Sabres training camp 2015

[inkman]

Looks like lines to start camp:

 

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis

Moulson - Eichel - Girgensons

McGinn - Reinhart - Gionta

Deslauriers - Legwand - Foligno

Fantastic Friday

[That Aud Smell]

Not sure how the back-end will shape up, but that could be a playoff team.

[TrueBlueGED]

Looks like lines to start camp:

 

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis

Moulson - Eichel - Girgensons

McGinn - Reinhart - Gionta

Deslauriers - Legwand - Foligno

No Larsson? Time to overreact to one day and let my blood boil :angry:

[Marvelo]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I expect Moulson, Gionta and Gorges to be busts at this stage of the game. I know a super athlete who had microfracture surgery on his knee and he is not playing hockey anymore. It also might be time to get rid of Foligno, despite his dad and his many hometown boosters.

[Doohicksie]

Looks like lines to start camp:

 

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis

Moulson - Eichel - Girgensons

McGinn - Reinhart - Gionta

Deslauriers - Legwand - Foligno

 

Great googly moogly.

[darksabre]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I expect Moulson, Gionta and Gorges to be busts at this stage of the game. I know a super athlete who had microfracture surgery on his knee and he is not playing hockey anymore. It also might be time to get rid of Foligno, despite his dad and his many hometown boosters.

I wont fight you on any of those points. This is definitely a transition year where any of those four guys could wash out. 

[Rasmus_]

Looks like lines to start camp:

 

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis

Moulson - Eichel - Girgensons

McGinn - Reinhart - Gionta

Deslauriers - Legwand - Foligno

 

Now if we can somehow get Larsson instead of Legwand on the fourth line, that would be ideal!

I know it's not a popular opinion but I expect Moulson, Gionta and Gorges to be busts at this stage of the game. I know a super athlete who had microfracture surgery on his knee and he is not playing hockey anymore. It also might be time to get rid of Foligno, despite his dad and his many hometown boosters.

 

Gionta produced 13 points in the last 15 games.  He still has spark.  Moulson I've been disappointed with, but he has the right mindset. 

[LGR4GM]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I expect Moulson, Gionta and Gorges to be busts at this stage of the game. I know a super athlete who had microfracture surgery on his knee and he is not playing hockey anymore. It also might be time to get rid of Foligno, despite his dad and his many hometown boosters.

Then we have to get rid of Kane as well.  Kane had the exact same surgery which limited Foligno going into last season.

 

Why don't we see what we have before talking about guys being busts this season?

[Rasmus_]

Why would you get rid of a 23 year old who has intangibles to play in the bottom six.  To be frank, he was pushed up due to the lack of NHL talent before this season. He's a credible third liner, and an exceptional fourth line talent.  You build on that type of guy.  I would much rather have a Marcus Foligno than the Craig Adams etc dregs of the world.  He has a chance for 15 goals and plays well on the boards.  He also skates well!

Edited September 18, 2015 by TheCerebral1

[That Aud Smell]

Foligno in the bottom 6: Yes, please.

[Doohicksie]

I wont fight you on any of those points. This is definitely a transition year where any of those four guys could wash out. 

 

Any of them, but not all of them.  Also, although it's not fun to think about, there will probably be some injuries that we need to adjust to as well.

[That Aud Smell]

I know it's not a popular opinion but I expect Moulson, Gionta and Gorges to be busts at this stage of the game. I know a super athlete who had microfracture surgery on his knee and he is not playing hockey anymore. 

 

I share the concern with respect to Gorges. The other two, not so much.

[Doohicksie]

It's kind of neat to realize that we have more valid NHLers than positions available.  We've been on the other side of that for so long it's gonna take a while to get used to that.

[Marvelo]

Then we have to get rid of Kane as well.  Kane had the exact same surgery which limited Foligno going into last season.

 

Why don't we see what we have before talking about guys being busts this season?

 

I'm referring to Gorges microfracture surgery on his knee. That should probably finish him. I'm a Larsson guy...He's a digger and tough as nails plus he's healthy. Hamilton said he had an entitled attitude...I'm not sure of that...but I am excited enough by his sample size to give him a chance. I don't want to have him pushed out of the lineup by expensive non-producing imports or guys who have great physical resources like Foligno but have been asleep since his initial burst out of the gate. 

Now if we can somehow get Larsson instead of Legwand on the fourth line, that would be ideal!

 

Gionta produced 13 points in the last 15 games.  He still has spark.  Moulson I've been disappointed with, but he has the right mindset. 

 

I saw Gionta flipped on his head like a ragdoll and out for several months and I can see it happen again. It's not worth the risk because the guys he plays against are sometimes half his age and twice his size with insane mean streaks. Plus 13pts/15 games at garbage time isn't much to go on. I've been disappointed in Moulson for awhile too...he needs a Tavares to spoonfeed him because he is mainly a garbage collector with little else to offer.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Marvelo

[dudacek]

I'm bummed there's no Larsson on that starting forward unit but I guess it shows something when last year's first-line centre has been pushed that far down the roster. Mostly love the lines.

 

Don't get the Gionta hate. He's always been small. The guy is a pro and looked good after his injury. He may be declining, but he'll be fine on the third line.

 

Oh, and Moulson does have a Tavares to spoonfeed him.

 

Gorges Bogosian

Colaicovo Franson

Weber Pysk

 

Where's Risto?

[LGR4GM]

Yea, I just noticed Risto isn't on the list.

[Rasmus_]

Could it be flight delay?  He might have been in Finland?  He's definitely not pulling a Zaddy!

Edited September 18, 2015 by TheCerebral1

[LGR4GM]

Official Risto update coming this afternoon. He will miss today, nothing big according to John Vogl.

[Brawndo]

@kevinoDandC: The #Sabres say D Rasmus Ristolainen will miss 7-10 days with an upper body injury. He's not in the practice groups today.

[That Aud Smell]

^ 

 

Huh.

 

UBI before camp even starts?  :huh:

[spndnchz]

McCormick failed his physical too.

[darksabre]

^ 

 

Huh.

 

UBI before camp even starts?  :huh:

Training injuries do happen. It sucks, but they do. Especially with young guys who are always working extra hard during the summer to build strength. 

[WildCard]

@kevinoDandC: The #Sabres say D Rasmus Ristolainen will miss 7-10 days with an upper body injury. He's not in the practice groups today.

^ 

Huh.

UBI before camp even starts?  :huh:

Consider me equally confused on Risto.

Training injuries do happen. It sucks, but they do. Especially with young guys who are always working extra hard during the summer to build strength. 

A week sounds really minimal. I'm not confused on how it happened, but rather what it is that demands only a week when the preseason is so short.

[darksabre]

Consider me equally confused on Risto.

A week sounds really minimal. I'm not confused on how it happened, but rather what it is that demands only a week when the preseason is so short.

I'm not sure what you're asking. Would you like him to be more injured? 

[That Aud Smell]

Training injuries do happen. It sucks, but they do. Especially with young guys who are always working extra hard during the summer to build strength. 

 

Risto be all