Rasmus_ Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I was originally skeptical of Boeser last season, but man LG, you were right, so I won't doubt you anymore. He was one of my favorite college players to watch this season. Close to only Werenski, Connor and Vesey. Quote
French Collection Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I realize what you're saying about puck moving D. I agree we don't need any Hal Gill types in this day and age. I was thinking more along the lines of Vlasic from the Sharks, who is a top 4 on a good team and was on Team Canada for the last Olympics. Never gets any press but obviously well respected. Checking his stats surprised me because he is getting some points, 39 this year, career best. He did get over a point a game in his last year in the Q as well. You may be on to something there, where scouts don't look for the Rod Langways, the coaches develop them into those roles once they turn pro. Quote
Derrico Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Keller at 4! I love Keller! Not sure if I #4 overall love Keller, but nice to see a major voice give him some recognition. Interesting that neither Chychrun nor Sergachev make the cut. Below is a great write up on Keller. To be honest I've just kind of ignored him due to his smaller size and therefore thinking TM won't take him. Sounds like an unreal talent. But after the Ennis head injuries I would worry about a guy this small making it in the league. http://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2016/5/9/11635216/small-point-machine-clayton-keller-2016-nhl-draft-prospect-profile Quote
Randall Flagg Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Below is a great write up on Keller. To be honest I've just kind of ignored him due to his smaller size and therefore thinking TM won't take him. Sounds like an unreal talent. But after the Ennis head injuries I would worry about a guy this small making it in the league. http://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2016/5/9/11635216/small-point-machine-clayton-keller-2016-nhl-draft-prospect-profile Lindros had tons of concussion problems and he was a giant. The question is if Keller is slippery like Gaudreau or Kane. If he doesn't put himself in dangerous positions, his size won't matter, and that's true for any player, no matter what size. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Lindros had tons of concussion problems and he was a giant. The question is if Keller is slippery like Gaudreau or Kane. If he doesn't put himself in dangerous positions, his size won't matter, and that's true for any player, no matter what size. Keller's skating is considered some of the best in this class. Quote
Derrico Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Keller's skating is considered some of the best in this class. Ya I've never really considered him but the more I read the more I would get excited about that pick. Murray has always preached BPA at the draft so I feel good about that. If he thinks the Dmen available at our pick can become top pairing guys to play with Risto then I'll feel great about taking a D. But the forwards in this draft seem deep and very skilled. I would hate to see us take a Zach Bogosian with so many high end forward prospects on the board just because our weakness today is on D. Quote
dudacek Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 I realize what you're saying about puck moving D. I agree we don't need any Hal Gill types in this day and age. I was thinking more along the lines of Vlasic from the Sharks, who is a top 4 on a good team and was on Team Canada for the last Olympics. Never gets any press but obviously well respected. Checking his stats surprised me because he is getting some points, 39 this year, career best. He did get over a point a game in his last year in the Q as well. You may be on to something there, where scouts don't look for the Rod Langways, the coaches develop them into those roles once they turn pro. Vlasic considered one of the four best Canadian defenceman in the world, according to the hockey Canada brain trust. Ahead of PK Subban and Brent Burns Below is a great write up on Keller. To be honest I've just kind of ignored him due to his smaller size and therefore thinking TM won't take him. Sounds like an unreal talent. But after the Ennis head injuries I would worry about a guy this small making it in the league. http://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2016/5/9/11635216/small-point-machine-clayton-keller-2016-nhl-draft-prospect-profile This is exactly the kind of guy I see Murray "reaching" for. A guy with perceived question marks that Murray thinks has "it". Our GM is not scared of swinging hard for a guy he believes in. Quote
Taro T Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Vlasic considered one of the four best Canadian defenceman in the world, according to the hockey Canada brain trust. Ahead of PK Subban and Brent Burns This is exactly the kind of guy I see Murray "reaching" for. A guy with perceived question marks that Murray thinks has "it". Our GM is not scared of swinging hard for a guy he believes in. True. Just wish NS had shouted a little louder @ him about grabbing Drouin when he was available. ;) ALL's I want for Christmas is Fowler, Drouin, & Chychrun. :( (Though truthfully, if the Sabres do land Chychrun his falling to 8 is concerning. Memories of Cooper & Grigorenko. 1 of which I was glad they got. 1 not so much. Maybe 3rd times the charm? :)) Quote
Rasmus_ Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 True. Just wish NS had shouted a little louder @ him about grabbing Drouin when he was available. ;) ALL's I want for Christmas is Fowler, Drouin, & Chychrun. :( (Though truthfully, if the Sabres do land Chychrun his falling to 8 is concerning. Memories of Cooper & Grigorenko. 1 of which I was glad they got. 1 not so much. Maybe 3rd times the charm? :)) I don't see Drouin going anywhere any longer. You probably could get Fowler without trading #8, but it would be a heavy price in most cases. Quote
