Superdraft - where would every NHL player get picked today?

[LGR4GM]

One thing I like about this thread is that it is building a benchmark for our other conversations.

 

Is so-and-so a top-six forward? Well, he was the 33rd forward picked in the super-draft, so pretty clearly he is.

He can't play on your first pair. Really? He the 23rd defence man taken in the super-draft, good chance there aren't 60 defencemen better than him.

Goalies are a dime a dozen. Probably. Only two taken in the first two rounds of the super-draft.

 

Not that it is master-list by any means, and there will be outliers, but it is developing a Sabrespace consensus.

No it doesn't.  I am sorry but because 1 or 2 posters have selected a player above where they should it doesn't mean we have consensus on ROR.  

 

For me this list gives me no consensus on anything other than we value centers above every other position in hockey. 

[dudacek]

No it doesn't.  I am sorry but because 1 or 2 posters have selected a player above where they should it doesn't mean we have consensus on ROR.  

 

For me this list gives me no consensus on anything other than we value centers above every other position in hockey. 

 

You won't, but you seem to be the only poster expressing reservations about O'Relly being the 37th forward taken.

Even using your definition from the other thread of "90 top-six forwards in the league," O'Reilly could have been overpriced by 50 selections and still qualify.

Edited May 18, 2015 by dudacek

[Randall Flagg]

Okay I'm here, it'll just take five minutes to go through my list and update who's been taken

And thanks eleven, I would have sent you a list if I had caught that before.

[Hoss]

No it doesn't. I am sorry but because 1 or 2 posters have selected a player above where they should it doesn't mean we have consensus on ROR.

 

For me this list gives me no consensus on anything other than we value centers above every other position in hockey.

Your crusade against ROR has no limits, huh? Just because you disagree that O'Reilly is a top-six forward doesn't make what Dudacek said untrue.

[Randall Flagg]

I'm picking Max Pacioretty.

[LGR4GM]

Your crusade against ROR has no limits, huh? Just because you disagree that O'Reilly is a top-six forward doesn't make what Dudacek said untrue.

Doesn't make what he said true either.  

 

 

But this isn't the thread for this. 

[Hoss]

Doesn't make what he said true either.

 

 

But this isn't the thread for this.

Of course you disagreeing with what he says doesn't make it true. :p

 

But what Dudacek is pretty accurate aside from situations where most posters may disagree with a pick (which is likely pretty rare). If just one of many posters disagrees then I would be more inclined to believe that poster is wrong.

[LGR4GM]

Of course you disagreeing with what he says doesn't make it true. :P

 

But what Dudacek is pretty accurate aside from situations where most posters may disagree with a pick (which is likely pretty rare). If just one of many posters disagrees then I would be more inclined to believe that poster is wrong.

See this is why I didn't want to have the ROR debate.  This right here.  It was a kobayashi maru from the start for me, which I knew.  

Edited May 18, 2015 by LGR4GM

[dudacek]

JJ Liger and Flagg, next three picks.

[LGR4GM]

Mine is locked and loaded.  

[Randall Flagg]

Mine is locked and loaded.

Me too, I'm quite pleased unless you and JJ each take my next two guys...

[LGR4GM]

Me too, I'm quite pleased unless you and JJ each take my next two guys...

Who is your next guy? I promise I won't take him...  :flirt:

[Randall Flagg]

Who is your next guy? I promise I won't take him... :flirt:

Cody Hodgson. You better not.

[LGR4GM]

Cody Hodgson. You better not.

I think it's spelled Cy Hgsn but I am drafting this amazing center prospect from Finland.  I can't name him but he played for Philadelphia once. 

[Randall Flagg]

I think it's spelled Cy Hgsn but I am drafting this amazing center prospect from Finland. I can't name him but he played for Philadelphia once.

Just better hope JJ doesn't get there first.

 

There are three or four guys I am very surprised haven't gone yet.

[LGR4GM]

Just better hope JJ doesn't get there first.

 

There are three or four guys I am very surprised haven't gone yet.

I'm honestly probably not picking one of those guys you're surprised over lol

Wait I just changed who I am taking. Didn't know he was still available. 

[JJFIVEOH]

With the 57th pick of the 2015 Superdraft, JJ picks Aleksander Barkov. 

[Randall Flagg]

With the 57th pick of the 2015 Superdraft, JJ picks Aleksander Barkov.

