IKnowPhysics Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 According to TBN, GMTM wasn't at the game last night, he was watching McDavid's (and Baptiste's) opener in the OHL playoffs in Erie. Quote
Patty16 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Bucky was right in one way: the discord is because we're losing. I have followed the Sabres since their inception and Buffalo fans always demonstrate rabid support of the team when they win. We are CRAZY GOOD fans when the team has talent and demonstrates effort... and makes the playoffs. Traditionally, in down years, we understand some re-tooling is needed, but the expectation is that we're back on a playoff ride in short order. This situation is different. From the moment Ryan Miller was crushed by Lucic, the house of cards came down. Darcy's version of a core-less, near spineless "team" was revealed for all to see. I advocated then and advocate today the need to strip it all down and start over. Finish the tank. Get the pick. And then WIN. The love-fest of being a rabid Sabres fans gets re-ignited when we are competitive and make the playoffs again. Same here, while they def had some talent they most certainly lacked in character or sandpaper. There was no real leadership or someone willing to step up on the ice, Quote
K8prisoner Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 It gets worse for Bucky, a listener emailed one of his GM for a day columns from a few years back where he lambasted DR for not doing enough to ensure a finish at the bottom of the standings and with a better draft pick. buckys cornerstone of wisdom shifts daily with the winds of public opinion as he embodies weakness to guide those adrift truly onto the rocks... Quote
bunomatic Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 According to TBN, GMTM wasn't at the game last night, he was watching McDavid's (and Baptiste's) opener in the OHL playoffs in Erie. Score ? Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 never mind I got it http://media.wgr550.com/a/103684907/327-howard-loses-it-over-tbn-column.htm?q=Bucky+Gleason Quote
WildCard Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 never mind I got it http://media.wgr550.com/a/103684907/327-howard-loses-it-over-tbn-column.htm?q=Bucky+Gleason I was gonna ask for it too, thanks for finding it. Quote
... Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Howard Simon's rant. He sums up half of the SS conversations in under 8 minutes: http://media.wgr550.com/a/103684907/327-howard-loses-it-over-tbn-column.htm Quote
Crusader1969 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 The Sabres organization deserved a kick in the a** from the fans last night. They've been cheating the fans out of their $ the last two years and yet the fans have showed up. This represented to me a revolt of sorts. The only thing I regret that our bass-ackwards development systems puts players on the ice who are too young and they had to experience the fan reaction. This might have made a very bad impression on the younger developing players like Zadorov, Grigo, Risto, Larsson etc. This is not what it's all about. On another note I think Hackett is toast as a Sabre. The fans cheering for the Coyotes last night were actually cheering for the future of the Sabres. They were not trying to show up the organization - in actuality they were applauding managements ability to stick with and complete the task at hand. The Sabres haven't cheated the fans out of anything - they were told going into this what to expect. Id say the year after year after year of mediocrity was a way bigger scam. And all those kids you are so worried about will benefit directly from the "tank" as they will soon have world class teammates. Apples and oranges? I know Bucky took a very hard-line, nevernevernever stance on the issue. But making some managerial decisions to "tank" at the end of a season that began with playoff aspirations is a whole different animal than what Regier started and Murray is finishing, innit? Which is why next year could also be very interesting. Play off aspirations? haha thats the funniest thing I've read in ages. Quote
... Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 perfect... just do it in a humble fashion so we dont wake our sh!t team up the last 8 games and have to endure another year of this crap... I thought they've been playing hard and trying all season. You mean they have more to give? Quote
inkman Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Heartfelt and honest they may have been. Doesn't mean they're not also hilariously tone-deaf and insulting to those who chose to spend their money to attend the game. Which, and I can't stress this enough, the Sabres lost because of him. Not entirely Quote
Claude Balls Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Andrew Peters just lost it. Called out Howard, Schopp and BD about them being in the media and encouraging fans to root for the tank. Sylvester had to calm him down when he started bringing Simon's kid into the situation. Not good at WGR today. Quote
pastajoe Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 If Weber doesn't like playing in front of Buffalo paying customers, he should go to Murray and request he trade him after the season. I'm sure he would be accommodated. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Apples and oranges? I know Bucky took a very hard-line, nevernevernever stance on the issue. But making some managerial decisions to "tank" at the end of a season that began with playoff aspirations is a whole different animal than what Regier started and Murray is finishing, innit? I'm confused by your ambiguous antecedents there. Edited March 27, 2015 by That Aud Smell Quote
