Brawndo Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Coyotes listening to offers @azc_mclellan: Talk for a potential trade package for #Coyotes' third pick has run the gamut: NHL-ready players, prospects and picks, Maloney said. Quote
WildCard Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Coyotes listening to offers @azc_mclellan: Talk for a potential trade package for #Coyotes' third pick has run the gamut: NHL-ready players, prospects and picks, Maloney said. I don't understand this. Is it a move to put in the seats? They need elite, young talent, and #3 offers that. Unless they can really get someone to overpay, I don't get this move. Quote
dudacek Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 I think Edmonton should offer Arizona Draisaitl and #33 for #3 and take Hanifin. Quote
Trettioåtta Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 I think Edmonton should offer Arizona Draisaitl and #33 for #3 and take Hanifin. I think Arizona take Strome, if they still have the pick. Giving Edmonton Hanifin anway Quote
Hoss Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) I think Edmonton should offer Arizona Draisaitl and #33 for #3 and take Hanifin.It'll take more than that. Draisaitl's value is like that of a car. He's been driven off the lot. Maybe Draisaitl and 16.But if you trade away #3 it's either to drop a spot or two or to acquire a plethora of solid assets. Edited June 23, 2015 by Hoss Quote
dudacek Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 I think Arizona take Strome, if they still have the pick. Giving Edmonton Hanifin anway You mean Toronto? I agree Arizona probably wants a big centre and I think Draisaitl is better than Strome. That's why I make the deal. God knows the Oilers need and would love Hanifin. Toronto could make Edmonton the same offer is Hanifan slips to four. Quote
Trettioåtta Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) You mean Toronto? I agree Arizona probably wants a big centre and I think Draisaitl is better than Strome. That's why I make the deal. God knows the Oilers need and would love Hanifin. Toronto could make Edmonton the same offer is Hanifan slips to four. So I think both Toronto and Arizona pick offence. Both need that big star player that can capture the audience. OEL is a star player, but defence is never as 'cool' as watching someone power past or dangle through a team and score. I think Arizona take Strome and Toronto take Marner. Basically I don't think Edmonton can get back into that top bracket. Draisaitl is not as good as the current draft is evaluated. i could see Carolina working though. Another solution for Edmonton could be 16 + something to get to a position for Provonov Edited June 23, 2015 by ThirtyEight Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 I hope nobody trades anything major to Toronto or Edmonton. Quote
Hoss Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Posted June 23, 2015 I wish there wasn't such a need for barber-shop style radio... Schopp just floated the idea of Reinhart for O'Reilly. Such a waste of radio time. Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) I wish there wasn't such a need for barber-shop style radio... Schopp just floated the idea of Reinhart for O'Reilly. Such a waste of radio time. No different from much of what is posted here in terms of ridiculous trade offers. ;) Edited June 23, 2015 by LabattBlue Quote
Hoss Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Posted June 23, 2015 No different from much of what is posted here in terms of ridiculous trade offers. ;) We're not paid "professionals." Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 We're not paid "professionals." Just because they are paid doesn't mean everything that comes out of their mouths has to be "genius". Quote
Hoss Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Posted June 23, 2015 Just because they are paid doesn't mean everything that comes out of their mouths has to be "genius". Sure, but it should be "sane." Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Reinhart for O'Reilly- just shows you how stupid they are. Don't get me wrong O'Reilly is a solid player but Reinhart could turn into something special. We shall see. Plus I don't like the fact that a guy who hasn't been in the league that long already is having contract issues. I get it he wants to get paid but I don't know if he's worth what he thinks he is. I just hope Murray doesn't trade (overpay again) for a guy like this. Edited June 23, 2015 by SabresBillsFan Quote
Weave Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Schopp doesn't get paid to be either reasonable or sane. He's paid to get people to react. Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Sure, but it should be "sane." The best thing that happened to me when I retired is that it minimized the amount of time I spend listening to WGR during the morning and afternoon commutes. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Sure, but it should be "sane." To be clear up front, I wouldn't trade Reinhart for O'Reilly. However, what odds would you put on him being significantly better than a 55-60 point player who is stout defensively and drives possession? 50%? Less? I'd hate the trade because of the age and contract differences, as well as where the Sabres are at on the rebuild...but it's not completely nuts. Quote
pi2000 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Coyotes listening to offers @azc_mclellan: Talk for a potential trade package for #Coyotes' third pick has run the gamut: NHL-ready players, prospects and picks, Maloney said. ARI will be all in this coming season for local boy Auston Matthews, the consensus 2016 #1 pick. I'd say they have the inside track to finish 30th, but we all know how that usually works out in the lottery. A top prospect, a 2015 1st and a 2016 top 5 probably gets it done. BUF has all those available... but do they give up their lottery ticket for Matthews as part of the deal? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 The best thing that happened to me when I retired is that it minimized the amount of time I spend listening to WGR during the morning and afternoon commutes. Hey! I think the morning show is very well done. I can't be the only one...right? Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 23, 2015 Report Posted June 23, 2015 Hey! I think the morning show is very well done. I can't be the only one...right? Never liked Jeremy White. Howard Simon is okay. Matthew Collar and his obsession with hockey analytics drive me crazy. Quote
Hoss Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Posted June 23, 2015 To be clear up front, I wouldn't trade Reinhart for O'Reilly. However, what odds would you put on him being significantly better than a 55-60 point player who is stout defensively and drives possession? 50%? Less? I'd hate the trade because of the age and contract differences, as well as where the Sabres are at on the rebuild...but it's not completely nuts. I'd say the odds are very good. I have a ton of faith in Reinhart. Quote
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Trader Tim will certainly be active this week. My hope is he can somehow get rid of Hodgson by trade and resolve the uncertainty surrounding Grigorenko. My biggest fear is that he gives away too many draft picks to acquire an asset he desires. I firmly believe he gave away too much in the Winnipeg trade. I believe he also gave away too much in the trade with the LA KIngs. He is really burning through all the assets he inherited from the Darcy Regier trades very quickly. This year it ends. Here is what I fear: he trades #21 for a goalie like Cam Talbot. The price is too high. There are numerous goalies who are available in free agency who can do the job in the short term. I thought Neuvirth and Lindback played well last year. Another fear is that he trades multiple picks and a prospect, including #21, for an overpriced veteran forward. My hope is that if he trades #21, then he trades up toward the top 10-12 to get another top prospect without giving away future 1st round picks. I would trade #21 and #31 to get #10 if I had a chance at premium targeted player. I hope Trader Tim keeps his head and negotiates a good deal or two. Edited June 24, 2015 by PotentPowerPlay22 Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 @TSNBobMcKenzie: ARI GM Don Maloney says he has two firm offers to trade outright the No. 3 overall pick in draft that give him "pause to consider." Quote
WildCard Posted June 24, 2015 Report Posted June 24, 2015 @TSNBobMcKenzie: ARI GM Don Maloney says he has two firm offers to trade outright the No. 3 overall pick in draft that give him "pause to consider." Gotta figure Toronto is one of them. Who is the other? Flyers? Canes? Quote
Hoss Posted June 24, 2015 Author Report Posted June 24, 2015 Gotta figure Toronto is one of them. Who is the other? Flyers? Canes? Nobody. Maloney has zero good offers. He has a few that are close and wants them to get closer. That's why he planted that quote. Quote
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