Trade ideas and speculation

[Huckleberry]

http://pucksandrecreation.com/european-ufas-with-an-nhl-future/

 

nice article I got from HF boards.

[Hoss]

4. Who’s in on Jacob Trouba? As best as I can tell, the list includes Arizona, Buffalo, Boston, Colorado, Detroit and the Rangers. This is purely a guess, but I could see Dallas and Tampa lurking. No idea how the Lightning could do it but Stars GM Jim Nill is always looking to upgrade his blue line. I’d thought Montreal but a couple of sources doubted it. Florida was trying before the draft but its moves afterward likely eliminate the possibility. The asks have been high. It wouldn’t surprise me, for example, if the Jets asked Buffalo for Rasmus Ristolainen, a right-hand shot who has played the left side. Apparently, some of those teams have been told they don’t have enough, which has led to them trying to involve third parties.

 

9. Dan Bylsma put Evander Kane with Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart for Buffalo’s final preseason game. They looked excellent in a 4-2 win over Ottawa. It will be interesting to see if Kane is there for good or if it’s an attempt to raise his value. Obviously, Vancouver was interested. But the offers weren’t anywhere close enough to get a deal done.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-goalie-equipment-changes-tangled-debate/

Edited October 9, 2016 by Hoss

[LGR4GM]

I wouldn't trade Rasmus for Trouba.

[Hoss]

I wouldn't trade Rasmus for Trouba.

Me either.

 

If Murray wants to get Trouba I think they'd need to get very creative. Find a way to unload Bogo and give Winnipeg what they want. 30 Thoughts mentions some teams maybe using Cam Fowler to get Trouba.

Three-team deal involving the other Murray over in Anaheim?

 

To Buffalo: Jacob Trouba

To Winnipeg: Cam Fowler, Buffalo 2017 first

To Anaheim: Evander Kane

 

Then get the best forward you can get for Bogo? Pearson out of LA would be a good move, they do need right-handed dmen. Sign Risto and Trouba.

 

Defense becomes:

Kulikov - Risto

McCabe - Trouba

Gorges - Franson

 

That might be a deal you only make if you're confident Nylander can play in the NHL right now and is good on the left wing (he's been said to be versatile enough to do so).

Edited October 9, 2016 by Hoss

[Thorner]

Me either.

 

If Murray wants to get Trouba I think they'd need to get very creative. Find a way to unload Bogo and give Winnipeg what they want. 30 Thoughts mentions some teams maybe using Cam Fowler to get Trouba.

Three-team deal involving the other Murray over in Anaheim?

 

To Buffalo: Jacob Trouba

To Winnipeg: Cam Fowler, Buffalo 2017 first

To Anaheim: Evander Kane

 

Then get the best forward you can get for Bogo? Pearson out of LA would be a good move, they do need right-handed dmen. Sign Risto and Trouba.

 

Defense becomes:

Kulikov - Risto

McCabe - Trouba

Gorges - Franson

 

That might be a deal you only make if you're confident Nylander can play in the NHL right now and is good on the left wing (he's been said to be versatile enough to do so).

The emergence of Grant ;)

 

Nylander can still play in the AHL - Girgensons at line 2 LW, Grant at 4C.

 

Interesting proposal there, Hoss.

Edited October 9, 2016 by Thorny

[Hoss]

The emergence of Grant ;)

 

Nylander can still play in the AHL - Girgensons at line 2 LW, Grant at 4C.

 

Interesting proposal there, Hoss.

I've moved on from the idea of Girgensons being a top-six winger. And he's been playing exclusively at center this preseason which the team says has helped him. Keep him there.

Grant scoring in the preseason is cool, but he's not a major factor in any big decisions (at least I hope not). He's Matt Ellis until proven otherwise.

[Thorner]

I've moved on from the idea of Girgensons being a top-six winger. And he's been playing exclusively at center this preseason which the team says has helped him. Keep him there.

Grant scoring in the preseason is cool, but he's not a major factor in any big decisions (at least I hope not). He's Matt Ellis until proven otherwise.

Yup, was kidding on him being a factor.

 

Still, IF that was a trade they wanted to make, I don't think they would let Nylander's availability for this year affect the deal. He'll almost certainly be able to slot in in the top 6 soon, if a fill in needs to be found for this season, they could always go that route.

[Hoss]

Yup, was kidding on him being a factor.

 

Still, IF that was a trade they wanted to make, I don't think they would let Nylander's availability for this year affect the deal. He'll almost certainly be able to slot in in the top 6 soon, if a fill in needs to be found for this season, they could always go that route.

Certainly. I do like the idea of bringing in Pearson. There was some talk this offseason that LA wasn't opposed to using him in deals, and he'd be an awesome third-line LW once Nylander is ready.

[qwksndmonster]

I've moved on from the idea of Girgensons being a top-six winger. And he's been playing exclusively at center this preseason which the team says has helped him. Keep him there.

Grant scoring in the preseason is cool, but he's not a major factor in any big decisions (at least I hope not). He's Matt Ellis until proven otherwise.

I'd much rather have Zemgus playing third fiddle to Sam and Jack. I'll concede that he's probably not a top 6er as far as talent goes, but he definitely has the tools to be an effective complimentary player. I think Zemgus is a lot better than he played last year.

[Huckleberry]

I'd much rather have Zemgus playing third fiddle to Sam and Jack. I'll concede that he's probably not a top 6er as far as talent goes, but he definitely has the tools to be an effective complimentary player. I think Zemgus is a lot better than he played last year.

 

Zemgus isn't even the 3C at the moment, that spot belongs to Larsson, so either you use him as 4C or you move him to the wing.

