Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 http://penguins.nhl.com/club/m_news.htm?id=870739 Maata signed to extension by Pens 6 years 4.083 AAV. Should be a good starting point for Risto
Hoss Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 http://penguins.nhl.com/club/m_news.htm?id=870739 Maata signed to extension by Pens 6 years 4.083 AAV. Should be a good starting point for Risto Definitely. If we could do 6x$4.5m for Risto it would help us immensely down the line.
Rasmus_ Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Definitely. If we could do 6x$4.5m for Risto it would help us immensely down the line. If Ristolainen signs for 4.5 over 6 or 7, I think we should personally all donate a dollar to that for a signing bonus. That would be so under the general price for his type of ability.
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Here are some comparable to Maata's New Deal from General Fanager A few comparables to Maatta 6 yrs @ $4.083M: Brodin: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Larsson: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Martinez: 6 yrs @ $4M Carlson: 6 yrs @ $3.966M Risto 6yrs @4.5 sounds about right.
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Retweeted Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie): $3.7M AAV on Coburn's three year extension in TB.
Rasmus_ Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Here are some comparable to Maata's New Deal from General Fanager A few comparables to Maatta 6 yrs @ $4.083M: Brodin: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Larsson: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Martinez: 6 yrs @ $4M Carlson: 6 yrs @ $3.966M Risto 6yrs @4.5 sounds about right. I forgot about Carlson's! Wow, now that's a great comparison.
TrueBlueGED Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Here are some comparable to Maata's New Deal from General Fanager A few comparables to Maatta 6 yrs @ $4.083M: Brodin: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Larsson: 6 yrs @ $4.166M Martinez: 6 yrs @ $4M Carlson: 6 yrs @ $3.966M Risto 6yrs @4.5 sounds about right. I forgot about Carlson's! Wow, now that's a great comparison. Thing is, those guys hadn't broken out offensively when those contracts were signed. Brodin had a 17 point season riding shotgun to Suter, Carlson had a 32 point season, Martinez 22 points, and Larsson 24. Risto is currently at 35 with 21 games to go--he's almost certainly hitting 40, and could conceivably get to the mid-upper 40s. All while playing 25 minutes per game as the clear #1D. As a result, I think Risto's contract is going to be well above any of these guys.
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Per Renaud Lavoie #canadiens Carey Price will practice with equipment this afternoon. #tvasports
Rasmus_ Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Per Renaud Lavoie #canadiens Carey Price will practice with equipment this afternoon. #tvasports Hmmm, interesting. I still see it a lost season for Montreal. But, he has to be pissed.
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Thing is, those guys hadn't broken out offensively when those contracts were signed. Brodin had a 17 point season riding shotgun to Suter, Carlson had a 32 point season, Martinez 22 points, and Larsson 24. Risto is currently at 35 with 21 games to go--he's almost certainly hitting 40, and could conceivably get to the mid-upper 40s. All while playing 25 minutes per game as the clear #1D. As a result, I think Risto's contract is going to be well above any of these guys. What are you thinking for a price? 6yrs@ 5.5/6 AAV?
TrueBlueGED Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 What are you thinking for a price? 6yrs@ 5.5/6 AAV? I was thinking 6 would be the floor, and could be up to $7.5 or so. But, he has slowed down offensively and has looked shaky on D for a month or two, so that ceiling has probably come down unless he blows up the rest of the year. Around $6 million, give or take 500k, sounds about right.
Hoss Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Thing is, those guys hadn't broken out offensively when those contracts were signed. Brodin had a 17 point season riding shotgun to Suter, Carlson had a 32 point season, Martinez 22 points, and Larsson 24. Risto is currently at 35 with 21 games to go--he's almost certainly hitting 40, and could conceivably get to the mid-upper 40s. All while playing 25 minutes per game as the clear #1D. As a result, I think Risto's contract is going to be well above any of these guys. Erik Karlsson had a 78-point season and a 45-point season before signing a deal at 7x$6.5M. Risto should fall in between Maatta and Karlsson but closer to Maatta.
