2016 NHL Draft

[Neo]

I'm just a big fan of this draft and the position we're in. Winning the lottery to get into the top three would've been preferred but it's nothing to cry about.

 

* snip*

 

There's very little that could happen to really upset me on day one of the draft.

 

1. Auston Matthews

2. Patrik Laine

3. Jesse Puljujarvi

4. Matthew Tkachuk

5. Pierre-Luc Dubois

6. Olli Juolevi

7. Jakob Chychrun

8. Tyson Jost

9. Alexander Nylander

10. Mikhail Sergachev

 

Give me any of those ten and I'll be happy.

Glad you're here!

[3putt]

As long as Jost are in the mix in the top 10 I of similar mind.  We will get a great prospect, who will not be expected to chip in right away, and be ready to jump in in a year or 2.  All good.

[kas23]

Ditto. I wouldn't give up Reinhart for anyone in this draft outside of possibly Matthews or Laine and even then I probably wouldn't either just because Reinhart has already proven he can succeed at this level and is versatile to play center or wing.

I wouldn't give up Reinhart, Eichel, Risto, or ROR for anyone in this draft or any current players. Anyone else would be on the table.

[Hoss]

Two questions for you Hoss:

 

Not a fan of Clayton Keller? And which d-man are you leaning towards if all are available at our pick?

I do like (not love) Keller. I stopped at 10 mainly because the next group of Keller, Brown, McLeod, Jake Bean and Max Jones is so tough to split for me. I would be somewhat disappointed if any of these players were out pick.

IF we were to somehow end up with a pick in the mid-to-late 20s I would be interested in Tyler Benson, Rasmus Asplund, Logan Stanley and Pascal Laberge.

[LGR4GM]

I'm just a big fan of this draft and the position we're in. Winning the lottery to get into the top three would've been preferred but it's nothing to cry about.

 

We could sit at eight and take pretty much anybody within a reasonable range and be happy to have them. We could make a trade up to four using something like the 8 + Pysyk base or try to get bold and move up to 3 if GMTM can do it without giving up Reinhart (doubtful and I wouldn't do it if they require Reinhart in the deal).

 

I think trading down a couple spots is the only option I don't like purely because I think it'd net us another second at best which isn't something I'm interested in.

I WOULD, however, be interested in a deal with Anaheim centered around 8 for 24 and Fowler (would need another piece on our end) or 8+ to St. Louis for Shattenkirk. There's some wingers around the league I'd be interested in, too.

There's very little that could happen to really upset me on day one of the draft.

 

1. Auston Matthews

2. Patrik Laine

3. Jesse Puljujarvi

4. Matthew Tkachuk

5. Pierre-Luc Dubois

6. Olli Juolevi

7. Jakob Chychrun

8. Tyson Jost

9. Alexander Nylander

10. Mikhail Sergachev

 

Give me any of those ten and I'll be happy.

 

[Hoss]

[Thorner]

Missed your insight around here, Hoss.

 

I agree with your list, too, except I bump Nylander up to 6.

 

Also, Tkachuk just scored the Memorial Cup wining goal. Please let us trade to 4.

[dudacek]

Dylan Larkin, Max Domi, Filip Forsberg, Jaden Schwartz, Vladimir Tarasenko, Jordan Eberle, Max Pacioretty...

Most drafts have a legitimate first line forward that is ranked in the teens for some perceived flaw in his game

 

Who is this year: Keller, Jost, McLeod, Bellows...?

[WildCard]

I do like (not love) Keller. I stopped at 10 mainly because the next group of Keller, Brown, McLeod, Jake Bean and Max Jones is so tough to split for me. I would be somewhat disappointed if any of these players were out pick.

IF we were to somehow end up with a pick in the mid-to-late 20s I would be interested in Tyler Benson, Rasmus Asplund, Logan Stanley and Pascal Laberge.

I meant out of Serg, Chrychun, and Juolevi. 

 

Curious though, is it Keller's size, or simply that you like those other players more?

[3putt]

Dylan Larkin, Max Domi, Filip Forsberg, Jaden Schwartz, Vladimir Tarasenko, Jordan Eberle, Max Pacioretty...