But he doesn't belong in my top 6. 

[qwksndmonster]

Zemgus isn't even the 3C at the moment, that spot belongs to Larsson, so either you use him as 4C or you move him to the wing.

But he doesn't belong in my top 6. 

I think a balanced top 9 is the best approach for our stable of forwards. 

 

Ennis - O'Reilly - Okposo

Girgensons - Eichel - Samson

Kane - Larsson - Fasching

Foligno - Grant - Gionta

[3putt]

I think a balanced top 9 is the best approach for our stable of forwards. 

 

Ennis - O'Reilly - Okposo

Girgensons - Eichel - Samson

Kane - Larsson - Fasching

Foligno - Grant - Gionta

I like those combos but it assumes an equal or more equal distribution of toi and I have little faith DD rolls 4.  I think Zemgus is going to get shoved to the bottom. 

[LGR4GM]

After the last preseason game there should be no chance in hell that Kane - Eichel - Reinhart don't start as a line. 

[thewookie1]

Me either.

 

If Murray wants to get Trouba I think they'd need to get very creative. Find a way to unload Bogo and give Winnipeg what they want. 30 Thoughts mentions some teams maybe using Cam Fowler to get Trouba.

Three-team deal involving the other Murray over in Anaheim?

 

To Buffalo: Jacob Trouba

To Winnipeg: Cam Fowler, Buffalo 2017 first

To Anaheim: Evander Kane

 

Then get the best forward you can get for Bogo? Pearson out of LA would be a good move, they do need right-handed dmen. Sign Risto and Trouba.

 

Defense becomes:

Kulikov - Risto

McCabe - Trouba

Gorges - Franson

 

That might be a deal you only make if you're confident Nylander can play in the NHL right now and is good on the left wing (he's been said to be versatile enough to do so).

 

 

Too rich for my taste, everyone always wants to trade Bogosian, but I really don't see how we'll gain from trading a 1st, Kane, and Bogosian for Trouba and insert random winger here

[thewookie1]

I have figured out how to sign Risto & Trouba while not trading Bogosian.

 

Trade Franson to EDM for G. Reinhart, a 3rd and a 4th in 2019

 

Trade E. Kane to ANA for Fowler and Stoner

 

Trade Fowler and a 2nd for Trouba

[Hoss]

Too rich for my taste, everyone always wants to trade Bogosian, but I really don't see how we'll gain from trading a 1st, Kane, and Bogosian for Trouba and insert random winger here

I know. :p

 

Looking at your proposal leads me to two questions:

- are you prepared to have both Edmonton and Winnipeg say no? Because they will.

- how are you paying Risto, Trouba and Bogo, especially all on the right side?

 

I'd probably be more inclined to trade for Fowler and keep him than give up extra top assets to ship him to Winnipeg for Trouba, for the record.

[GASabresIUFAN]

I have figured out how to sign Risto & Trouba while not trading Bogosian.

 

Trade Franson to EDM for G. Reinhart, a 3rd and a 4th in 2019

 

Trade E. Kane to ANA for Fowler and Stoner

 

Trade Fowler and a 2nd for Trouba

 

Interesting,  Elliotte Friedman said we have made inquiries about Trouba.  The biggest problem I see is getting Edm to take Franson from us.  I like the notion of Kane to Ana for Fowler and Stoner.  

[TrueBlueGED]

I have figured out how to sign Risto & Trouba while not trading Bogosian.

 

Trade Franson to EDM for G. Reinhart, a 3rd and a 4th in 2019

 

Trade E. Kane to ANA for Fowler and Stoner

 

Trade Fowler and a 2nd for Trouba

I don't think you could get Stoner for Kane, let alone Fowler.

[nfreeman]

Again -- Anaheim isn't taking on an expensive contact in any trade.

[Thorner]

I have figured out how to sign Risto & Trouba while not trading Bogosian.

 

Trade Franson to EDM for G. Reinhart, a 3rd and a 4th in 2019

 

Trade E. Kane to ANA for Fowler and Stoner

 

Trade Fowler and a 2nd for Trouba

I'd rather have Fowler than Trouba. Guy is downtrending.

[TrueBlueGED]

I'd rather have Fowler than Trouba. Guy is downtrending.

That's a tough one. Assuming the requisite trades could be worked out, I think I'd rather run Kulikov-Risto and McCabe-Trouba as my top-4 than Fowler-Risto and McCabe-Bogosian.

[Thorner]

That's a tough one. Assuming the requisite trades could be worked out, I think I'd rather run Kulikov-Risto and McCabe-Trouba as my top-4 than Fowler-Risto and McCabe-Bogosian.

I'd rather run Fowler - Risto and Kulikov - Bogosian.

[TrueBlueGED]

I'd rather run Fowler - Risto and Kulikov - Bogosian.

For this year, maybe. I was working under the assumption if we get Fowler that Kulikov is long gone after this season, though.

[Thorner]

For this year, maybe. I was working under the assumption if we get Fowler that Kulikov is long gone after this season, though.

If it necessitates losing Kulikov I would have to consider it further, but I don't think that would have to be the case.

 

I'm probably skewed by the fact that I see a lot of Trouba, and I don't think he is very good. There is a reason the Jets are electing to play Myers over him in their second pairing RD spot.

[Cisse]

I'd sign Teemu Pulkkinen from the waiver's. He is very cheap and his shot can match Patrik Laine's shot. He needs to work with his skating still but he would be lethal in power play with someone like Eichel. We could get rid of Kane and get the same amount of goals and save with the salaries.