Trade ideas and speculation

[Brawndo]

He won a cup as a rookie in NJ, so in Pittsburgh it would be his second cup run. I'm not sure if the Pens will win another cup this season, but they likely will go pretty far in the chase.

 

EDIT:

 

He won the cup in his second season in NJ.

 

Also hold the NJ record for goals in a season with 48. WOW!!

Good catch NS, meant to put one more Cup Run.

 

Interesting fact the Devils beat the Ducks in seven games a Duck Team that included a four line grinder named Dan Bylsma.

[WildCard]

“Defensively they’re not good enough. The goaltending has been a little shaky lately with Bishop out and Vasilevskiy. But we’ve seen Vasilevskiy perform well at a high level in the playoffs. So he’s capable of doing it. I think what’s going through here now is just one of those cases of he’s a good goalie and he’s going to be their goalie of the future, but he’s on a bit of a bad jag right now.

 

“I’m not sure what Steve Yzerman does, because there are so many financial handcuffs he’s dealing with, and financial pressures that he’s dealing with. But maybe that also plays into the fact that it gives him something to play with. That he’s not going to be able to sign all of his players in the summer. Tyler Johnson is up. Ondrej Palat is up for a deal. Jonathan Drouin is up for a deal. Now, he’s not trading Drouin. But boy oh boy, just about anybody else up front might be a possibility if they could get a defenseman in that would help them. If they get Stamkos back later in the season we’ll see, but nobody is counting on that.

 

“But I’ve got to think that something has got to give somewhere along the line.”

- McKenzie

 

Elliotte Friedman also singled out Tampa Bay as a team that “really wants to do something” on the trade front. He made the comment during a Monday appearance on Calgary’s Sportsnet 960, also noting the Los Angeles Kings and Chicago Blackhawks as teams really looking to make a deal

 

“Probably the guy who is going to get a lot of attention, and he doesn’t get a lot right now, is Michael Stone in Arizona,” said Friedman. “He’s an unrestricted free agent after this year. Pretty decent player. I think he’s a name you’re going to hear a lot.”

Stone is on a one-year, $4 million contract this season.

 

“It’s interesting,” continued Friedman. “It sounds like a lot of teams are trying to get their hands on Brandon Carlo, the young defenseman from Boston, but so far they’ve resisted Jacob Trouba and Gabriel Landeskog deals for him. So that tells you that if you want a young player or a young player with term, it’s going to cost you and it’s going to cost you big.”

 

http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mckenzie-something-has-got-to-give-for-struggling-lightning/

On Shattenkirk, Dreger speculates 7X7 in FA, on the East coast, Rangers /  Flyers / Bruins

 

http://www.fanragsports.com/news/dreger-targets-potential-ufa-destinations-shattenkirk/

Edited January 10, 2017 by WildCard

[Brawndo]

Dreger: #Avs ask for Landeskog "would be a high price. We're talking about a top-level defenseman, a first-round draft pick, plus."

 

Umm, no

[Huckleberry]

Dreger: #Avs ask for Landeskog "would be a high price. We're talking about a top-level defenseman, a first-round draft pick, plus."

 

Umm, no

 

Seeing hall got the oilers larsson, I think sakic shouldn't dream of a big haul.

[Sabel79]

Sakic will not rest until he's razed that franchise then salted the earth so nothing ever grows again....  What in the world?  Patrick Roy is looking like the sane one in retrospect at this stage. 

[LTS]

The Avs can keep asking for it, but unless someone gives it up they remain the same team and that can't last.  That's the whole problem with waiting until suck to make a trade.  The acquiring teams don't have the pressure.  It's ownership and the GM in Colorado that have the pressure to do something.

 

Either that or there needs to be a lot of patience.

[WildCard]

How does Joe Sakic still have a job?

[WildCard]

“Well, that’s exactly it,” agreed LeBrun. “When I talk to other teams around the league that are monitoring the Colorado situation, I think they feel that there’s a better chance that the off-season is when the Avalanche really make their serious moves. Whether it’s Landeskog and/or a Matt Duchene, or other moves that the off-season presents, a better opportunity with more teams involved and the salary cap not a factor to make some groundbreaking moves.

 

“But I also think, more globally guys, the Avalanche have to decide: Is this a full teardown, or a re-tooling of this team that once again has disappointed this year.”

 

“I’ve always been kind of informed that the Avalanche’s plans were they have $17 million coming off their cap at the end of this year, and they were going to do what it took with that kind of freedom to try add at least one defenseman, but hopefully two. I still do think that’s their plan, though I’m sure they’re getting lots of calls asking them if they feel any differently.”

- Friedman

 

McKenzie followed up and closed out the discussion of the Avs on Insider Trading Tuesday evening.

 

“There are many that believe that this Avs plummet to the basement is precisely the reason why head coach Patrick Roy resigned in the summer rather than continue to be a part of it, and that he knew this was likely coming,” said McKenzie. “And that if this came with him behind the bench, the logical move would be at American Thanksgiving or Christmas to let the coach go and he would part on his own terms rather than be a victim of that.”

http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mckenzie-avalanches-course-going-drastically-wrong-direction/

Edited January 11, 2017 by WildCard

[WildCard]

“I think Trouba is almost always in play. I really do.” said Friedman. “I still think there are teams – nobody looks at this two-year deal as a long term solution. I just think that Winnipeg’s thought process hasn’t changed. ‘You’re going to have to make it worth it to us to do it.’ I think at some point in time somebody is going to. I do.