Barkov to Perry, could be magic in a year or two.

[LGR4GM]

I went back n forth with this pick but I decided to trust youth over experience... Nikita Kucherov

[Randall Flagg]

Seabrook.

WildCard, you get 2 straight picks.

[dudacek]

Updated list:

 

First Round picks:

 

 

1. WildCard (Buffalo) - Patrick Kane

2. Randall Flagg (Arizona) - Connor McDavid
3. Liger (Edmonton) - John Tavares
4. JJ (Toronto) - Corey Perry
5. Qwksndmonster (Carolina) - Jonathan Toews 
6. Dudacek (New Jersey) - Sidney Crosby
7. Eleven (Philly) - Steven Stamkos
8. WildCard (Columbus) - Alexander Ovechkin
9. Thorny (San Jose) - Jack Eichel
10. Derrico (Colorado) - Shea Weber
11. TrueBlue (Florida) - Tyler Seguin
12. Whisky (Dallas) - Ryan Johansen
13. 3Putt (LA) - Niklas Backstrom
14. Taro (Boston) - Nathan MacKinnon
15. Ubkev (Calgary) - Claude Giroux
16. Ubkev (Pittsburgh) - Evgeni Malkin
17. Eleven Nfreemen (Winnipeg) - Erik Karlsson
18. Dudacek (Ottawa) - Drew Doughty
19. Taro (Detroit) - Jamie Benn
20. JJ (Minnesota) - Vladimir Tarasenko
21. Derrico (NYI) - PK Subban
22. Whisky (Washington) - Logan Couture
23. Hoss (Vancouver) - Ryan Getzlaf
24. Hoss (Chicago) - Carey Price
25. Liger (Nashville) - Filip Forsberg
26. Thorny (Tampa) - Anze Kopitar
27. 3Putt (St. Louis) - Sean Monahan
28. Flagg (Anaheim) - Patrice Bergeron
29. Flagg (Montreal) - Oliver Ekman-Larson
30. TrueBlue (NYR) - Alex Pietrangelo

 

 

 

 

31. TrueBlue - Pavel Datsyuk

32. Qwk - Duncan Keith

33. Qwk - Zach Parise

34. 3Putt - Jakub Voracek

35. Thorny - Taylor Hall

36. Liger - Joe Pavelski

37. Hoss - Tyler Johnson

38. Hoss - Roman Josi

39. Whisky - Zemgus Girgensons

40. Derrico - Matt Duchene

41. JJ - Evander Kane

42. Taro - Victor Hedman

43. Dudacek - Gabriel Landeskog

44. Freeman - Dustin Byfuglien

45. Ubkev - Ryan Kesler

46. Ubkev - Ryan McDonagh

47. Taro - Henrik Lundqvist

48. 3Putt - Blake Wheeler

49. Whisky - Ryan O'Reilly

50. TrueBlue - Marian Hossa

51. Derrico - Patrick Sharp

52. Thorny - Rick Nash

53. WildCard - Eric Staal

54. Eleven - Sam Reinhart

55. Dudacek - Ryan Suter

56. Flagg - Max Pacioretty

57. JJ - Alexander Barkov

58. Liger - Nikita Kucherov

59. Flagg - Brent Seabrook

60. WildCard -

 

Wilcard to close the second round and open the third.

[WildCard]

Hampus Lindolm and Tyler Toffoli. Really surprised Toffoli fell this far, and Lindholm looks very promising.

Edit: Thanks for keeping the updated lists going Dudacek :beer:

Did I get either of your surprise players Flagg?

[Randall Flagg]

I had Lindholm in my top 20 D.

 

I pick Jordan Eberle.

[dudacek]

We've reached an interesting point for me.

We're almost out of Pacioretty types: consensus first-liners in the 24-29 age window.

 

So do you take a Seabrook (a first-pair guy, but aging), or a Barkov (a very talented kid with uncertain upside)?

 

I think the picks could be all over the place for a while now.

Edited May 18, 2015 by dudacek

[Randall Flagg]

Hampus Lindolm and Tyler Toffoli. Really surprised Toffoli fell this far, and Lindholm looks very promising.

 

Edit: Thanks for keeping the updated lists going Dudacek :beer:

 

Did I get either of your surprise players Flagg?

No but I was ready to snag one of those later on.