GDT: Ottawa @ Buffalo, 7pm edt, 10/08/2015

[Thorner]

Hmm. Maybe he _is_ on his way to Roch.

 

 

Already on the bus to Rochester.

 

I would be very surprised if they sent Reinhart back to Rochester. They wouldn't have had him on the team to start the year if they didn't plan on keeping him here. His benching in the third was puzzling, but he was pretty good today.

 

Having that goal taken away felt cruel, was feeling really pumped when it seemed like we had tied the game. Eichel looked great out there, as did Kane. Lehner was good till he got hurt, hopefully he's not out too long. Risto had a slow start but really started to show some jump as the game went on.

 

Overall, an entertaining start. It would be good for us to remember to not expect too much too soon. We are a very young team and need to build chemistry. But we are definitely on the upswing, and I think the incline will be a sharp one.

 

Also, I dig the goal song.

[TrueBlueGED]

I was thinking of that one Boston goal from what...the playoffs last year? Yeah. Sometimes refs just blow the call. Gotta live with that and move on with the game. 

 

I just disagree...I want goal calls to be right. Was anyone saying "sometimes refs just blow the call" in '99? I know the situation was different, but I dunno...I want accuracy.

[Ottosmagic13]

I was thinking of that one Boston goal from what...the playoffs last year? Yeah. Sometimes refs just blow the call. Gotta live with that and move on with the game. 

See that's the thing I feel more put out by a goal being overturned by a offsides call from a coaches challenge then I EVER would by a goal being scored against us on a blown offsides call. The momentum of the game ground to halt by something.....unnatural.

 

Unnatural is the best word for it.  

Edited October 9, 2015 by Ottosmagic13

[Jsixspd]

I was thinking of that one Boston goal from what...the playoffs last year? Yeah. Sometimes refs just blow the call. Gotta live with that and move on with the game. 

 

Oh yeah.  I'm fine with that.   I wouldn't even label that offside as a "blown call" -  it was SO close -  what was it  - an inch?   There's a limit to human visual acuity. 

 

Fans need to be screaming bloody murder to the NHL office about that rule -  ridiculously reversed calls like that will ruin the game for most fans.  

[darksabre]

I just disagree...I want goal calls to be right. Was anyone saying "sometimes refs just blow the call" in '99? I know the situation was different, but I dunno...I want accuracy.

 

I'm torn between wanting accuracy and just wanting the game to flow nicely. I already get annoyed by Toronto reviews. Now we get to have them whenever the coaches want. It's like when you're having a nice morning commute and then some jerk piles it up on the 290 and everything screams to a stop. 

[SwampD]

BS.  Kane played hard every shift and was tough to play against.  I will never question his heart or his method. He strikes fear in the opposition. Jack will too in short order. 

I agree with everything you said except his method. I will question it. I mentioned it earlier in the game that he holds his line mates up at the blue line a lot. It's bad hockey. Imagine how good they could be if all three of them entered the zone with speed. He's still awesome and love to watch him. I just think he could be even awesomer.

[Claude Balls]

The offside challenge just sucks. It is possible to win the zone, hold the puck for 2 minutes in the zone,  change all 5 skates, take 11 shots, get a goal, and then have the goal reversed on the original offsides from the 2 minutes prior. It is a dumb rule.

 

Exactly. And if you want to be real picky it means that the clock should go back to the time of the offsides and every shot after the offsides shouldn't count. What if a penalty is called after a missed offsides call. Can that be reviewed to wipe out the penalty? Stupid rule.

[GoPre]

It was DISGUSTING!!!!   It didn't have the slightest effect on the outcome of the play - not a bit!  Even worse, play continued on for, what , another minute???   It should have to be challenged immediately or not at all.  And just by a coincidence, Buffalo takes it on the chin from some new rule.   At no time in NHL history would that goal have ever been waived off.  A travesty!!!!

 

I agree 110%. It only took two nights for the new bs rule to be exploited. Offsides by an inch had no impact on the goal. Ottawa took advantage of it. Already hoping it's removed from the game by next season. 

 

*I haven't seen the challenge by Babcock yet. 

[Brawndo]

16 Page GDT, nice job everyone

[qwksndmonster]

disclaimer: qwksndmonster: 1)hasn't read the thread yet. 2) is drunk.

 

Great game by Evander Kane. Best forward on the ice by far.  Nice 3rd period by Rasmus in the offensive zone.  Oh my god that Eichel snipe.

 

Get used to these kinds of games for October and November, our team is going to need some time to find chemistry.  Eichel and Kane didn't look good together.  Hot Daniel must agree because he kept changing their linemate. 1st: Reinhart. 2nd: Foligno (ugh). 3rd: Girgensons (warmer...).  Nobody was looking for Eichel as the outlet in the defensive zone.  In fact, our 5 on 5 gameplan with that line didn't seem to incorporate Eichel at all.  The other top line of Moulson-ROR-Ennis was inept in the offensive zone.  In fact, just inept.  They were a mess.

