PromoTheRobot Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Listen to us. talking about playoffs. Isn't it the cutest?As if you have to be a super team to make the playoffs in the NHL. Merely not sucking makes you a contender. Edited July 3, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 Player expectations was the key part, not fan expectations. Players making the playoffs and expecting to without realizing the hard work needed. Quote
Taro T Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Player expectations was the key part, not fan expectations. Players making the playoffs and expecting to without realizing the hard work needed. Which players are he worried about? Kane has been a part of futility in Atl/Wpg. Ennis, Moulson, Girgensons, Ristolainen, Foligno, Weber have been through 2 years of this hound's breakfast. Gionta, Gorges, and Bogosian are vets that suffered through last year. Desauliers dealt w/ last year. Pysyk and Johnson couldn't even become a part of this debacle and Larsson had his own trials & tribulations. Is he worried about Legwand or McGinn thinking things come easy? Perhaps O'Reilly or Lehner? Thst's a laugh. That leaves Eichel (yeah, he'll have issues :rolleyes:), possibly a 4th liner or bottom pairing D ('cause life comes so easy in the NHL for those guys :rolleyes:), or your boy Reinhart. I'd expect Sam gets it as well. So, again, what problems are created by missing the playoffs? Edited July 3, 2015 by Taro T Quote
beerme1 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Posted July 3, 2015 You should start ignoring people now. LOL Yes I believe fanboyism will be very high and it's already started and it will be great. Have we, make that anyone in any sport ever had a reason to be so optimistic coming off the worst season ever in mankind as we know it today though? Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 The playoffs would be nice, though their success doesn't hinge on it. If they work their off and make it I see that as nothing bad. The only way making it to the playoffs could be bad is if they make it due to 25+ OT Wins/Losses/SOs thus have inflated points. Quote
LTS Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 I think it's fine if they miss the playoffs this year. In fact.. Murray is probably gearing up for that 9/10 spot and just missing. He'll probably laugh his butt off if the Sabres end up in the top 3 when that happens due to the changes. On the other hand.. if they squeak in at 7/8 then he'll be praised heavily. Either way.. win. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 For the first time in a long time a heroic run to tenth place will not be a bad thing this year Quote
beerme1 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Posted July 4, 2015 The playoffs would be nice, though their success doesn't hinge on it. If they work their ###### off and make it I see that as nothing bad. This a great point. And yet another reason I think they do well. They have a tough start and a tough finish. I think people are under selling the talent level the team has increased to. And the playoffs will be nice. They have to gel quickly and get off to a decent start. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 John Shannon would be better not opening his mouth. Quote
bunomatic Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 Just my 2 cents but the goal should always be to make the playoffs. Without fail. The idea of a culture shift is to instil a winning culture whereby the players know from the outset that that is the goal of the season. Make the playoffs then make some noise. Anything less is failure. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Just my 2 cents but the goal should always be to make the playoffs. Remind me again, were you onboard with the tank? Edited July 4, 2015 by Robins Egg Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 Remind me again, were you onboard with the tank?Remind me again, we're you cool with Dylan Strom or Noah Hanafin? Quote
smj Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) At this point if they don't make the playoffs or come very, very close it will mean Murray missed on some important decisions like Lehner and ROR and the young players need a lot more time to develop. While it would be nice to have one more shot at the lottery and a real high pick if we finish poorly enough to have a real chance at an early pick I think it means too many things have gone wrong this year to root for that in any way. Why would having high expectations be a bad thing? That's what every good team lives with every year. Edited July 4, 2015 by smj Quote
bunomatic Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 Remind me again, were you onboard with the tank? I was 100 % for the teardown. It is a realistic goal now that we are into the build part of the tank. 100 % try to make the playoffs. I'm not saying GMTM should forget the longview and sell assets to get Rick Nash at the deadline thinking he'll get us in. I'm saying the team as its constituted should have the message from management that we are trying to make the playoffs as our goal. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) I was 100 % for the teardown. It is a realistic goal now that we are into the build part of the tank. 100 % try to make the playoffs. So you meant going forward that should be the goal, not that every team always should try to make the playoffs. Remind me again, we're you cool with Dylan Strom or Noah Hanafin? Not sure how that's relevant. I wasn't arguing with bunomatic, just trying to clarify what he said. Edited July 4, 2015 by Robins Egg Quote
beerme1 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Posted July 4, 2015 At this point if they don't make the playoffs or come very, very close it will mean Murray missed on some important decisions like Lehner and ROR and the young players need a lot more time to develop. While it would be nice to have one more shot at the lottery and a real high pick if we finish poorly enough to have a real chance at an early pick I think it means too many things have gone wrong this year to root for that in any way. Why would having high expectations be a bad thing? That's what every good team lives with every year. This is a great post but with a avatar that doesn't fit in the picture you paint. Please fix self. You're bang on point! If Lehners a bust (no) and ROR becomes Timmay, God help us all. But your comment "why would having high expectations be a bad thing" Is exactly the point. Last year or year before there were no delusions. We all knew we we're going to bad. Think of the players we've rolled through here the last couple of years compared to who we are rolling with next season and beyond. YA! Quote
bunomatic Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 So you meant going forward that should be the goal, not that every team always should try to make the playoffs. Not sure how that's relevant. I wasn't arguing with bunomatic, just trying to clarify what he said. Yeah I should have been clearer on that. Going forward for sure. It's all about a winning culture and trying to instil that mindset. Sure there'll be growing pains but ... Quote
Brawndo Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 Another perspective http://www.tsn.ca/are-the-sabres-now-a-playoff-team-1.325170 Quote
nobody Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 I'm calling it now - 101 points and the Sabres make the conference finals. I'll decide if they make the Cup finals once we see what final moves GMTM does. Quote
wjag Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 I'm calling it now - 101 points and the Sabres make the conference finals. I'll decide if they make the Cup finals once we see what final moves GMTM does. :o Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 Shannon's statement is about as dumb as they come. This team needs to start developing a winning culture ASAP, and the sooner it starts the better. Quote
Robviously Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 John Shannon may be overthinking this.... Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 This is a great post but with a ###### avatar that doesn't fit in the picture you paint. Please fix self. You're bang on point! If Lehners a bust (no) and ROR becomes Timmay, God help us all. But your comment "why would having high expectations be a bad thing" Is exactly the point. Last year or year before there were no delusions. We all knew we we're going to bad. Think of the players we've rolled through here the last couple of years compared to who we are rolling with next season and beyond. ###### YA! Ryan O'Reilly will be fine. If they miss the playoffs, it is because of Lehner. Another perspective http://www.tsn.ca/are-the-sabres-now-a-playoff-team-1.325170 Yup, still love him Murray would only say the Sabres got a little better. “I’ll let him put his balls on the line for that,” Murray quipped of Bylsma’s opinion, cackling. Quote
X. Benedict Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 John Shannon may be overthinking this.... Who is John Shannon again? Quote
beerme1 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Posted July 4, 2015 Another perspective http://www.tsn.ca/are-the-sabres-now-a-playoff-team-1.325170 Awesome stuff! Thanks for posting it. Quote
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