PromoTheRobot Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Early reports coming out of Toronto are that Babcock is leaning towards taking a short-term deal with Detroit, which IMO would be dumb on his part as it seems there's no long term plan there as the talent is getting past it's prime and they need to reload. What I find interesting is that former Penguins coach, Dan Bylsma, has not signed on anywhere. I wonder if the Pegula's reached out to him, told him their plans with Babcock and if that didn't work out, they would bring him in and give him a hefty raise?If I'm TP I hire Bylsma before Babcock reveals his decision. This has already taken on a LeBron-James-free-agency vibe. I don't want the team to be tarnished by Babcock turning us down. It makes any coaching hire we make look like a runner up. Didn't we just go through that with the draft lottery? Edited May 19, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 If I'm TP I hire Bylsma before Babcock reveals his decision. This had already taken on a LeBron-James-free-agency vibe. I don't want the team to be tarnished by Babcock turning us down. It makes any coaching hour we make look like a runner up. Didn't we just go through that with the draft lottery? If Babcock picks another city, some of what you write may be true. However, if Babcock remains in Detroit, effectively rejecting everyone that is not his home, our next coach does NOT look like a runner up. IMO.
wjag Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 So, in the modern era, only one coach has won Stanley Cups with more than one team, Scotty Bowman. Do we really think that Babcock is that second guy to do it? Or even Bylsma? Does this fact even matter? I'm pretty indifferent to Babs, but Bowman is a freak of nature and I just don't see that same drive in Babcock to will a team to a SC for a second time. And no offense to the womenfolk out there (especially since today is my 19th wedding anniversary), but I don't want to hear that his wife is playing a part in his decision if the goal is to win a SC. Interesting stat
Stoner Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 If I'm TP I hire Bylsma before Babcock reveals his decision. This has already taken on a LeBron-James-free-agency vibe. I don't want the team to be tarnished by Babcock turning us down. It makes any coaching hire we make look like a runner up. Didn't we just go through that with the draft lottery? It wouldn't change the perception. People would see right through it. I'm trying to hold my fire. But, geez, how many people can look at the situation in Buffalo and say, "Nah..." I'd even count Lindy and Darcy in that group.
MattPie Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 If I'm TP I hire Bylsma before Babcock reveals his decision. This has already taken on a LeBron-James-free-agency vibe. I don't want the team to be tarnished by Babcock turning us down. It makes any coaching hire we make look like a runner up. Didn't we just go through that with the draft lottery? I don't particularly care if the new coach looks like a runner-up as long as he's the right coach.
LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 There are 30 NHL head coaching jobs in the world. We really think someone will be all bitchy because they got 1 of those jobs but the team went after another guy? If that is the case I don't want Mr. Bitchy as my coach anyways.
TrueBlueGED Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 If Babcock stays what about Blashill from Grand Rapids? He immediately becomes my preferred option.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 It wouldn't change the perception. People would see right through it. I'm trying to hold my fire. But, geez, how many people can look at the situation in Buffalo and say, "Nah..." I'd even count Lindy and Darcy in that group. I admire your commitment to posting long after your credibility on this topic went up in flames.
shrader Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I'm going off McKenzie's report that Babock is staying put. If he says that on the eve of Babcock's decision, it's probably accurate. I should have been more clear. What I was hinting at there was if Babcock intends on signing a short term deal, he may very well not want to be in Detroit much longer. That would probably encourage the team to be a little more careful with Blashill and try to prolong his status as heir.
nfreeman Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 It wouldn't change the perception. People would see right through it. I'm trying to hold my fire. But, geez, how many people can look at the situation in Buffalo and say, "Nah..." I'd even count Lindy and Darcy in that group. What does this mean? That Darcy and Lindy would join the Sabres if offered jobs there?