Most drafts have a legitimate first line forward that is ranked in the teens for some perceived flaw in his game

 

Who is this year: Keller, Jost, McLeod, Bellows...?

Yes.

[dudacek]

Anyone else open to swapping eight and 38 to the Bruins for 14 and 23, then maybe trying to move up from 23?

23 is right about where this one drops off, but I would match rather have two of the guys ranked in the teens than what we're likely to get at 8 and 38. I really like the talent in the teens.

[TrueBlueGED]

Anyone else open to swapping eight and 38 to the Bruins for 14 and 23, then maybe trying to move up from 23?

23 is right about where this one drops off, but I would match rather have two of the guys ranked in the teens than what we're likely to get at 8 and 38. I really like the talent in the teens.

 

[thewookie1]

Anyone else open to swapping eight and 38 to the Bruins for 14 and 23, then maybe trying to move up from 23?

23 is right about where this one drops off, but I would match rather have two of the guys ranked in the teens than what we're likely to get at 8 and 38. I really like the talent in the teens.

 

No, quality trumps quantity in this situation. We have a better chance of none of the good D being there at 14 than finding a diamond at 23.

[dudacek]

No, quality trumps quantity in this situation. We have a better chance of none of the good D being there at 14 than finding a diamond at 23.

If we play our cards right, we could get one of Brown, Jost, McLeod, Gauthier, Bellows and Jones

And one of Chychrun (or another top nine guy who drops. He's just the most likely) Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, and Stanley

[thewookie1]

If we play our cards right, we could get one of Brown, Jost, McLeod, Gauthier, Bellows and Jones

And one of Chychrun (or another top nine guy who drops. He's just the most likely) Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, and Stanley

 

Yes but none of them are as good as the top guys, I'd rather have 1 Great prospect than 2 good ones. 

Edited May 30, 2016 by thewookie1

[dudacek]

Yes but none of them are as good as the top guys, I'd rather have 1 Great prospect than 2 good ones.

 

Here's the thing, I don't think Nylander and Chychrun are going to be that much better NHL players than, say, Gauthier and Bean.

[TrueBlueGED]

If we play our cards right, we could get one of Brown, Jost, McLeod, Gauthier, Bellows and Jones

And one of Chychrun (or another top nine guy who drops. He's just the most likely) Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, and Stanley

 

 

Here's the thing, I don't think Nylander and Chychrun are going to be that much better NHL players than, say, Gauthier and Bean.

 

I honestly don't think I've ever disagreed so strongly with you. Trading down is the one thing in the draft that would infuriate me. 

 

Edit: To elaborate, this is the last time we're likely to be drafting top-10 for quite some time. Meanwhile, mid-teens prospects/picks are regularly traded (relatively speaking, anyway) when good teams have to free cap space and whatnot. What's that saying about the team that gets the best player wins the trade? Whoever we take at #8 is quite a bit more likely to be better than both 14 and 20 or whatever it would end up being. I think you're getting too cute with this.

Edited May 30, 2016 by TrueBlueGED

[dudacek]

Actually I am getting way too cute.

The guide I was reading had the Bruins picking at 14 and 23.

I just now realized that 23 was the Sharks pick. No better than 29th now.

My post is moot.

 

 

For sake of argument though, I am almost always about getting the best player. It's why I've been on board with GMTM's style of "overpaying."

I think when we are looking back in this draft we will find many of the guys ranked in the teens are better than the guys ranked around eight. Thus the idea of moving down and still getting our guy.

 

Some of you are going to when Fabbro or Bean or Gauthier or McAvoy or Jost is our pick at eight.

It's going to happen.

Edited May 30, 2016 by dudacek

[TrueBlueGED]

Actually I am getting way too cute.

The guide I was reading had the Bruins picking at 14 and 23.

I just now realized that 23 was the Sharks pick. No better than 29th now.

My post is moot.

 

 

For sake of argument though, I am almost always about getting the best player.

I think when we are looking back in this draft we will find many of the guys ranked in the teens are better than the guys ranked around eight. Thus the idea of moving down and still getting our guy.

 

Some of you are going to ###### when Fabbro or Bean or Gauthier or McAvoy or Jost is our pick at eight.

It's going to happen.