 

I would put ROR with Kane and Eichel with Moulson.  Those seem to be the most natural forward pairings.  I keep wanting to slam DB and I keep reminding myself: The team is inexperienced and still needs to build chemistry, don't blame Hot Daniel for everything.  The fact that he was willing to juggle the lines indicates to me that he's still trying to find what works with this roster.

 

In the first and second period, Weber and Franson regularly drew the Turris line. Whyyyyy?!?!?  Hot Daniel started matching up Colo and Pysyk against them in the third period.

 

After only seeing the coach's challenge in action for 1 game, I'm already more impressed by pro NHL replay watchers than I ever have been by their NFL equivalents.  Whomever caught that ticky tack offsides might've already bought Ottawa 2 points in the standings.

[Stoner]

Maybe I need to listen again. He just seemed to falter, and sink under the weight of the moment.

 

Perhaps equivocal is not the word I wanted.

Remember how he flubbed Grigorenko's first? I won't make an equivalence to the two moments, but Grigorenko was pretty hot stuff at the time, too. I hate myself for saying this, but maybe the Jeanneret moment we all want so desperately will be better left to the imagination. Meh, it's the first game for him too. What he needs is better hockey. I don't know how anyone can make sense of the hot mess that is 95% of games like that.

[X. Benedict]

I agree with everything you said except his method. I will question it. I mentioned it earlier in the game that he holds his line mates up at the blue line a lot. It's bad hockey. Imagine how good they could be if all three of them entered the zone with speed. He's still awesome and love to watch him. I just think he could be even awesomer.

New linemates. It happens. It takes time. Kane is flying out there. He's really fast. 

[WildCard]

Coaching reviews simply don't belong in a fast paced game like hockey. They already review questionable goals, other than that I really don't see a purpose for it

[TrueBlueGED]

I agree 110%. It only took two nights for the new bs rule to be exploited. Offsides by an inch had no impact on the goal. Ottawa took advantage of it. Already hoping it's removed from the game by next season. 

 

*I haven't seen the challenge by Babcock yet. 

 

I don't know how you can say this...the play should have been blown dead. Yea, it was close, but it was offside. Now if we can just get the league to start calling blatant interference penalties we'll be in business!

[Brawndo]

@BillHoppeNHL: Bylsma said Robin Lehner's injury isn't short-term. #Sabres

[WildCard]

@BillHoppeNHL: Bylsma said Robin Lehner's injury isn't short-term. #Sabres

Fuuuuucccckkkkkkk

[X. Benedict]

Coaching reviews simply don't belong in a fast paced game like hockey. They already review questionable goals, other than that I really don't see a purpose for it

One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls. 

If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain. 

[Weave]

One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls. 

If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain. 

 

Poor, poor Edmonton.

[Stoner]

I just disagree...I want goal calls to be right. Was anyone saying "sometimes refs just blow the call" in '99? I know the situation was different, but I dunno...I want accuracy.

Ya know that other thing you like? I can tie it into your attitude about reviews. Bow to math and technology. Suck as much life out of the game as you can. Imma go suck a smoke, eat a hot dog, do a line of crack and whack off to midget porn. Once the first resolution falls, the others are voided.

[Hoss]

Good third period. Rough first two periods but predictably so. This team won't hit its stride for some time, but we've already seen some flashes.

 

O'Reilly showed what I expected he would - good off the puck. And that's why it makes so much sense to have him in between Kane and Ennis.

Kane was awesome tonight. Effort all around the ice which was a little surprising. Maybe needs to look for the pass instead of shooting so much but not the end of the world having a guy that wants to score.

Eichel - nothing great in the first two periods but he really turned it on in the third. A few good scoring chances.

Franson - really worried about him defensively. A few times he looked like he had no clue how to defend. Very slow.

Risto - man oh man he makes some dumb plays behind his own net. Somebody needs to get him in the rink for a few hours a day every week and work on that.

Lehner - after the first shot he looked good but this injury looks bad. We may need to start thinking about acquiring another goalie instead of just a call up if this is a long-term injury.

[TrueBlueGED]

One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls. 

If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain. 

 

I feel like if they did it this way the captain would just be the middle man. Coach would tell him whether to challenge.

[darksabre]

Fuuuuucccckkkkkkk

 

This does more damage to my fantasy teams than it does to the Sabres.  :censored:

[TrueBlueGED]

Ya know that other thing you like? I can tie it into your attitude about reviews. Bow to math and technology. Suck as much life out of the game as you can. Imma go suck a smoke, eat a hot dog, do a line of crack and whack off to midget porn. Once the first resolution falls, the others are voided.

 

You're not wrong. On the first party, anyway. The second part of your post is wrong on many levels :lol:

[3putt]

One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls. 

If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain.

 

And definitely not from a nerd in the press box watching nothing but time lagged video. Me wholeheartedly agree.

[Stoner]

One thing I always believed about hockey is that the coach should not have a role in the outcome of the game beyond his line-calls. 

If there is a challenge it should come from the team captain. 

Would you have a problem with a challenge on more definitive offsides, Let's say the offside has to be within five seconds of the goal. I wouldn't. You're correcting a travesty. The NHL likes to tinker. I wouldn't be surprised if this rule gets tweaked like that, especially if a MFT gets screwed.