Taro T Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 I don't see Drouin going anywhere any longer. You probably could get Fowler without trading #8, but it would be a heavy price in most cases. Thus the "smiley." No way this off season plays out the way I'd hoped. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Thus the "smiley." No way this off season plays out the way I'd hoped. Man, I cannot read into things well. That was so obvious the second time I read it. LOL! I'm hopeless, just like my wife says. Quote
kas23 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 This is exactly the kind of guy I see Murray "reaching" for. A guy with perceived question marks that Murray thinks has "it". Our GM is not scared of swinging hard for a guy he believes in. Great post. I'm confident GMTM will grab a great player, even if he's considered a reach by many. He apparently really wanted Larkin in 2014, a player 14 teams passed on in the 1st. If GMTM picks a player people aren't discussing as a "top 10 talent", so be it. Quote
Taro T Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Man, I cannot read into things well. That was so obvious the second time I read it. LOL! I'm hopeless, just like my wife says. :lol: 's all good man. :beer: Quote
Derrico Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 it Clayton Keller is my pick. The d have too many questions. This kid could be a grand slam. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 ###### it Clayton Keller is my pick. The d have too many questions. This kid could be a grand slam. My man! :beer: Quote
ct fab Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Keller looks great but not sure if gmtm takes a small player? Guess it depends on his ratings if the dmen that will be available there. I'll tell you though, Keller looks better than Nylander and would look great on Eichel's wing along with reinhart. He has that BU connection with Jack too Quote
Derrico Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Keller looks great but not sure if gmtm takes a small player? Guess it depends on his ratings if the dmen that will be available there. I'll tell you though, Keller looks better than Nylander and would look great on Eichel's wing along with reinhart. He has that BU connection with Jack too The size is what would make it surprising if it's the pick. But....gmtm seems to really value hockey iq and this guy has it in spades. Watching a lot of his highlights and this guy is Sam Reinhart smart. Only an inch shorter than Marner and very similar type whom went 4th overall last year. He's also one of the younger players in the draft so there's a chance he even grows another inch. I get the competition he's playing against isn't the best of the best but he's putting up video game numbers. Quote
Brawndo Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Keller is the pick. Grab a LHD in UFA or via trade. Let him play a year for BU to continue his growth, get him into a professional conditioning program as well Edited May 15, 2016 by BRAWNDO Quote
Thorner Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Keller is the pick. Grab a LHD in UFA or via trade. Let him play a year for BU to continue his growth, get him into a professional conditioning program as well At least we know if Murray does want him, he'll be available at 8. Not sure the best place to put this, and there's a few head-scratchers in the article, but this is a TSN write-up on our offseason game plan that makes reference to Keller in the draft section: http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-buffalo-sabres-1.488687 A good article, overall. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Pronman's full top 100 for those without Insider: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/top-100-prospects-2016-nhl-draft/story?id=39091742 Quote
WildCard Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) I'm jumping onto this Keller train while it's still rolling. His highlights are unreal; go to the 40s mark for an absurd pass, the 5:14 mark to see how this mentality, and the entire first minute is just absurd. You really should take the time out of your day to watch this video. In the words of the analyst (McKenzie?), Keller is simply brilliant. He will purposefully manipulate plays into happening with misdirection to get a defender to move this way or that so his guy can get open. Fast, good shot, great stick handling, and just beautiful vision. If you want BPA, this is it. If he's 6'++, he's a top 5 pick. By the way, you know who else is 5'10? Patrick Kane Edited May 16, 2016 by WildCard Quote
dudacek Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 This Keller hype has finally raised my excitement level for the draft. Quote
... Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 He reads like he can be Ennis' replacement. I like that. Quote
Thorner Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 He's not generally regarded as ~8th overall in the draft though, so if this is the guy we want, we better be hoping Murray and his team see this thing quite a bit differently from those making the lists. I'd say it's unlikely we end up with Keller. Saying nothing of my high opinion of him as a prospect. Quote
WildCard Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 He's not generally regarded as ~8th overall in the draft though, so if this is the guy we want, we better be hoping Murray and his team see this thing quite a bit differently from those making the lists. I'd say it's unlikely we end up with Keller. Saying nothing of my high opinion of him as a prospect.What is he regarded as then? Every mock and rankings I've seen have him 8-13. I would consider trading up for him though. Worst case is he's taken and we get Serg or Juolevi Quote
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