 

1) Probably, but since there's no way to know that in advance...

 

2) I'd actually be fine with Jost. Though yes, I would flip with any of the others mentioned :lol:

[Thorner]

Anyone else open to swapping eight and 38 to the Bruins for 14 and 23, then maybe trying to move up from 23?

23 is right about where this one drops off, but I would match rather have two of the guys ranked in the teens than what we're likely to get at 8 and 38. I really like the talent in the teens.

 

If we play our cards right, we could get one of Brown, Jost, McLeod, Gauthier, Bellows and Jones

And one of Chychrun (or another top nine guy who drops. He's just the most likely) Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, and Stanley

Yup I was going to post, if we can get, say, Jost and Bean, I may be interested. I really like Jost. It would come down to....

 

Here's the thing, I don't think Nylander and Chychrun are going to be that much better NHL players than, say, Gauthier and Bean.

 

....this. I disagree on Nylander. I have him up at 6. Really like him. If he's gonna be there at 8, I wouldn't want the trade. But if he's going to be gone, getting Jost and Bean would be intriguing. But there's no way of knowing if Nylander will be there at 8.

 

Actually I am getting way too cute.

The guide I was reading had the Bruins picking at 14 and 23.

I just now realized that 23 was the Sharks pick. No better than 29th now.

My post is moot.

Aaaaaaaaaand never mind :) Edited May 30, 2016 by Thorny

[Rasmus_]

Actually I am getting way too cute.

The guide I was reading had the Bruins picking at 14 and 23.

I just now realized that 23 was the Sharks pick. No better than 29th now.

My post is moot.

 

 

For sake of argument though, I am almost always about getting the best player. It's why I've been on board with GMTM's style of "overpaying."

I think when we are looking back in this draft we will find many of the guys ranked in the teens are better than the guys ranked around eight. Thus the idea of moving down and still getting our guy.

 

Some of you are going to ###### when Fabbro or Bean or Gauthier or McAvoy or Jost is our pick at eight.

It's going to happen.

 

There is not a whole lot of difference between Fabbro, Bean, McAvoy, Dineen, and several other D from the upper 3.  However, there is raw talent that may equivocally bet he difference.  It's getting closer by the day!  I cannot wait!  Either way, if we select a piece for the near future or trade it for hopefully a (Lindholm type young piece) draft day will be exciting.  Drafting Chychrun and trading up to get Max Jones is still my realistic dream.  Though Tkachuk proved again the ability to produce when all the cards are on the table!  

[Norcal]

There is not a whole lot of difference between Fabbro, Bean, McAvoy, Dineen, and several other D from the upper 3.  However, there is raw talent that may equivocally bet he difference.  It's getting closer by the day!  I cannot wait!  Either way, if we select a piece for the near future or trade it for hopefully a (Lindholm type young piece) draft day will be exciting.  Drafting Chychrun and trading up to get Max Jones is still my realistic dream.  Though Tkachuk proved again the ability to produce when all the cards are on the table!

 

Max Jones was very visible in that championship game, he flashed a ton of speed and tenaciousness. It will be semi surprising if he's not gone be pick 20.

[dudacek]

Max Jones was very visible in that championship game, he flashed a ton of speed and tenaciousness. It will be semi surprising if he's not gone be pick 20.

Max Jones and Julien Gauthier would be getting a lot more talk in a shallower draft year.

Big wingers who can skate, hit and score are usually in high demand and often overdrafted.

Is either any less of a prospect than Lawson Crouse last year?

[LGR4GM]

Max Jones and Julien Gauthier would be getting a lot more talk in a shallower draft year.

Big wingers who can skate, hit and score are usually in high demand and often overdrafted.

Is either any less of a prospect than Lawson Crouse last year?

They compare to Crouse. Guathier's 41goals in 54 games is nice but I am always cautious of Q scoring. 

[Rasmus_]

Max Jones was very visible in that championship game, he flashed a ton of speed and tenaciousness. It will be semi surprising if he's not gone be pick 20.

 

I would be moving up into the teens to grab him.  IMO.  I wasn't expecting him to last to 38.  :P  I love his tenacity and his ability.   I think he can be more than a Tom Wilson for sure.