2016 NHL Draft

[WildCard]

thats a big assumption. I know they had issues with Zadorov but to completely bypass a guy because of where he was born would be a mistake IMO

I'm not sure it's where he was born but the hockey taught where he comes from. 

[SwampD]

I'm not sure it's where he was born but the hockey taught where he comes from. 

Yep, Cause DD likes the dump and chase.

 

:devil:

[Hoss]

He has drafted Russians, but I believe it was a very low number. Something like two or three. I'll look it up.

[Hoss]

He drafted Ivan Chukarov who is the son of two Russian parents, including a Russian professional boxer. He was part of the group that drafted Ruslan Bashkirov in Ottawa. Hard to tell how big of an influence he had on draft decisions before.

[Derrico]

He drafted Ivan Chukarov who is the son of two Russian parents, including a Russian professional boxer. He was part of the group that drafted Ruslan Bashkirov in Ottawa. Hard to tell how big of an influence he had on draft decisions before.

Born in the Good ol U S of A as you know.

 

So maybe one player.  But even that was in 2007.  He started working for Ottawa in 2007.  I'm assuming he joined before the draft?

[Crusader1969]

Dobber sports did a poll of 15 writers and scouts and ranked prospects by their future value, probability of success and how quickly they will contribute in the NHL

 

1) Matthews - NHL Comparable Malkin

2) Laine - NHL Comparable Ovechkin 

The best pure goal scorer available in an entry draft in over a decade who shoots off the pass with near-perfect accuracy. – Steve Kournianos, Draft Analyst

3) Puljujarvi - NHL Comparable Mats Sundin  

 He has the physical stature to handle the league immediately

4) Tkchuck - NHL Comparable Jamie Benn

5) Nylander - 

"Exceptional skill set much like his brother, can create offense out of nothing. Will need to get stronger to be effective at pro level"

6) Chychrun -NHL Comparable Duncan Keith

7) Dubois - NHL Comparable Patrick Marleau

"Pierre-Luc Dubois has the size and versatility to find his way into an NHL lineup quickly"

8) McLeod - Comparable Ryan Kessler

"Has more offensive potential than people seem to suggest he does. Plays the power game the way NHL teams want their centers to now. Just needs to improve his finishing ability, but he creates a ton of chances and will only get better". – OHL Prospects

Edited February 16, 2016 by Crusader1969

[WildCard]

Well, that is one hell of a comparison for Laine, Tkchuck, and Chychrun. Sounds like we could have some sweet talent coming, as long as we pick top 10, which I have faith we will

[Hoss]

Crusader can you please start linking this stuff? I'd like to have a look at most of the stuff you post but you never link it.

Those comparable have to be style of play as opposed to projection.

[Crusader1969]

Here you go:

 

http://www.dobberprospects.com/fantasy-ranking-draft-eligible-prospects/

 

I still can't stop thinking that Laine would be the perfect compliment for Eichel. Though, no matter where they finish, they will need luck to get the 2nd pick.

 

I would say as long as they draft in top 8.  However, if you want help for the team next season  you are probably looking at top 3

Edited February 16, 2016 by Crusader1969

[Weave]

Crusader can you please start linking this stuff? I'd like to have a look at most of the stuff you post but you never link it.

Those comparable have to be style of play as opposed to projection.

 

It has to be style of play.  The #22 projected player is being compared to Datsyuk, and #24 to Zetterberg.  There are like 4 probable Hofers in those comparables.  Ther ain't no 4 HoFers in the upcoming draft.

[Crusader1969]

It has to be style of play.  The #22 projected player is being compared to Datsyuk, and #24 to Zetterberg.  There are like 4 probable Hofers in those comparables.  Ther ain't no 4 HoFers in the upcoming draft.

 

 

definitely style of play.

[Eleven]

 

Dobber sports did a poll of 15 writers and scouts and ranked prospects by their future value, probability of success and how quickly they will contribute in the NHL

 

1) Matthews - NHL Comparable Malkin

2) Laine - NHL Comparable Ovechkin 

The best pure goal scorer available in an entry draft in over a decade who shoots off the pass with near-perfect accuracy. – Steve Kournianos, Draft Analyst

3) Puljujarvi - NHL Comparable Mats Sundin  

 He has the physical stature to handle the league immediately

4) Tkchuck - NHL Comparable Jamie Benn

5) Nylander - 

"Exceptional skill set much like his brother, can create offense out of nothing. Will need to get stronger to be effective at pro level"

6) Chychrun -NHL Comparable Duncan Keith

7) Dubois - NHL Comparable Patrick Marleau

"Pierre-Luc Dubois has the size and versatility to find his way into an NHL lineup quickly"

8) McLeod - Comparable Ryan Kessler

"Has more offensive potential than people seem to suggest he does. Plays the power game the way NHL teams want their centers to now. Just needs to improve his finishing ability, but he creates a ton of chances and will only get better". – OHL Prospects

 

 

I'm sorry to on your post, but this is so overly optimistic for every one of them.

[Crusader1969]

its not really anything to do with me.

 

Here is a link to the website if you wish to complain:

 

http://www.dobberprospects.com/contact/

[inkman]

I'm sorry to ###### on your post, but this is so overly optimistic for every one of them.

