Eleven Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 white. Zfg That was pretty awesome. I posted a link with a gif in the draft thread. Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I hated the 21 for goalie, but would have been okay with 21 for O'Rielly, and 31 for goalie, in the end I'm delighted. You always have to see the totality of the day, and yesterday was a great day. Quote
wjag Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I hated the 21 for goalie, but would have been okay with 21 for O'Rielly, and 31 for goalie, in the end I'm delighted. You always have to see the totality of the day, and yesterday was a great ###### day. I agree.. Yesterday was a game changer. Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Carolina is getting Lack from Vancouver for a 3rd this year and a 7th next year. Makes the Lehner trade sting a bit more. Quote
wjag Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Carolina is getting Lack from Vancouver for a 3rd this year and a 7th next year. Makes the Lehner trade sting a bit more. That's remarkably cheap.. Quote
Eleven Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Carolina is getting Lack from Vancouver for a 3rd this year and a 7th next year. Makes the Lehner trade sting a bit more. That was my original thought, too. It's ok if Murray paid a little bit of a premium for "his guy" though. I still look at it as if the team drafted an NHL-ready goalie with the 21st pick. Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 That's remarkably cheap.. Practically free compared to the price the Sabres paid. Lack actually will make less than Lehner this year. Quote
sabresouth Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I hated the 21 for goalie, but would have been okay with 21 for O'Rielly, and 31 for goalie, in the end I'm delighted. You always have to see the totality of the day, and yesterday was a great ###### day. 100% agree X. Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 That was my original thought, too. It's ok if Murray paid a little bit of a premium for "his guy" though. I still look at it as if the team drafted an NHL-ready goalie with the 21st pick. They could have "drafted" a better "NHL-ready goalie" for apparently a fraction of the price. Being "his guy" is what drove the price up for Lehner into the ridiculous IMO, Quote
Eleven Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) They could have "drafted" a better "NHL-ready goalie" for apparently a fraction of the price. Being "his guy" is what drove the price up for Lehner into the ridiculous IMO, Yeah, that's my point. Except I don't think it entered the realm of "the ridiculous." Edited June 27, 2015 by Eleven Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Yeah, that's my point. Except I don't think it entered the realm of "the ridiculous." If Lack only garners a 3rd and a 7th, #21 is ridiculous. Quote
Eleven Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) If Lack only garners a 3rd and a 7th, #21 is ridiculous. Someone else getting something nice doesn't make my life any worse, you know? I actually think the Lack deal is the ridiculous one. (For Vancouver.) Edited June 27, 2015 by Eleven Quote
Trettioåtta Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Sounds like Lehner's Dad was an awful father. But he made Lundqvist great, so let's hope Lehner will be great Quote
SDS Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 If Lack only garners a 3rd and a 7th, #21 is ridiculous. Although it could be said that wins and losses are the only thing that matters – you are failing to account that perhaps there is an attitude or a locker room presence that Murray maybe factoring in. Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Someone else getting something nice doesn't make my life any worse, you know? I actually think the Lack deal is the ridiculous one. (For Vancouver.) If you buy a brand new car for $21,000 and your neighbor buys a newer year/model car a day later for $3,700 it wouldn't bother you? Edited June 27, 2015 by DeLuca1967 Quote
wjag Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Although it could be said that wins and losses are the only thing that matters – you are failing to account that perhaps there is an attitude or a locker room presence that Murray maybe factoring in. The part that will always elude us fans are the intangibles. The things we can't see.. Edited June 27, 2015 by wjag Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Although it could be said that wins and losses are the only thing that matters – you are failing to account that perhaps there is an attitude or a locker room presence that Murray maybe factoring in. Locker room presence? Didn't Murray just say Lehner's game was effected by not being the #1 goalie? Isn't that pouting? Is that a strong locker room presence? Quote
Eleven Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) If you buy a brand new car for $21,000 and your neighbor buys a newer year/model car a day later for $3,700 it wouldn't bother you? Congrats to my neighbor for swindling someone. It doesn't mean I got a bad deal. Edited June 27, 2015 by Eleven Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Lehner is younger and has more years of favorable contracts left, as compared to Lack. That's another reason the price was higher. I'm so over this, after initially being Chicken Little about it (which was fun, actually - I felt like a NY Jets fan). Quote
Trettioåtta Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Lack is a ufa after this year and 27 years old. Lehner is only 23, has two more years on his contract and is still an RFA after that year. Quote
Hoss Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 If you buy a brand new car for $21,000 and your neighbor buys a newer year/model car a day later for $3,700 it wouldn't bother you? Lack isn't "newer." He's four years older. Less control. They bought a reliable sedan with only a few features and gadgets. We bought a brand new hybrid with plenty of features to explore and unlock. Of course we could both end up flipping them. Quote
wjag Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Lack is a ufa after this year and 27 years old. Lehner is only 23, has two more years on his contract and is still an RFA after that year. All very relevant and salient points in the equation. Quote
nucci Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 And Samsonov goes @ 22 to Washington. He would have been there for Buffalo. and instead we have a starting goalie for next season. Quote
deluca67 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Lack is a ufa after this year and 27 years old. Lehner is only 23, has two more years on his contract and is still an RFA after that year. Lack is also the better goaltender. Looking at what Murray has built on the forward ranks, Lack would have given the Sabres a better chance to do some serious winning. IMO, we will likely still be looking for a goaltender over the next few years. I have a feeling it is going to mirror what's going on with the Bills and their search for a QB. At this point Lehner is equivalent to Manual. Edited June 27, 2015 by DeLuca1967 Quote
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