LGR4GM Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Posted July 5, 2015 The league is not coming after us they approved the contract. It makes ROR buyout proof and the league really doesn't care about that. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 For anyone complaining about this.....seriously? Are you crazy? We just acquired a 24 year old player who is capable of winning the Selke trophy. He led the entire NHL in takeaways over the last 2 seasons & already has a Lady Byng. Whenever he has been given more responsibility....he has thrived. Most important is that O'Reilly can eat top minutes, win important draws, take away the other team's best player &&& take pressure off Eichel & Reinhart. The value of that cannot be understated. It could be the reason why the Oilers young players have failed to develop properly. Ideally it would be 7 X 7 for the contract but honestly for an extra 500k...who cares. We gave up a player who could be out of the league within 2 years, an enigmatic Zadorov who has plenty of potential but may not have the hockey sense to develop. Compher had no place in this lineup. McGinn can fill in on your 2nd line and you won't miss a beat. Getting this done ASAP is huge for the atmosphere around the team.It sends a message league wide that The Buffalo Sabres will pay to keep talent. Quote
nucci Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 For anyone complaining about this.....seriously? Are you crazy? We just acquired a 24 year old player who is capable of winning the Selke trophy. He led the entire NHL in takeaways over the last 2 seasons & already has a Lady Byng. Whenever he has been given more responsibility....he has thrived. Most important is that O'Reilly can eat top minutes, win important draws, take away the other team's best player &&& take pressure off Eichel & Reinhart. The value of that cannot be understated. It could be the reason why the Oilers young players have failed to develop properly. Ideally it would be 7 X 7 for the contract but honestly for an extra 500k...who cares. We gave up a player who could be out of the league within 2 years, an enigmatic Zadorov who has plenty of potential but may not have the hockey sense to develop. Compher had no place in this lineup. McGinn can fill in on your 2nd line and you won't miss a beat. Getting this done ASAP is huge for the atmosphere around the team. It sends a message league wide that The Buffalo Sabres will pay to keep talent. Well said but I have a question...... why is there a Lady Byng award in hockey? Just doesn't seem to fit Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 For anyone complaining about this.....seriously? Are you crazy? We just acquired a 24 year old player who is capable of winning the Selke trophy. He led the entire NHL in takeaways over the last 2 seasons & already has a Lady Byng. Whenever he has been given more responsibility....he has thrived. Most important is that O'Reilly can eat top minutes, win important draws, take away the other team's best player &&& take pressure off Eichel & Reinhart. The value of that cannot be understated. It could be the reason why the Oilers young players have failed to develop properly. Ideally it would be 7 X 7 for the contract but honestly for an extra 500k...who cares. We gave up a player who could be out of the league within 2 years, an enigmatic Zadorov who has plenty of potential but may not have the hockey sense to develop. Compher had no place in this lineup. McGinn can fill in on your 2nd line and you won't miss a beat. Getting this done ASAP is huge for the atmosphere around the team. It sends a message league wide that The Buffalo Sabres will pay to keep talent. Great points, I agree with so much of this. I guess I won't be happy until I see results on the ice. Your arguments have made me feel better about this though :) Quote
Robviously Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) For anyone complaining about this.....seriously? Are you crazy? We just acquired a 24 year old player who is capable of winning the Selke trophy. He led the entire NHL in takeaways over the last 2 seasons & already has a Lady Byng. Whenever he has been given more responsibility....he has thrived. Most important is that O'Reilly can eat top minutes, win important draws, take away the other team's best player &&& take pressure off Eichel & Reinhart. The value of that cannot be understated. It could be the reason why the Oilers young players have failed to develop properly. Ideally it would be 7 X 7 for the contract but honestly for an extra 500k...who cares. We gave up a player who could be out of the league within 2 years, an enigmatic Zadorov who has plenty of potential but may not have the hockey sense to develop. Compher had no place in this lineup. McGinn can fill in on your 2nd line and you won't miss a beat. Getting this done ASAP is huge for the atmosphere around the team. It sends a message league wide that The Buffalo Sabres will pay to keep talent. Acquiring O'Reilly, especially at the price we did, is BY FAR Murray's best move. It's an acquisition that completely remakes our team and sets up Eichel and Reinhart for success moving forward. The contract extension is expensive but if you're a Sabres fan who lived through the Peca, Drury, and Briere debacles, it feels like a huge win. Edited July 6, 2015 by Robviously Quote
WildCard Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Acquiring O'Reilly, especially at the price we did, is BY FAR Murray's best move. It's an acquisition that completely remakes our team and sets up Eichel and Reinhart for success moving forward. The contract extension is expensive but if you're a Sabres fan who lived through the Peca, Drury, and Briere debacles, it feels like a huge win. Tanking is by far Murray's best move, IMO, though that may be a topic we've thoroughly beaten to death. Tank aside, they actually did manage to get O'Reilly for cheaper than I anticipated, albeit 500k cheaper, and if he turns out to be the next Drury or Brier, I chalk it up as a major win. Also, as you and others have mentioned, his biggest impact on this team may never be quantitatively measured or even perhaps appreciated: allowing Reinhart and Eichel more time and less pressure to develop properly. Edited July 6, 2015 by WildCard Quote
