tom webster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Again, what is the appeal with MacLean? MacLean had a fair amount of success, has good pedigree and was the hot coaching candidate a few years ago. I like guys like him. A lot of times its that second gig where it all comes together. In the end, I'm fine with all the names on the list as long as it's not Torts.
SabresBillsFan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I get all the Babcock hype but gee we make it sound like he's the best coach ever. A lot of us thought that Brian Burke going to Toronto would turn that team around and look what happened there. Plenty of coaches out there but I'm hoping Byslma isn't one were interested in. It's not the end of the world that he didn't come to Buffalo. I still think he wanted to have a ton of say in hockey matters and I think Toronto grossly overpaid for him. He's inheriting a mess.
North Buffalo Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Anyone for going after Jim Schoenfeld? Interim Ranger asst coach and or Scott Arniel Ranger Associate coach? Edited May 21, 2015 by North Buffalo
dudacek Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks for the Richardson work Hoss. Good info.
thewookie1 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Again, what is the appeal with MacLean? He's had far more success, on paper, than Richardson and is a seasoned coach; but would likely be willing to have Richardson on the staff.
Eleven Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 He's had far more success, on paper, than Richardson and is a seasoned coach; but would likely be willing to have Richardson on the staff. Why would Richardson... never mind.
Hoss Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) He's had far more success, on paper, than Richardson and is a seasoned coach; but would likely be willing to have Richardson on the staff. What 11 said plus how can you say MacLean has had far more success? Richardson hasn't even coached in the NHL yet. Rolston has more wins than Richardson... But I want to know the actual appeal of MacLean overall. Not how he compares to one other candidate. The actual appeal there. Flashes of Ted Nolan: http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/10/26/maclean-yanks-youth-for-experience I've seen Ottawa fans, even before MacLean was MacFired, complain about this type of coaching. Always thinking the vets were better than the skilled youngsters. A lot of complaints about scratching guys like Stone and Hoffman last year BEFORE they blew up under Cameron this year. I don't want a guy that seems stuck on vets when this team is ready for an influx of youth. I saw a complaint about the number of coaching threads, but is everybody okay with me opening up a Luke Richardson thread? We've got a Disco Dan thread and a Claude Julien thread. Edited May 21, 2015 by Hoss
X. Benedict Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I'd take Maclean with Richardson as the Assistant Coach I think it is possible, with Richardson to mentor the defense which was a perceived Maclean weakness.
beerme1 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I saw a complaint about the number of coaching threads, but is everybody okay with me opening up a Luke Richardson thread? We've got a Disco Dan thread and a Claude Julien thread. Sad you have to ask. You'll rue the day! You know people get slammed for that here. Why is beyond me though.
nfreeman Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I saw a complaint about the number of coaching threads, but is everybody okay with me opening up a Luke Richardson thread? We've got a Disco Dan thread and a Claude Julien thread. Let it rip, young fella!
Eleven Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Sad you have to ask. You'll rue the day! You know people get slammed for that here. Why is beyond me though. "Rue the day? Who talks like that?"
TrueBlueGED Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 What 11 said plus how can you say MacLean has had far more success? Richardson hasn't even coached in the NHL yet. Rolston has more wins than Richardson... But I want to know the actual appeal of MacLean overall. Not how he compares to one other candidate. The actual appeal there. Flashes of Ted Nolan: http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/10/26/maclean-yanks-youth-for-experience I've seen Ottawa fans, even before MacLean was MacFired, complain about this type of coaching. Always thinking the vets were better than the skilled youngsters. A lot of complaints about scratching guys like Stone and Hoffman last year BEFORE they blew up under Cameron this year. I don't want a guy that seems stuck on vets when this team is ready for an influx of youth. I saw a complaint about the number of coaching threads, but is everybody okay with me opening up a Luke Richardson thread? We've got a Disco Dan thread and a Claude Julien thread. I like the idea of a separate thread for each coach with a bunch of detail, then we can debate which one we want in the consolidated "Next coach" thread.
ubkev Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 "Rue the day? Who talks like that?" Remember the time I caught you naked, with that bowl of jello?
smj Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I think there is a major difference between coaching a largely veteran team and taking very young players and developing them. I'd like to know which coaches out there have a reputation for bringing along young players successfully. That's who we need right now. And I don't think Babcock was that guy anyway.
X. Benedict Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Remember the time I caught you naked, with that bowl of jello? That's what a rue is! A naked human in a bowl of jello. I was never quite sure.
Eleven Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Remember the time I caught you naked, with that bowl of jello? It was hot and I was hungry! Edited May 21, 2015 by Eleven
bg17 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 "Rue the day? Who talks like that?" Now this is some real genius.
beerme1 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 "Rue the day? Who talks like that?" I dunno. Some old white guy. Pants above the belly. Wearing a sweater and shaking his fist at some punk lol
... Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I think there is a major difference between coaching a largely veteran team and taking very young players and developing them. I'd like to know which coaches out there have a reputation for bringing along young players successfully. That's who we need right now. And I don't think Babcock was that guy anyway. Ron Rolston had that rep.
Hoss Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Ron Rolston had that rep. And so did many successful coaches. You can find many failures and many successes from each avenue. There is no one tried and true way to find a successful coach.
Huckleberry Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Nobody interested in Dineen or Cunneyworth ?
Hoss Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Nobody interested in Dineen or Cunneyworth ? No. Their resumes aren't particularly impressive and I think most have had enough of the inner circle getting jobs in Buffalo.
Stoner Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 No. Their resumes aren't particularly impressive and I think most have had enough of the inner circle getting jobs in Buffalo. Exactly. It gets hard to stomach mention of any former Sabre. What is Randy Moller doing these days?
Rasmus_ Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) As long as his name is not John Tortorella or Claude Julien, I'm relatively fine with whomever the next bench boss is. We'll see what happens. Edited May 21, 2015 by TheCerebral1
CallawaySabres Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I'll be the first one to admit that I was pretty pissed yesterday but it was not because we did not get Babcock, it was because the perception was that buffalo came in 2nd AGAIN. That anger has subsided and it really feels as though the fan base and management alike are going to be on a ,mission with this team. I don't care who the hell they get as their next coach as long as he is on the same page and REALLY wants to be here. Big name, new name...whatever. I am so ready for that next step and I think we can agree that there is no wrath like a TM/TP scorned. Buffalo has always loved the us against the world mentality and I think that will more evident now more than ever. As a season ticket holder, I am fired up and absolutely cannot wait for the opening lineup announcements as well as those Toronto games. People seem pretty fired up in these parts and I like it. The next chapter is unfolding and it is going to be a freakin' hell of a fun ride. The fans are ready to back this team and with the youthful, talented group that has been collected, these names should grow with us for a while. Time to close this thing boys, time to go get that first prize!
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