Weave Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 He ain't heavy, he's my center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Why is Zemgus in the skills competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Why is Zemgus in the skills competition? Sure it's not last years you are watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Sure it's not last years you are watching? I think it must have been. Would have explained a lot! Like why Nick Foligno was a captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Four Predators in this game, makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I'm siding with 3putt on ROR. ROR does not play a heavy or physical game. His game is more tenacious and courageous in style, with higher than average hockey IQ and wits. Â Just because he's moving around everywhere and on players, doesn't make it physical like the label is typically used. E. Kane has a physical game. Foligno has a physical game. ROR does not bring anything like that. And that's okay, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 This is purely semantics, but for me physical =/= heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 This is purely semantics, but for me physical =/= heavy. I don't think it's semantics at all, I think there's a huge difference. One can play physical without throwing body checks. Â 3putt, I just can't get past your "avoids contact like the plague" language. It simply isn't true at all. No, he doesn't throw a lot of checks, but that has nothing to do with physically engaging, which he does as willingly as anyone else. I'll agree he doesn't play a heavy game, but that's quite different from your original language IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Eichel's wraparound goal was a heavy play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Eichel's wraparound goal was a heavy play. Agree entirely. That body lean he put on Cowan to set it up was manly. Â GO SABRES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I don't think it's semantics at all, I think there's a huge difference. One can play physical without throwing body checks. 3putt, I just can't get past your "avoids contact like the plague" language. It simply isn't true at all. No, he doesn't throw a lot of checks, but that has nothing to do with physically engaging, which he does as willingly as anyone else. I'll agree he doesn't play a heavy game, but that's quite different from your original language IMO. Often times the play requires the first man to take the body of the puck carrier while a teammate picks up the loose puck. ROR seldom does this. Rather, he will engage in a stick battle to retrieve possession. He is effective, but that does not force competent puck carriers to rush a pass or force a dump. Eliminating a puck carrier to allow your teammate to collect it creates a numbers advantage and space. His first instinct is stick check. I differentiate stick battles, which are more skill dependent, from body checks and don't think of them as engaging in contact. Does ROR pressure? Yes. Does he force turnovers? Yes. Is he effective? Yes. Is he physical? In my opinion, no. I responded to the assertion that Jack wasn't physical. He is. He seeks contact. Does he reach? Yes. But I believe some of it comes from his inexperience. I hope he does it less going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Bettman has signed a contract extension through 2022, per every hockey reporter on Twitter. Goodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Bettman has signed a contract extension through 2022, per every hockey reporter on Twitter. Goodie.And here I was, enjoying my Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Often times the play requires the first man to take the body of the puck carrier while a teammate picks up the loose puck. ROR seldom does this. Rather, he will engage in a stick battle to retrieve possession. He is effective, but that does not force competent puck carriers to rush a pass or force a dump. Eliminating a puck carrier to allow your teammate to collect it creates a numbers advantage and space. His first instinct is stick check. I differentiate stick battles, which are more skill dependent, from body checks and don't think of them as engaging in contact. Does ROR pressure? Yes. Does he force turnovers? Yes. Is he effective? Yes. Is he physical? In my opinion, no. I responded to the assertion that Jack wasn't physical. He is. He seeks contact. Does he reach? Yes. But I believe some of it comes from his inexperience. I hope he does it less going forward.  The big difference I perceive is, ROR gets in tight to make those plays. He may not be initiating contact, but he is in where contact occurs. All too often Eichel is doing it from stick length away. It is a much more effective play done in where contact is more likely. to be honest, I get the impression that young Jack is still intimidated by NHL contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I don't. Especially lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Bettman has signed a contract extension through 2022, per every hockey reporter on Twitter. Goodie. Bosses be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 The big difference I perceive is, ROR gets in tight to make those plays. He may not be initiating contact, but he is in where contact occurs. All too often Eichel is doing it from stick length away. It is a much more effective play done in where contact is more likely. to be honest, I get the impression that young Jack is still intimidated by NHL contact. At times it does appear that way. Considering his age & experience level, it isn't surprising.  I expect that to go away w/ experience. He still hasn't recieved that "welcome to the NHL kid" hit (I can't recall 1 anyway); though he has avoided a couple spectacularly. Yes, I'm looking at you Johnny Brother-of-Girlchuk. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 At times it does appear that way. Considering his age & experience level, it isn't surprising.  I expect that to go away w/ experience. He still hasn't recieved that "welcome to the NHL kid" hit (I can't recall 1 anyway); though he has avoided a couple spectacularly. Yes, I'm looking at you Johnny Brother-of-Girlchuk. ;)  I agree. I expect it will change. But right now it is really my only criticism of his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 So, who locked the Sabres Brass Leaf Fan thread? Was it PA? Mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 So, who locked the Sabres Brass Leaf Fan thread? Was it PA? Mods? Â I don't think he would have locked it, but if it was a mod it was a stealthy under the radar move, as usually when a mod (chz anyway) locks a thread they usually post some kind of closing / locking post to clearly indicate that a mod has pulled the plug. Â Is there anyway to tell what time a thread was locked? I think I'll do a little digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Back to regular hockey! Â Thank god! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/694205697727303680 Â John Scott (@CanadiensMTL), Cam Atkinson (@BlueJacketsNHL), Jack Eichel (@BuffaloSabres) named NHL "Three Stars" of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Eichel? (For the stuff he did prior to the ASG?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Eichel? (For the stuff he did prior to the ASG?) That, or his work disguised as Dylan Larkin. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The new NHL.com format is rather shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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