TrueBlueGED Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Erik Karlsson had a 78-point season and a 45-point season before signing a deal at 7x$6.5M. Risto should fall in between Maatta and Karlsson but closer to Maatta. Well, if you account for cap inflation from when Karlsson signed to next season, "closer to Maatta" is still around the $5.5 million mark. Hey, I hope you're right as I'd be ecstatic to get him at $4.5-5, I just think he'll come in over that.
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Well, if you account for cap inflation from when Karlsson signed to next season, "closer to Maatta" is still around the $5.5 million mark. Hey, I hope you're right as I'd be ecstatic to get him at $4.5-5, I just think he'll come in over that. 5.5 is Duncan Keith's AAV until 2021, I would be ecstatic if Risto signed for that AAV
LGR4GM Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Posted February 26, 2016 5.5 is Duncan Keith's AAV until 2021, I would be ecstatic if Risto signed for that AAV If Risto will sign for 5.5 I think we should def do it. I am not sold he will be a true #1 elite defender but I think he has the potential. I think this year we are seeing the disadvantage of playing him 30mins night and also giving him a subpar partner (compared to his skills). Next year though, I want stability from him.
Eleven Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Welcome back Liger! Was going to put this in the politics thread, but it's just too good to bury there. There is a conspiracy theorist who believes that Rand Paul is actually Wayne Gretzky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfnEBkE5cFg
WildCard Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 If Risto will sign for 5.5 I think we should def do it. I am not sold he will be a true #1 elite defender but I think he has the potential. I think this year we are seeing the disadvantage of playing him 30mins night and also giving him a subpar partner (compared to his skills). Next year though, I want stability from him. I would do 5.5 all day for Risto. That's the price of a mid-pairing guy and at worst we can safely say Risto will be a #2 on the top pair. Oh, and.... :beer: :beer:
inkman Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 I would do 5.5 all day for Risto. That's the price of a mid-pairing guy and at worst we can safely say Risto will be a #2 on the top pair. Oh, and.... :beer: :beer: I forgot how terrible mase was at rapping. Still better than Drake but that isn't saying much.
darksabre Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I can't believe tonight's Colorado/Detroit alumni game isn't on an NBC station or at least Gamecenter. I would kill to watch this game on tv.
Weave Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I can't believe tonight's Colorado/Detroit alumni game isn't on an NBC station or at least Gamecenter. I would kill to watch this game on tv. I'm pretty sure Lemieux wont get his face beat in during this game.
darksabre Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I'm pretty sure Lemieux wont get his face beat in during this game. But what if he does?! Who wouldn't want to see that?! I'm biased. This is the great rivalry of my childhood. I adored that Colorado team.
Weave Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 But what if he does?! Who wouldn't want to see that?! I'm biased. This is the great rivalry of my childhood. I adored that Colorado team. Hated Colorado. Fecking tankers. ;)
dudacek Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Risto at 5/5 seemed like a pipe dream. Thanks for giving me hope it's actually ballpark. -------- Cowen on waivers. Not a fan, but anyone think Tim might be? Edited February 27, 2016 by dudacek
TrueBlueGED Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 Risto at 5/5 seemed like a pipe dream. Thanks for giving me hope it's actually ballpark. -------- Cowen on waivers. Not a fan, but anyone think Tim might be? I sure hope not, he's Mike Weber only worse by a fair margin.
Thorner Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) I can't believe tonight's Colorado/Detroit alumni game isn't on an NBC station or at least Gamecenter. I would kill to watch this game on tv. I'm watching it on tv right now, good game so far. So many legends. Rooted for the Avs during the rivalry too. Sakic still has a wicked shot. Nice goal. Roy looks good. Shanahan looks good too. Forsberg looks like he could play in the NHL still. Edited February 27, 2016 by Thorny
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