hockeyhound Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 What was impression of Ullmark debut? Like a kid who has never played in an NHL game before. Quote
darksabre Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Like a kid who has never played in an NHL game before. Accurate. He looked shaky. Quote
inkman Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 WGR online not working? Working for me. Looking for your nightly dick kicking? Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Maybe you don't and I don't but that's what they did. To expect the back up and back up's back up to stone an NHL team is overly optimistic. Â I'll say it again, it's not a dig on the goaltenders, it's the situation that Murray put them in. Quote
WildCard Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Posted October 25, 2015 Ullmark had his moments. He seems pretty good at tracking the puck through traffic, but his scramble ability and getting from post to post for pucks around the crease was poor to say the least Quote
3putt Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 What was impression of Ullmark debut? A few bad reads and he was late on a few cross crease moves, but I posted up thread that he is coming off double hip replacement surgery and missed of all camp, the preseason and is playing his 4th professional game in NA. I hoped for more but he probably played as well as could be expected. He is big though and seems very athletic. Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Working for me. Looking for your nightly dick kicking? Â Was trying to. Nada. Not even the Android app. Quote
hockeyhound Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) I never think about the price paid for a player. I don't think Murray views it that way either. He acquires assets to build a team. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Does Murray go after a veteran goaltender? I'm sure this has to be something they're discussing. Edited October 25, 2015 by hockeyhound Quote
Hoss Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I'll say it again, it's not a dig on the goaltenders, it's the situation that Murray put them in. What else did you want Murray to do? You can't have an ace at every position and backup spot. He could've cut Johnson and tried convincing a free agent to come be a backup here. I'm not sure there'd be a huge difference there. Might as well see what you have in Johnson as a backup. Quote
Tondas Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 We need Bogo back soon. Weber/Carlo are really hurting us. Franson has offensive upside so he's OK. I'm still little disappointed in Gorges. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Ennis should be trade bait.... For all he gives, he takes away at some point.. You have jack #### eichel on your line and you go in 1 on 4,fall and turn it over Quote
Tondas Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Ullmark had his moments. He seems pretty good at tracking the puck through traffic, but his scramble ability and getting from post to post for pucks around the crease was poor to say the least  I thought he played the puck well.  That sounds very much like we punted well. Ennis should be trade bait.... For all he gives, he takes away at some point.. You have jack #### eichel on your line and you go in 1 on 4,fall and turn it over  I think Ennis is valuable. Every other team would be interested in him. What would you want for him? Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Does Murray go after a veteran goaltender? I'm sure this has to be something they're discussing.  I hope so. There were plenty of FA's that were available that I'd rather have in net right now. Granted, they may not have wanted to sign, but three of them played for the Sabres last year. Ullmark had his moments. He seems pretty good at tracking the puck through traffic, but his scramble ability and getting from post to post for pucks around the crease was poor to say the least   I thought he played the puck well.  That sounds very much like we punted well.  I think Ennis is valuable. Every other team would be interested in him. What would you want for him?  I thought he looked pretty calm and composed for his first game. Quote
musichunch Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I'm fine with the team this year.  We're coming off two historically bad seasons. Now we have an abundance of major offensive talent that's flying all over the ice, but hasn't been able to cash in yet. Defense is so-so and goaltending has been below average.  This is what successful rebuilds look like folks: 1. Horrible seasons 2. Inconsistent losing seasons with flashes of greatness 3. More consistent winning seasons/low-mid playoff berths 4. Breakout year/top playoff seed/long playoff run 5. Long-term elite team/dynasty Quote
... Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I never think about the price paid for a player. I don't think Murray views it that way either. He acquires assets to build a team. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. With all due respect, I don't believe you never consider the market value of a player. I don't even want to search posts to rebut this claim, it's so...ridiculous. Every player has a market value that needs to be considered. The entire player acquisition system is set up around players' market values (which means how much they're paid, of course). Quote
dudacek Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Ullmark looked kinda like Johnson last game: leaky. His size and his positioning give me hope he can develop.  Lehner was supposed to be the man, is supposed to be the man and still might be the man. Johnson is as good a backup as anyone else. This situation is as much on Murray as the 15 or 20 other GMs aiming to ride one goalie  I thought that was one of our weaker performances this year in terms of team defence. Looked like Kane might have been a ligament. Did not look good. Quote
Tondas Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I hope so. There were plenty of FA's that were available that I'd rather have in net right now. Granted, they may not have wanted to sign, but three of them played for the Sabres last year.    I thought he looked pretty calm and composed for his first game.   He didnt look out of place, but didnt make any really big saves. I think the speed of the NHL game surprised him (expectedly so). For his first NHL game, I'll go B-. Quote
darksabre Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I'm fine with the team this year. Â We're coming off two historically bad seasons. Now we have an abundance of major offensive talent that's flying all over the ice, but hasn't been able to cash in yet. Defense is so-so and goaltending has been below average. Â This is what successful rebuilds look like folks: 1. Horrible seasons 2. Inconsistent losing seasons with flashes of greatness 3. More consistent winning seasons/low-mid playoff berths 4. Breakout year/top playoff seed/long playoff run 5. Long-term elite team/dynasty Get outta here with your reasonable expectations. How dare you. Quote
3putt Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I thought he played the puck well.  That sounds very much like we punted well.  I think Ennis is valuable. Every other team would be interested in him. What would you want for him? Vanek Quote
French Collection Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 During the 2nd intermission on HNIC, Friedman talked about Ducks poor start and added they have been scouting the Sabres last 2 games. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Â I think Ennis is valuable. Every other team would be interested in him. What would you want for him? Nothing specific, but a top 4 Damn and a prospect could come back I believe.... We have some horses up front (minus Kane injury) I just think he's too inconsistent, and this dates back before this season Quote
Tondas Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 With all due respect, I don't believe you never consider the market value of a player. I don't even want to search posts to rebut this claim, it's so...ridiculous. Every player has a market value that needs to be considered. The entire player acquisition system is set up around players' market values (which means how much they're paid, of course).  Agreed. I think GMTM thought about finances last year when he gave Mezaros $4 million. That was a calculated tank move to look like a reasonable salary for a veteran while ensuring he got to the CAP floor. That move was shrewd. Franson this year was financially motivated. No way he's on the team at $ 5 milion. Quote
WildCard Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Posted October 25, 2015 No update on Kane from Bylsma.Differene between a fun couple months and months tortured by revisiting te trade and Kane's health. That and watching Gionta play 20+ minutes/game Quote
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