Rasmus_ Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 Sweet, and we get to see Eichel in development camp this week. I might be going Tuesday. Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 If im an colorado fan i'd seriously start thinking about where my team is heading. soderberg + comeau = O'Reilly's contract. Quote
Sabel79 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 If im an colorado fan i'd seriously start thinking about where my team is heading. soderberg + comeau = O'Reilly's contract. Agreed. If you're in the Denver media you're writing hit pieces about ROR to make yourself feel better. http://www.denverpost.com/frei/ci_28437618/terry-frei-buffalo-is-ryan-oreillys-pay-pal?source=rss Quote
Robviously Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 Tanking is by far Murray's best move, IMO, though that may be a topic we've thoroughly beaten to death. Tank aside, they actually did manage to get O'Reilly for cheaper than I anticipated, albeit 500k cheaper, and if he turns out to be the next Drury or Brier, I chalk it up as a major win. Also, as you and others have mentioned, his biggest impact on this team may never be quantitatively measured or even perhaps appreciated: allowing Reinhart and Eichel more time and less pressure to develop properly. He didn't start the Tank, but I definitely think actively choosing not to stop the Tank was his best decision. It would have been tempting as a new GM to instantly make some moves to get the team out of the basement to prove you could make them better. In terms of "moves" (i.e. trades and signings), I think O'Reilly is hands-down his best. In terms of decisions, not stopping the Tank is his best for sure. Quote
inkman Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 Agreed. If you're in the Denver media you're writing hit pieces about ROR to make yourself feel better. http://www.denverpost.com/frei/ci_28437618/terry-frei-buffalo-is-ryan-oreillys-pay-pal?source=rss That piece didn't really dissuade me from liking the O'Reilly signing, if anything it made me more appreciative. Quote
WildCard Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 He didn't start the Tank, but I definitely think actively choosing not to stop the Tank was his best decision. It would have been tempting as a new GM to instantly make some moves to get the team out of the basement to prove you could make them better. In terms of "moves" (i.e. trades and signings), I think O'Reilly is hands-down his best. In terms of decisions, not stopping the Tank is his best for sure. No arguments here, well said. Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 That piece didn't really dissuade me from liking the O'Reilly signing, if anything it made me more appreciative. Same here. Not sure what the bad attitude was all about Quote
z-man Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 That piece didn't really dissuade me from liking the O'Reilly signing, if anything it made me more appreciative. When I first read it, I didn't look at the source, and thought that one of the Buffalo News hatchet men was already on O'Reilly's case. Quote
WildCard Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I believe I have finally found the perfect clip for the O'Reilly debate...or the Tank debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcaw3P0szk Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Is/Has ROR been in Buffalo since contract was announced? Very surprised the Sabres haven't trotted him out in front of the media? Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 He'll have his time. Let him enjoy his summer. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Might be waiting until TM is satisified with the UFA signings to bring them all in for a press conference. Still waiting for Oduya, et al. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Might be waiting until TM is satisified with the UFA signings to bring them all in for a press conference. Still waiting for Oduya, et al. Nah, I don't think that's it. It's the time for prospects. Quote
wjag Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Nah, I don't think that's it. It's the time for prospects. That's my take too. The buzz would be lost in the buzz. That is a separately choreographed event. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Yep. The infusion of this much talent in such a short period of time is unprecedented for this team. Quote
woods-racer Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Yep. The infusion of this much talent in such a short period of time is unprecedented for this team. This is very true, and the Sabres as an organization seem to be going about the PR of it all very well considering it wasn't that long ago the debacle of Hasek's tribute was shown to us. It just seems inevitable that at some point they are going to have some sort of PR brain fart, or maybe it's just me? Quote
wjag Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 This is very true, and the Sabres as an organization seem to be going about the PR of it all very well considering it wasn't that long ago the debacle of Hasek's tribute was shown to us. It just seems inevitable that at some point they are going to have some sort of PR brain fart, or maybe it's just me? We are not that far removed from Pat LaLa Quote
WildCard Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Matthew Coller does a collection of gifs to highlight what makes O'Reilly so special. TBH I think it's a really poor analysis: nothing that really exemplifies his game is shown here, but here it is FWIW http://www.wgr550.com/Ryan-O-Reilly-is-really-good-An-analysis-in-5-Vine/21718267 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Matthew Coller does a collection of gifs to highlight what makes O'Reilly so special. TBH I think it's a really poor analysis: nothing that really exemplifies his game is shown here, but here it is FWIW http://www.wgr550.com/Ryan-O-Reilly-is-really-good-An-analysis-in-5-Vine/21718267 Coller is good with the stats, not so good, it appears, with the film (such as it is in this piece). Seriously - weren't like 3 of the clips taken from a single shift? (With another just being a shootout funsie.) Quote
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