GDT: Buffalo at Minnesota, Sept. 21, 8pm

[Randall Flagg]

https://vine.co/v/ePg63hgbabJ

 

Eichel to Moulson

Edited September 22, 2015 by Randall Flagg

[Doohicksie]

https://twitter.com/AndyTWCNews/status/646164386147602432/video/1 

 

Here's the shorthanded goal.

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

 

[Randall Flagg]

Yeah not sure why that happened

 

https://vine.co/v/ePgwZFMYXHF

Eichel goal

Edited September 22, 2015 by Randall Flagg

[Doohicksie]

His hands are just SO FAST.

[WildCard]

That link for the shorty works

[Doohicksie]

No, no. Dig it:

 

Andrew Peters, as a colour guy, reminds me of Mike Robitaille. And I think he and Dunleavy sound great together.

 

I liked the pairing too; the only thing is Peters has to learn to keep quiet when Dunleavy is calling the play, he cut Dan off several times with little interjections.  (He's still too much of a fan; maybe he needs to mute his mic while the play is going.)

[WildCard]

Thanks for those videos btw Flagg, much appreciated

[Brawndo]

@BNHarrington: Bylsma was thrilled with Eichel's defensive game. Said it was best he's seen him away from puck in the 15 or so games they've been around

[WildCard]

@BNHarrington: Bylsma was thrilled with Eichel's defensive game. Said it was best he's seen him away from puck in the 15 or so games they've been around

To me the biggest thing with that is it sounds like hes coach-able. It sounds insignificant but a lot of players can be told something a million times and never really get it. Hopefully Eichels just a sponge.

Edited September 22, 2015 by WildCard

[SabresBillsFan]

@BNHarrington: Bylsma was thrilled with Eichel's defensive game. Said it was best he's seen him away from puck in the 15 or so games they've been around

The Kid is only going to get better in all areas of the game, I'm not worried since he's only a rookie. Same goes for Reinhart. These two are young and are going to make mistakes. But I like what I'm seeing from both.

I have a couple of questions?

Where does Larsson fit into this team. I'm just don't know if I'm sold on Legwand being that 4th center when Larsson can fill that role. I would much rather have a guy that plays hard in all 3 zones like Larsson rather than a 35 year old vet.

Guhle looks like he's impressing just wonder if he gets some regular season games and then sent back. Obvious his skating is nhl level.

It should be interesting to see what plays out.

[Taro T]

You're a grad assistant until Taro decides to promote you to grad non-assistant.

OK.  Will the Sabres win?

 

Will the next game be streamed?

 

Will Liger be promoted by Taro?

 

I'll have to tune in next time, since I was up at 4 freaking am today (check the start of this thread) and I am damned tired.

 

Love you all, grad assistants or otherwise.

 

--11

:huh:

 

Ain't he an assistant librarian at some (community?) college in GA?

 

Last time I checked, he wasn't in my chain of direct reports, so pretty sure he needs somebody else to bump him up to associate librarian. ;)

To me the biggest thing with that is it sounds like hes coach-able. It sounds insignificant but a lot of players can be told something a million times and never really get it. Hopefully Eichels just a sponge.

Eichel is ####ing special.  Can't wait to see him in real games.

[Doohicksie]

Where does Larsson fit into this team. I'm just don't know if I'm sold on Legwand being that 4th center when Larsson can fill that role. I would much rather have a guy that plays hard in all 3 zones like Larsson rather than a 35 year old vet.

Guhle looks like he's impressing just wonder if he gets some regular season games and then sent back. Obvious his skating is nhl level.

It should be interesting to see what plays out.

 

Larsson is the 13th forward, frequent scratch but will get his share of playing time.  There will be injuries, there will be healthy scratches, and it's great that we'll have Larsson ready to step in.  As the season wears on, Larsson takes over from Legwand.

 

Guhle will get a 3-5 game look-see.  They'll send him down, but he'll get more time toward the end of the year.

[Taro T]

The Kid is only going to get better in all areas of the game, I'm not worried since he's only a rookie. Same goes for Reinhart. These two are young and are going to make mistakes. But I like what I'm seeing from both.

I have a couple of questions?

Where does Larsson fit into this team. I'm just don't know if I'm sold on Legwand being that 4th center when Larsson can fill that role. I would much rather have a guy that plays hard in all 3 zones like Larsson rather than a 35 year old vet.