 

“They’ve made their peace, their short term bridge peace, as you say. And I think eventually, this will become something that everybody has to deal with again. Winnipeg set a price. As far as they’re concerned, this is what the price is. And I think teams know that. This is what the price for defensemen is now, and at some point in time I think somebody will pay it.

 

“But I think what this two-year deal did was it got it out of the front pages and put it on the back burner, but I think it’s always still there.

http://www.fanragsports.com/news/friedman-thinks-jets-trade-price-trouba-will-eventually-met/

 

What would you pay for Trouba?

 

“They had assumed Allen was going to be the No. 1 guy. That’s why they traded Elliott. And at times last year Allen certainly looked like he was trending toward that. And as I say, even in October and November he was fine. But his game has gone south and they need some insulation now and they need to stop the bleeding. So I would think they’re going to be looking at the goalie market. But again, they’ve got to be real careful in terms of how much they give up.”

 

“So whether Bishop is going soon – between now and the deadline – or whether Bishop is going into free agency, I would tend to think that Bishop is going. So I don’t know.”

 

- McKenzie

 

http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mckenzie-concerns-allen-blues-options/

Edited January 13, 2017 by WildCard

[Randall Flagg]

I wouldn't pay much for Trouba, not a huge fan. 

[TrueBlueGED]

Brian Hedger ‏@BrianHedger  9m9 minutes ago

Heard #Avs are open for business for all but MacKinnon. Landeskog & Duchene apparently available, but both have very high pricetags. #NHL

 

Tyson Barrie really would be freaking perfect, but man, I just don't know how we get a deal done there.

[WildCard]

I really believe Barrie is untouchable. They want defensmen back, why would they move him?

[TrueBlueGED]

I really believe Barrie is untouchable. They want defensmen back, why would they move him?

 

Because my wet dreams demand it.

[WildCard]

Because my wet dreams demand it.

Shoot for Karlsson in that case then :lol:

[Randall Flagg]

Don't want Tyson Barrie on this team ever really, but especially with what our defensemen do with this particular coach. There are guys that could flourish with what we do, I'm not prepared to give a list, but I feel that Tyson Barrie belongs on the exact opposite list.

Edited January 13, 2017 by Randall Flagg

[TrueBlueGED]

Shoot for Karlsson in that case then :lol:

 

Look, I'm just trying to get one supermodel to sleep with me, not all of them.

 

 

Don't want Tyson Barrie on this team ever really, but especially with what our defensemen do with this particular coach. There are guys that could flourish with what we do, I'm not prepared to give a list, but I feel that Tyson Barrie belongs on the exact opposite list.

 

You're not wrong on the scheme fit.

[Brawndo]

Don't want Tyson Barrie on this team ever really, but especially with what our defensemen do with this particular coach. There are guys that could flourish with what we do, I'm not prepared to give a list, but I feel that Tyson Barrie belongs on the exact opposite list.

  

Look, I'm just trying to get one supermodel to sleep with me, not all of them.

 

 

 

 

You're not wrong on the scheme fit.

It's also possible to dream about the team needing to learn a new scheme in the next 18 months

[Brawndo]

Craig Custance is speculating that with all the RFAs the Lightning need to re-sign, Namely Johnson, Palat and Drouin, that Drouin could be a traded for a blue liner.

 

I'm giving up Mc Cabe plus for privilege.

[inkman]

Craig Custance is speculating that with all the RFAs the Lightning need to re-sign, Namely Johnson, Palat and Drouin, that Drouin could be a traded for a blue liner.

 

I'm giving up Mc Cabe plus for privilege.

Drouin is great and all but the Sabres cannot trade away Risto, McCabe or Guhle. They are the only D anywhere near projecting to be top 4.

[TrueBlueGED]

Drouin is great and all but the Sabres cannot trade away Risto, McCabe or Guhle. They are the only D anywhere near projecting to be top 4.

Agreed. Unless we can also bamboozle Anaheim into Fowler for Kane...which, yea, not happening.

 

I do like Palat as a target though. Still addresses a need, and would carry a cheaper price.

[Brawndo]

A bonafide top 3 winger who has the speed and finishing ability to be a permanent fixture on Jack's Line is worth that price.

 

I agree that those three only 3 Top D in the system right now, but for that level of talent you have to make a sacrifice.

 

Figuring that Las Vegas will most likely have a some solid second pairing D Men and would probably move one for a forward. ( Kane, Foligno or Zemgus for example) I would make the deal

[TrueBlueGED]

A bonafide top 3 winger who has the speed and finishing ability to be a permanent fixture on Jack's Line is worth that price.

 

I agree that those three only 3 Top D in the system right now, but for that level of talent you have to make a sacrifice.

 

Figuring that Las Vegas will most likely have a some solid second pairing D Men and would probably move one for a forward. ( Kane, Foligno or Zemgus for example) I would make the deal

I'm just not super confident in our ability to upgrade the D through a trade. Call it the Larsson-Hall Principle. I can't fathom being better next season if Gorges, Kulikov (very much a queation himself), and Guhle make up the LHD corps.

[WildCard]

Shattenkirk is a UFA and wants to play on the east coast

[TrueBlueGED]

Shattenkirk is a UFA and wants to play on the east coast

After the season we're having? No f'n way.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Shattenkirk is a UFA and wants to play on the east coast

 

Yeah, in NYC.