 1, 22. So, with Lehner here and playing very well lately (seems I jumped on him a little too early), it looks like Linus may indeed be destined for an AHL role, or back-up. I still think he's the back-up next year though Parsed it all from hockeydb. I think he will be as good as our backup next year, probably better, but I think the team is better off giving him 60+ games in Rochester than 25 behind Lehner. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) http://www.amerks.com/article/ULLMARK%20NAMED%20CCM-AHL%20PLAYER%20OF%20THE%20WEEK Link if any1 want to read about Thanks, MODO. ^ And that is the *good* stuff, dudacek. Edited February 26, 2016 by That Aud Smell Quote
sabills Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Promised to follow up when I had the time. This is the list of all the number one goalies, along with their age and how many pro seasons they'd played before breaking through as a clear-cut starter Ryan Miller: 4, 25 Martin Jones: 6, 26 Semyon Varlamov: 4, 25 Frederick Anderson: 3, 25 Mike Smith: 9, 29 Cam Talbot: 6, 29 Jonathan Quick, 3, 23 Anti niemi: 3, 26 Kari Lehtonen 4, 24 Corey Crawford 6, 26 Pekka Rinne, 4, 26 Ondrej Pavelec 4, 23 Devon Dubnyk 9, 28 Tuuka Rask 7, 26 Carey Price 4, 24 (he was splitting however as a rookie) Robin Lehner 6, 24 Craig Anderson 9, 28 Robert Luongo 3, 23 jimmy Howard 5, 25 Ben Bishop 6, 27 Henrik Lundqvist, 1, 23 Jaro Halak 6, 25 Brayden Holtby 5, 24 Corey Schnieder 7, 27 MA Fleury 3, 22 Sergei Bobrovsky 1, 22 Other than the oddity of Bob, you've got very few goalies stepping into the number one job in the past 10 years at less than age 24, or Prior to their fourth year pro. If Linus is challenging in two or three years, he will be ahead of the curve. Wow, great legwork. :thumbsup: Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Posted February 26, 2016 I would like to see Ullmark play next season in Rochester but I still believe he becomes our full time #1 in a couple years. Quote
MODO Hockey Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I would like to see Ullmark as backup for Lehner next season! Quote
MODO Hockey Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Linus Ullmark is playing like a boss, awesome news." The Amerks scored once in each period on goals from Cole Schneider, Justin Bailey and Chad Ruhwedel while Linus Ullmark was again outstanding in net for Rochester, stopping 42 of 43 attempts, including a highlight reel glove save, on his way to earning first star honors. The former Swedish Goaltender of the Year has now won a season-long four straight games and has topped the 40-save mark in six of his 19 starts this season. "http://www.amerks.com/recap/20160316 Quote
darksabre Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Really loving Ullmark's game. I think his time in Buffalo made a huge difference. Quote
WildCard Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 I still think Ullmark is the goalie of our future. Lehner is fun to watch, and I may have been overly harsh on him in the beginning, but I still take Ullmark over Lehner Quote
clintwestwood Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Lehner sat out today due to an apparent lower body injury. Ullmark to the rescue? Quote
darksabre Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Lehner sat out today due to an apparent lower body injury. Ullmark to the rescue? Kasdorf. Quote
MODO Hockey Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Nice saves indeed, and a beauty to finish the game with a fight.To bad that goal came from defender, otherwize ullmark would have been 100%. Edited March 17, 2016 by MODO Hockey Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Any time a GM gives up a first to get a goalie, I have to believe that he thinks that is the goalie of the future. Quote
pi2000 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Any time a GM gives up a first to get a goalie, I have to believe that he thinks that is the goalie of the future. this. I don't see GMTM giving Ullmark a shot at the #1 spot next season and he needs to play. I could see him possibly get moved as part of a larger deal over the summer, or spend all next season in Roch unless there are injuries. Quote
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