Assquatch Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 And Bucky's partner in crime Jerry Sullivan is the one who coined the derisive phrase "heroic run to 9th place". :blush: Oops finally listened to Howard's rant. He made the same point. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Apples and oranges? I know Bucky took a very hard-line, nevernevernever stance on the issue. But making some managerial decisions to "tank" at the end of a season that began with playoff aspirations is a whole different animal than what Regier started and Murray is finishing, innit? I'd hate to play Twister against you. You're quite the contortionist. Edited March 27, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik Quote
Stoner Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 I'd hate to play Twister against you. You'are quite the contortionist. Also, I swore off anti-perspirant in '86. Aluminum. I'm confused by your ambiguous antecedents there. Oh, I'm all man, sailor. Play off aspirations? haha thats the funniest thing I've read in ages. Not this year, the year Bucky criticized Darcy for not tanking at the end. 2009? 2012? Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Apples and oranges? I know Bucky took a very hard-line, nevernevernever stance on the issue. But making some managerial decisions to "tank" at the end of a season that began with playoff aspirations is a whole different animal than what Regier started and Murray is finishing, innit? Which is why next year could also be very interesting. Only a fool would conduct a tank the way you just suggested. The best things in life are hard earned not half assed. Quote
Hoss Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Howard's rant was fantastic. Really well done and it got every single point down on why this is a necessary evil. Telling a group of people their values are compromised because of how they cheer at a sporting event is foolish and weak. Bucky just wants to look like the ass with great morals just because there is a lot of national media picking on Buffalo fans today... Yet he has been pro-tank in the past. I've spoken with Peters on numerous occasions over the course of this season about the tank, and he is obviously very anti-tank as a former player. His opinion isn't any deeper than the basic 'you should always give your best effort to win as a player and a decision maker in professional sports.' Quote
dudacek Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 And correct me if I am wrong, their coach has preached all year about he has had"passengers" , even said post game last night he had some guys who were not "ready to Play". Lost in all this big picture discussion, it looked like Cody Hodgson apparently wasn't one of them. After Ennis went down it looked like coy played on the second line until the bitter end. Sure it was only 11:09 ice time, but it was more than Dalpe, Varone and Kaleta and almost as much as Desauriers. (Of course Teddy might have been referring to Nikita — 9:46) Quote
Stoner Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Only a fool would conduct a tank the way you just suggested. The best things in life are hard earned not half assed. GMs of preseason playoff favorites make moves that hurt their teams in the short term all the time at the trade deadline and beyond. Quote
Tondas Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 I liked Simon's line, "Boy, Ennis is good. Now get him off the ice because he's killing me!" Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 I posted it last night on WGR's Facebook link to Paul Hamilton's article. I see that someone posted it again on another WGR photo this morning. Dude, that went viral. I think it's the strongest rebuttal for Weber's boo-hoo that I've seen. It makes Buffalo fans look passionate yet intelligent. The more sophisticated response was to stay quiet and leave the game with a smile on my face. Good for you. But if all the fans had done that the Sabres would have played to an empty arena which would have sent a worse message. What did I do? Apparently it wasn't you. Someone quoted Assquatch's post onto Facebook, identified as a Sabres fan in Nashville. The level of acrimony will dwindle for sure but the tank vs. Anti tank will always lurk below the surface. Next year, people calling out others for being tankers or anti-tankers will be roundly ostracized. What happens in 2014-2015, stays in 2014-2015. Quote
Brawndo Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Posted March 27, 2015 This tweet sums things up nicely @wyshynski: NHL players are the 1st guys to toss emotional investment, loyalty to fans aside for "business decisions." That's all BUF fans did last nite Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Our fans are passionate. We have a terrible team. What other team's fans have embraced losing and a rebuild like us with such enthusiasm? Those fans last night were at least educated fans having a good time while watching weber be a bad hockey player. The reason a drastic rebuild is an option for Buffalo is because our fans can tolerate it. If he didn't like what happened, then the alternative was to boo him for being such a dumbass Edited March 27, 2015 by Vlad Dangerslakov Quote
rickshaw Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Lost in all this big picture discussion, it looked like Cody Hodgson apparently wasn't one of them. After Ennis went down it looked like coy played on the second line until the bitter end. Sure it was only 11:09 ice time, but it was more than Dalpe, Varone and Kaleta and almost as much as Desauriers. (Of course Teddy might have been referring to Nikita — 9:46) I thought CoHo was looking really good in the final 10 minutes. Quote
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