Patrick Kane: [Updated] D.A. Decides Not to Prosecute; NHL Determines Claims "Unfounded"

[nfreeman]

I must say:  I'm a bit put off by him signing his name "Deacon."  It's a transparent attempt to leverage his religious position for professional gain, and it besmirches both his religious and professional groups.

[That Aud Smell]

I must say:  I'm a bit put off by him signing his name "Deacon."  It's a transparent attempt to leverage his religious position for professional gain, and it besmirches both his religious and professional groups.

 

it was a fookin' weird thing to do.

[Stoner]

it was a fookin' weird thing to do.

By the way, good sir, if I'm Pangloss, who is he? Should we all really be examining ourselves instead of posting here?

[That Aud Smell]

By the way, good sir, if I'm Pangloss, who is he? Should we all really be examining ourselves instead of posting here?

 

Haha. I'm not sure who he is. I didn't read his open letter in any detail. He's a Grade A Wingnut, is my best guess.

 

But you? You're our PAngloss (pAngloss).

Also, looking at it again. I love the idea that due process takes a natural course.

[TrueBlueGED]

Haha. I'm not sure who he is. I didn't read his open letter in any detail. He's a Grade A Wingnut, is my best guess.

 

But you? You're our PAngloss (pAngloss).

Also, looking at it again. I love the idea that due process takes a natural course.

 

p'Angloss, IMO.

[WildCard]

TIL Derek Rose is accused of drugging a girl and gang raping her with his friends

[Hank]

TIL Derek Rose is accused of drugging a girl and gang raping her with his friends

Did you read the complaint?

[WildCard]

Did you read the complaint?

It happened two years ago, she claims they drugged her, she went home alone after a friend was concerned, and then they came into her hour the next morning and raped her

[Hank]

It happened two years ago, she claims they drugged her, she went home alone after a friend was concerned, and then they came into her hour the next morning and raped her

Not exactly, read the complaint.

[LGR4GM]

Anything going on in here? How about you JJ?  any thoughts?

Edited September 29, 2015 by LGR4GM

[JJFIVEOH]

I'll pass. 

[WildCard]

I'll pass.

:D

[LGR4GM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNM3OjXCN34

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kelseypjones/these-college-women-reacted-to-stories-of-campus-sexual-assa#.wkdeAbYAN

[Eleven]

I'm sure freeman has a counter video.

 

That was not instructive in the least.

[LGR4GM]

I'm sure freeman has a counter video.

 

That was not instructive in the least.

just thought it was interesting

[That Aud Smell]

The screen cap of the linked video is prompting all manner of inappropriate rejoinders.

 

I will refrain.

[JJFIVEOH]

Dan Herbeck, Lou Michel and Tim Graham of the Buffalo News reported "sources said doubts have emerged about the woman's allegations and make criminal prosecution highly unlikely."

District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said he is "waiting for the investigation to be completed to [his] satisfaction and to confer with the assigned prosecutor, who is on her vacation six time zones away, before announcing anything further."

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2584179-patrick-kane-under-investigation-for-rape-latest-details-comments-reaction

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That stands to ruin a lot of narratives.

[JJFIVEOH]

For sure

[That Aud Smell]

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Due process is all anyone can ask or expect. Seems like it's been had here.

[Weave]

I'm curious if they'll go forward with a civil suit. 

[deluca67]

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Due process is all anyone can ask or expect. Seems like it's been had here.

Problem is a gross amount of sexual assaults and rapes don't get prosecuted. The longer the process goes the less likely the prosecution goes forward. It's don;t difficult to avoid or beat a rape or sexual assault charge, especially if you have money.

 

My hope in all of this is that this women's life hasn't been completely destroyed. There are some things in life you just can't move on from. Even if the prosecution were to move forward and end in a conviction it is less likely that this women would go on to live a reasonably normal life.  

[Eleven]

Problem is a gross amount of sexual assaults and rapes don't get prosecuted. The longer the process goes the less likely the prosecution goes forward. It's don;t difficult to avoid or beat a rape or sexual assault charge, especially if you have money.

 

My hope in all of this is that this women's life hasn't been completely destroyed. There are some things in life you just can't move on from. Even if the prosecution were to move forward and end in a conviction it is less likely that this women would go on to live a reasonably normal life.  

 

I have read and heard some things that suggest to me that it may not have happened.  (I will not post this information or send it in a PM to anyone.)  I have to conclude that if -- IF -- Sedita decides not even to proceed to a grand jury, that there's a real reason not to do so.

[JJFIVEOH]

Besides having high dollar lawyers, I don't see what having lots of money does for a criminal case. 

 

My hope in all this is that it doesn't affect the long term health of a professional sports organization, the reputation of one of its elite athletes, and the professional relationship with their sponsors. Because that's an awful lot on the line if he really didn't do anything wrong. 

[TrueBlueGED]

Besides having high dollar lawyers, I don't see what having lots of money does for a criminal case. 

 

My hope in all this is that it doesn't affect the long term health of a professional sports organization, the reputation of one of its elite athletes, and the professional relationship with their sponsors. Because that's an awful lot on the line if he really didn't do anything wrong. 

 

1) Quality of representation is a pretty huge advantage. Also, money allows for the defendant to fully exhaust appeals if convicted.

 

2) I don't see any reason why there would be permanent damage. Kobe Bryant, Ben Roethlisberger, Floyd Mayweather...just a few examples of stars who have faced accusations without any meaningful repercussions.

 

Edit: Further to #1, prosecutors have limited resources to work with, so they have to think long and hard about going through with a case that is going to be longer and more expensive than is typical. In general prosecutors are going to want a stronger case for more well-funded defendants because the "cost" of losing is higher. In a perfect world that wouldn't matter, but resources and potential costs very much work in tandem with likelihood of conviction for prosecutorial decision making.

Edited November 1, 2015 by TrueBlueGED