Guhle looks like he's impressing just wonder if he gets some regular season games and then sent back. Obvious his skating is nhl level.

It should be interesting to see what plays out.

I'd be surprised if Guhle gets a look on day 1 because the Sabres have 2 guys that they'd have to waive (3 counting Weber) to make room for him in the top 8.  He might get his 9 games if a player or 2 get hurt.

 

Larsson, imho, is a victim of the Sabres trying to have 2 rookie centers.  If Reinhart were to drop to Ra-cha-cha (very doubtful), Larsson would be centering the 3rd line.  But I don't see the Sabres only having 1 vet center (O'Reilly).  Eichel is a given and Reinhart is being given every chance to be the #3.  They won't put Larsson on Reinhart's wing because he's too young to help Sam in the zone (again IMHO) and I can't see them going with 3 of 4 C's with 2 years experience or less.

 

How did he look tonight?  He could beat out Legwand, but my gut feel is he's the odd man out until injury creates as spot for him on line 2 or 4.

[TrueBlueGED]

The Kid is only going to get better in all areas of the game, I'm not worried since he's only a rookie. Same goes for Reinhart. These two are young and are going to make mistakes. But I like what I'm seeing from both.

I have a couple of questions?

Where does Larsson fit into this team. I'm just don't know if I'm sold on Legwand being that 4th center when Larsson can fill that role. I would much rather have a guy that plays hard in all 3 zones like Larsson rather than a 35 year old vet.

Guhle looks like he's impressing just wonder if he gets some regular season games and then sent back. Obvious his skating is nhl level.

It should be interesting to see what plays out.

 

Long term he's on my 3rd line, be it wing or center. If they keep the centers as ROR, Eichel, and Reinhart, then he slots in nicely at 3rd line LW. I personally think that's a bit inefficient, and I'd simply move O'Reilly to wing (again, long term here) with Eichel and Reinhart manning the pivots in the top-6 with Larsson centering the 3rd. 

 

Short term it's a bit tougher to sift out. While I very much want to watch winning hockey this year, to me it's still essentially about fulfilling the long term plan. As such, I'd have Larsson on the 3rd line in place of McGinn (McGinn is probably a better play right now if healthy, but I'm not sure I envision him being on the team beyond this season, hence the bump down), who would bump Deslauriers or Foligno off the 4th line. Larsson supplanting Legwand on the 4th line seems like a reasonable play, but I think his talent would be wasted on the 4th. Unless Reinhart begins the year in Rochester, I don't think there's a clear spot for Larsson to be used to maximize his ability and development, and assuming he (being Reinhart) is ready, I'm sure not about to advocate sending him down for Larsson's sake. What I know is I want Larsson on this team long-term and I don't want to give him any real reason to bolt to Sweden after his contract expires. 

 

One other possibility is as the centerpiece of a logical trade for a young LHD in a similar numbers-game situation. I could get on board with that depending on the player, but I'm not in a particular hurry to jettison someone I view as the long-term 3C.

[Taro T]

Long term he's on my 3rd line, be it wing or center. If they keep the centers as ROR, Eichel, and Reinhart, then he slots in nicely at 3rd line LW. I personally think that's a bit inefficient, and I'd simply move O'Reilly to wing (again, long term here) with Eichel and Reinhart manning the pivots in the top-6 with Larsson centering the 3rd. 

 

Short term it's a bit tougher to sift out. While I very much want to watch winning hockey this year, to me it's still essentially about fulfilling the long term plan. As such, I'd have Larsson on the 3rd line in place of McGinn (McGinn is probably a better play right now if healthy, but I'm not sure I envision him being on the team beyond this season, hence the bump down), who would bump Deslauriers or Foligno off the 4th line. Larsson supplanting Legwand on the 4th line seems like a reasonable play, but I think his talent would be wasted on the 4th. Unless Reinhart begins the year in Rochester, I don't think there's a clear spot for Larsson to be used to maximize his ability and development, and assuming he (being Reinhart) is ready, I'm sure not about to advocate sending him down for Larsson's sake. What I know is I want Larsson on this team long-term and I don't want to give him any real reason to bolt to Sweden after his contract expires. 

 

One other possibility is as the centerpiece of a logical trade for a young LHD in a similar numbers-game situation. I could get on board with that depending on the player, but I'm not in a particular hurry to jettison someone I view as the long-term 3C.

LT, I could see him or Girgensons C on the 3rd line.  ST it's not there.