You mean there aren't 8 hall of famers waiting to be drafted sequentially for all this year?

[Eleven]

You mean there aren't 8 hall of famers waiting to be drafted sequentially for all this year?

 

Well, in normal years, yeah, that's about it.  But this year, I just feel it's a little weaker than 8 HOFs.

[Thorner]

Well, in normal years, yeah, that's about it.  But this year, I just feel it's a little weaker than 8 HOFs.

 

Haha, ya, they pretty much do this every year though, it almost feels unfair to the players. Draft eligibles are always saddled with these comparisons that are obviously nearly impossible to live up to, in most cases.

[Hoss]

After looking at that site I think it's a terrible source of imformation. Seems like the "writers" have watched a handful of NBC games and then just compare players to the few they remember. Branch out a little bit.

 

Hell, I compared Zadorov to "a smooth skating John Scott" in his draft year. Clearly I wasn't a fan but that's probably going to end up as being as accurate as comparing the number 22 pick to Datsyuk.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Hoss

[Eleven]

After looking at that site I think it's a terrible source of imformation. Seems like the "writers" have watched a handful of NBC games and then just compare players to the few they remember. Branch out a little bit.

 

Hell, I compared Zadorov to "a smooth skating John Scott" in his draft year. Clearly I wasn't a fan but that's probably going to end up as being as accurate as comparing the number 22 pick to Datsyuk.

 

See, you missed.  Zadorov is really a smooth sleeping John Scott.

[Crusader1969]

After looking at that site I think it's a terrible source of imformation. Seems like the "writers" have watched a handful of NBC games and then just compare players to the few they remember. Branch out a little bit.

 

Hell, I compared Zadorov to "a smooth skating John Scott" in his draft year. Clearly I wasn't a fan but that's probably going to end up as being as accurate as comparing the number 22 pick to Datsyuk.

 

 

not sure I agree, its similar to Bob Mckenzie's rankings in that all they did was survey a bunch of hockey writers and NHL scouts to rank the prospects. The NHL comparable is just "plays in the style of" not to be taken literally that this is the next Datsyuk. 

 

The hockey writers aren't just some hockey blogger like you find on Hockeybuzz (no offense to any of them) but are guys who run sites as independent scouts, many of them are well known and highly regarded.

[Crusader1969]

Future Considerations releases Feb rankings:

 

includes a nice write up on one of my favorites if Sabres draft lower than 5th in Pierre-Luc Dubois.

 

http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-february-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/

[Derrico]

Future Considerations releases Feb rankings:

 

includes a nice write up on one of my favorites if Sabres draft lower than 5th in Pierre-Luc Dubois.

 

http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-february-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/

Thanks for the info.  Outside of the top 5, Dubois and Gauthier both seem like guys that TM likes to draft.  Both are big, power forward type guys.  Gauthier was getting a ton of attention prior to the WJC but he really disappointed in that tourney and I haven't seen as much written about him since then.  I kept waiting for him to step up for Canada in the tourney and he never really did.

[Crusader1969]

Thanks for the info.  Outside of the top 5, Dubois and Gauthier both seem like guys that TM likes to draft.  Both are big, power forward type guys.  Gauthier was getting a ton of attention prior to the WJC but he really disappointed in that tourney and I haven't seen as much written about him since then.  I kept waiting for him to step up for Canada in the tourney and he never really did.

 

 

I messaged Corey Pronman (ESPN) a week ago for his opinion on who would fit better on Eichel`s wing - Dubois or Gauthier.

 

He replied `Dubois cause he is a much better` 

[Derrico]

I messaged Corey Pronman (ESPN) a week ago for his opinion on who would fit better on Eichel`s wing - Dubois or Gauthier.

 

He replied `Dubois cause he is a much better` 

Hahhahaha nice.  Based on write-ups though you would think it's the opposite.  I haven't seen either play for extended periods of time myself though.  There's just something tantalizing about Gauthier being 6'4 and having plus skating.  He is described similar as Pavel Zacha who I wanted the Sabres to trade up for last year.  The writeup on Dubois is his skating isn't nearly where Gauthier's is at.

 

Usually if we can't make the playoffs I'd prefer we get the highest draft pick possible.  But this year seems pretty deep.  I'd prefer a top 7 pick but really anyone in the top 10 should have a pretty high ceiling.  Murray was saying earlier on GR that it's a deeper draft then last year.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Derrico

[Crusader1969]

Dubois is definitely making noise and i can't imagine him out of the top 10 in any ranking of the top prospects.

 

How poorly all the Canadian teams are playing I can't see the Sabres drafting higher than 7th at this point (assuming they don't win the lottery).

 

http://capebretoneagles.com/article/eagles-rout-mooseheads-9-2-

[Crusader1969]

Another day and another prospect rank

 

This one from SportsNet

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/sportsnets-top-30-2016-nhl-draft-prospects-february/

Craig Button today on TSN Radio

 

"I see Matthews more in the line of Eichel than McDavid. McDavid has shown he is truly a generational player. Matthews will be a dominant centre. He isn't the best 18 year old in the Swiss league, he is the best player."