That Aud Smell Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Serious question, though: Is RoR as a $60m man a bad investment? What's a fair price? "fair" can = overpaying for a coveted asset.
darksabre Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 O'Reilly is about as similar to Drew Stafford as Eichel is to Afinogenov. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not buying the hype at all on O'Reilly.
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Posted June 26, 2015 Serious question, though: Is RoR as a $60m man a bad investment? What's a fair price? If the Buffalo Sabres traded Pysyk, Foligno and 31 or Girogrenko for ROR, and ROR took a 6.5mil 7 year deal, I would be content.
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Ryan O'Reilly. Wasn't he the guy from HBO's OZ?
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Serious question, though: Is RoR as a $60m man a bad investment? What's a fair price? To me, $7.5 million per is fair given recent contracts. Stastny got $7 million as a UFA for 4 years, and he was a handful of years older at time of signing. Toews new deal is $10.5 per, so it's not like he'd get a deal worth as much as one of the best in the league.
Trettioåtta Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 If the Buffalo Sabres traded Pysyk, Foligno and 31 or Girogrenko for ROR, and ROR took a 6.5mil 7 year deal, I would be content. McCabe instead of Pysyk
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Posted June 26, 2015 McCabe instead of Pysyk LHS versus RHS. With Bogosian and Risto on the Sabres, Pysyk will be slotted on that 3rd pairing.
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 To me, $7.5 million per is fair given recent contracts. Stastny got $7 million as a UFA for 4 years, and he was a handful of years older at time of signing. Toews new deal is $10.5 per, so it's not like he'd get a deal worth as much as one of the best in the league. I'm willing to overpay for O'Reilly. Getting anchors for the forward lines cost money.
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 LHS versus RHS. With Bogosian and Risto on the Sabres, Pysyk will be slotted on that 3rd pairing. We don't know this. He wouldn't be the first Dman in history to play on his off hand. Plenty of teams end up with more left shots than right shots, I don't see why we can't do the opposite, at least in theory.
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Next person that puts BOGO in a trade deal gets duct taped to a seat on a public bus during the burrito festival.
beerme1 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 The strongest argument I could make for ROR is it would allow Eichel time to grow up to first line C.
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 We don't know this. He wouldn't be the first Dman in history to play on his off hand. Plenty of teams end up with more left shots than right shots, I don't see why we can't do the opposite, at least in theory. If Buffalo picks at 21....I'm expecting a left wing/left shot. Buffalo has Right handed centers, and Right handed D. Need a sniper on the left.
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Kypreos on GR right now, states EDM, TOR and BUF are in on ROR
Trettioåtta Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Kypreos on GR right now, states EDM, TOR and BUF are in on ROR If Edmonton steal him as well, i'll be pissed
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Kypreos on GR right now, states EDM, TOR and BUF are in on ROR I'm positive I'll cry if he goes to Toronto. That would just be soul crushing.
That Aud Smell Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Well, TrueBlue can abide $7.5M. At 8 years, that's $60M.
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) If Buffalo picks at 21....I'm expecting a left wing/left shot. Buffalo has Right handed centers, and Right handed D. Need a sniper on the left.Our forward situation is weird. All of our current wingers are left shots, but all of our wing prospects are right shots. Talk about off balance. Next person that puts BOGO in a trade deal gets duct taped to a seat on a public bus during the burrito festival.Dress me like Eichelcorn and strap me in, because I'm pretty sure if this O'Reilly thing drags out I'm tossing another Bogosian trade idea out there :lol: Edited June 26, 2015 by TrueBluePhD
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Our forward situation is weird. All of our current wingers are left shots, but all of our wing prospects are right shots. Talk about off balance. Good point. I'm wondering how it gets addressed.
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Posted June 26, 2015 Also all of our top tier centers are right shots (Eichel, Reinhart)
Drunkard Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Kypreos on GR right now, states EDM, TOR and BUF are in on ROR I'm an atheist but if there's a just and loving God in the sky then Edmonton or Toronto will be stuck with the tab of overpaying for O'Reilly. $7 + million plus whatever in asset overpayment for a guy who has scored 20 goals once in his career and plays a good defensive game isn't worth it. He probably would be worth it to Toronto because he can be their first line center. In Buffalo, he'd be taking up a large chunk of the cap to play 3rd line center or be pushed to the wing where we already have enough guys who can play left wing (Kane, Moulson, Foligno, Deslauriers, Grigorenko, Larsson) and already have a good left winger playing on his off side (Ennis). Edited June 26, 2015 by Drunkard
nfreeman Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 If the Buffalo Sabres traded Pysyk, Foligno and 31 or Girogrenko for ROR, and ROR took a 6.5mil 7 year deal, I would be content. Getting dangerously close to Roy-for-Malkin territory here...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Also all of our top tier centers are right shots (Eichel, Reinhart) And the middle tier are left: Girgensons and Larsson.
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Posted June 26, 2015 Getting dangerously close to Roy-for-Malkin territory here... No, you guys told me repeatedly that ROR wasn't going to command a ton in a trade because of his contract. You don't get to have it both ways.
Trettioåtta Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Is there any evidence that handedness actually matters? A right handed shot LW can sometimes put up 60 goals a season
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