 

When the kids get some games under their belts, the top 6 includes O'Reilly, Kane, Ennis, Eichel, & Reinhart with either Girgensons, one of Fasching, Bailey, or Baptiste, or a trade/FA.  Then ideally, somebody has supplanted Zemgus on the top 2 lines and you've got Z and Larsson being the bulk of the 3rd line with Foligno, Deslaurier, or one of the 3 prospects that didn't make top 6 finishing it out.

 

This team could be very good in a couple of years if Lehner pans out and at least 1 of Pysyk or McCabe pans out.

 

But right now, to keep from being the Eulers, Larsson could find himself odd man out.  You can't put too much responsibility on a truckload of kids and unfortunately for him, he's still a kid with 2 kids with higher upsides looking to get developed.  I like the idea of putting Reinhart between McGinn and Gionta providing McGinn's back holds out.

 

I'm not too worried about Larsson bolting for Europe because there is a very logical explanation of how he fits in to the LT picture in Sabreland.  He's here now; if he wanted to be in Europe he'd be there now.  I expect he can see where this team is going and he'd want to be a part of it.  No way he's top 2 C, but he fits in LT either 3C or 2nd line winger.  (Jochen Hecht anyone?)

[Doohicksie]

(Jochen Hecht anyone?)

 

Exactly.  Not every player is top 6.  There are some phenomenal players who were bottom six and were very successful.  Jochen is a good comparison, but Stu Barnes also comes to mind, not to mention Kris Draper.  Grinders are a big part of any championship team, and I think Larsson is tenacious enough for that assignment.

[SabresBillsFan]

Exactly. Not every player is top 6. There are some phenomenal players who were bottom six and were very successful. Jochen is a good comparison, but Stu Barnes also comes to mind, not to mention Kris Draper. Grinders are a big part of any championship team, and I think Larsson is tenacious enough for that assignment.

That's why I would much rather have him then an aging Legwand. Plus isn't he effected by waivers if we try to send him down?

[Doohicksie]

I think so.  That's why I said 13th forward.

[SabresBillsFan]

I think so. That's why I said 13th forward.

If that's the case I would rather let Legwand go. Not saying he cant contribute to this team offensively but I feel Larsson would be much better long term.

[...]

Wow, you guys are really high on Larsson. I see the role y'all are slotting him into, and he's obviously not a top 6 guy, but either I missed stuff over the summer, or you folks are reading a lot into the final few weeks of last season.

 

I wonder if he sees himself in the grinder role long term, or if he thinks he can be more of a skill guy. We've been down that road of trying to force a player into a role he didn't want to accept.

[SabresBillsFan]

Wow, you guys are really high on Larsson. I see the role y'all are slotting him into, and he's obviously not a top 6 guy, but either I missed stuff over the summer, or you folks are reading a lot into the final few weeks of last season.

 

I wonder if he sees himself in the grinder role long term, or if he thinks he can be more of a skill guy. We've been down that road of trying to force a player into a role he didn't want to accept.

I just think he might be an upgrade over Legwand plus cheaper. Remember Legwand was a throw in with the trade.

[Huckleberry]

Yeah not sure why that happened

 

https://vine.co/v/ePgwZFMYXHF

Eichel goal

 

One of the reasons they got franson, we got speed up front and he can feed them that puck.

If that's the case I would rather let Legwand go. Not saying he cant contribute to this team offensively but I feel Larsson would be much better long term.

 

Its a long season, no reason to let anyone go.

[DirtDart]

I liked the pairing too; the only thing is Peters has to learn to keep quiet when Dunleavy is calling the play, he cut Dan off several times with little interjections. (He's still too much of a fan; maybe he needs to mute his mic while the play is going.)

I was saying the same to my wife. There is a time for him to talk. Dun, seemed almost annoyed.

I just think he might be an upgrade over Legwand plus cheaper. Remember Legwand was a throw in with the trade.

Exactly. He thinks he is a top 6, in reality a 4th line/top line AHL.

[X. Benedict]

What do you call these things? Vinelights?

 

https://vine.co/u/1032751615528316928

[wjag]

I remember being one of the critics of Reinhart last year during the preseason.  He did nothing.  I was looking for anything out of him (point-wise) to show he was ready.  Now fast forward to last night and the shiny new toy has an A and G (SHG and GWG).  Let's hope Reinhart is ready this year. The evidence suggests he is, but I want to see him find the net against NHL-level competition. The future sure looks brighter.