LabattBlue Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I like how some posters are all of a sudden touting Blashill as their #1 choice if Babcock stays in Detroit. Up until a few weeks ago, I'd be shocked if more than a handful of posters had ever heard of Blashill(myself included). He wouldn't be at the top of my list. Edited May 19, 2015 by LabattBlue
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I should have been more clear. What I was hinting at there was if Babcock intends on signing a short term deal, he may very well not want to be in Detroit much longer. That would probably encourage the team to be a little more careful with Blashill and try to prolong his status as heir. I see. I don't know about the so-called "short term" deal. We'll find out soon enough I guess. But if Babcock re-signs, even for 2 years, Blashill will be gone. That's just my opinion.
Samson's Flow Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I like how some posters are all of a sudden touting Blashill as their #1 choice if Babcock stays in Detroit. Up until a few weeks ago, I'd be shocked if more than a handful of posters had ever heard of Blashill(myself included). He wouldn't be at the top of my list. Agreed. I think I would prefer a more established coach coming in. If we were to go the AHL potential route, I think that would be Rochardson based on the TM connection.
WildCard Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Bob McKenzie on TSN690 a couple hours ago: Signs pointing to Babcock staying in Detroit. gue. Edited May 19, 2015 by WildCard
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 McKenzie just tweeted to the effect that the conventional wisdom says Babcock is staying in DET . . . "But I have to tell you, based strictly on not much more than instincts, I could see Babcock ending up in BUF. Like I said, just a hunch." "If I had to bet big bucks of my own money, I'd probably wager DET. If I could lay down a loonie or twoonie with a big payoff, I'd pick BUF."
Derrico Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 As Lloyd says "So you're telling me there's a chance?!"
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Apparently it has come out that the Buffalo offer is $6 million + per year. That's also from McKenzie. You gotta love T.Pegs. At least he's trying. Edited May 19, 2015 by Kruppstahl
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 The Philly beat guy just repeated that report of a $6M per year offer. $6M!!! That would be more than Rex Ryan got. It would be more than any rostered (Sabres) player will earn.
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I like how some posters are all of a sudden touting Blashill as their #1 choice if Babcock stays in Detroit. Up until a few weeks ago, I'd be shocked if more than a handful of posters had ever heard of Blashill(myself included). He wouldn't be at the top of my list. Not sure how closely you follow hockey; Blashill has been a top up and coming coaching name for a long time.
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Apparently it has come out that the Buffalo offer is $6 million + per year. That's also from McKenzie. McKenzie? Here's where I saw it today: https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/600679437902950401 Up until a few weeks ago, I'd be shocked if more than a handful of posters had ever heard of Blashill(myself included). Not sure how closely you follow hockey; Blashill has been a top up and coming coaching name for a long time. Never a good look. I follow the game fairly closely -- never heard of the guy.
shrader Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I see. I don't know about the so-called "short term" deal. We'll find out soon enough I guess. But if Babcock re-signs, even for 2 years, Blashill will be gone. That's just my opinion. You chose an interesting term length there. 2 years is exactly what is left on Blashill's contract.
Chilly Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 I like how some posters are all of a sudden touting Blashill as their #1 choice if Babcock stays in Detroit. Up until a few weeks ago, I'd be shocked if more than a handful of posters had ever heard of Blashill(myself included). He wouldn't be at the top of my list. I'm a season ticket holder of a team that has played Grand Rapids a lot (Texas). His team's always play you tough and are always ready to go. They were the #1 team I didn't want to play in the playoffs. I think he's a really solid coach.
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 McKenzie? Here's where I saw it today: https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/600679437902950401 Never a good look. I follow the game fairly closely -- never heard of the guy. Well then he must be entirely unknown to all! You chose an interesting term length there. 2 years is exactly what is left on Blashill's contract. Holland recently said that if Babcock returns, Blashill will not be prevented from moving forward with his career. I hope he comes here, as my #2 choice Todd McLellan is off the table.
Hoss Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 From @HeleneStJames: I think Babcock's either going to stay in Detroit or go to Buffalo. If Buffalo offers 5M, I think the Wings let him go.
papazoid Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 Mike Babcock to meet with Red Wings GM once more before decision http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25189487/mike-babcock-to-meet-with-red-wings-gm-once-more-before-decision?FTAG=YHF7e3228e that's to let him know he's leaving.....
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