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I need to hire someone to scrub the board and archives of anything even remotely negative I ever said about him.

 

And I felt alone in a crowd defending his Norris Trophy.  

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I did that once. It's not NHL level, but my god the pain.

 

Took a puck to the chin in my game tonight, and afterwords I was thinking about how lucky I was, in light of the Hendricks incident.

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This is both hilarious and awesome. Did it work?

 

 

It didn't, but I think it easily could have. Almost 7 minutes of sustained 6 on 5 pressure, Tampa outshot them 22-5 in the period. Soupy finally put in an empty netter to end it, but it was fun to watch!

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It didn't, but I think it easily could have. Almost 7 minutes of sustained 6 on 5 pressure, Tampa outshot them 22-5 in the period. Soupy finally put in an empty netter to end it, but it was fun to watch!

Wow, that sounds like a victory for the idea of pulling a goalie sooner than is conventional, even if it didn't end with a goal for the trailing team this time.
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Lee Stempniak scored two last night v Winnipeg giving him 12-22-34 for the season. He can score and can't be too expensive and is a native. I always thought he'd be a Sabre then I looked at his history and the man keeps getting shuffled from team to team. I wonder why.

 

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/player-bio/lee-stempniak

Perfect target to replace McGinn. All of the production for a third of the price.

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Perfect target to replace McGinn. All of the production for a third of the price.

 

But Stempniak is 32 and McGinn is 27, just entering his prime. I'd like to hang on to McGinn, even though he's an injury risk. There are other 30+ year olds on the team that are less productive...

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But Stempniak is 32 and McGinn is 27, just entering his prime. I'd like to hang on to McGinn, even though he's an injury risk. There are other 30+ year olds on the team that are less productive...

 

Thing is, Stempniak will only need a 1 year deal, whereas you have to commit to McGinn for probably 4. I also firmly reject that an average player like McGinn is entering his prime at 27:

 

scoring-and-shots.jpg

 

Points_aging_1.png

 

See also: http://hockeyanalytics.com/Research_files/CareerCurve-Krzywicki.pdf

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Thing is, Stempniak will only need a 1 year deal, whereas you have to commit to McGinn for probably 4. I also firmly reject that an average player like McGinn is entering his prime at 27:

 

scoring-and-shots.jpg

 

Points_aging_1.png

 

See also: http://hockeyanalytics.com/Research_files/CareerCurve-Krzywicki.pdf

Oh come on, man. These stats actually tell us less than nothing if we slavishly worship them without thinking critically about them. Do you really believe that forwards reach their peak at age 23 and then it's all down hill from there, as your charts suggest? If you do, you're the only one.

 

You have to ask yourself what factors may be influencing this data. Maybe one-dimensional offensive forwards tend to be released after showing for a few years they can't be effective 2-way players. Maybe the smart previously one-dimensional offensive forwards have learned to become effective 2-way players by age 24. Also what's with the shots/scoring chances anomaly at age 33-34? Does this mean we should expect all 33 year olds to suddenly become more effective for the next few years of their careers? That makes no sense. Heaven forbid, but maybe this anomaly is telling us that shots is NOT a good way to determine how effective players are. Egads!

 

Hockey is the same sport it was before analytics. Then, just as now, if you want to come to a meaningful conclusion, you ask smart hockey people who are close to the game and the league, not pencil-necked math geeks (like me).

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Oh come on, man. These stats actually tell us less than nothing if we slavishly worship them without thinking critically about them. Do you really believe that forwards reach their peak at age 23 and then it's all down hill from there, as your charts suggest? If you do, you're the only one.

 

You have to ask yourself what factors may be influencing this data. Maybe one-dimensional offensive forwards tend to be released after showing for a few years they can't be effective 2-way players. Maybe the smart previously one-dimensional offensive forwards have learned to become effective 2-way players by age 24. Also what's with the shots/scoring chances anomaly at age 33-34? Does this mean we should expect all 33 year olds to suddenly become more effective for the next few years of their careers? That makes no sense. Heaven forbid, but maybe this anomaly is telling us that shots is NOT a good way to determine how effective players are. Egads!

 

Hockey is the same sport it was before analytics. Then, just as now, if you want to come to a meaningful conclusion, you ask smart hockey people who are close to the game and the league, not pencil-necked math geeks (like me).

 

Thanks for reading the linked article which discusses many of your concerns.Oh right, I don't think you did. Egads!

 

No sane person would assert these trends are absolute laws that should be slavishly adhered to, unless they're setting up a straw man argument. Egads!

 

Completely ignoring this stuff is how Matt Moulson contracts happen.

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