Trade: Myers, Stafford, Armia, Lemieux, + Low 1st for Kane, Bogosian, and Kasdorf

TrueBlueGED · April 16, 2015

Here I am again, defending Drew Stafford. Unreal. Stafford's contract year he had 52 points. The year after? 50. Sure he had fewer goals, but it's not like he stopped playing hockey. He's still a 40-45 point player and in this NHL that's solid second line production. He's not the guy most fans wanted him to be, but he can be a contributor on a good team.

qwksndmonster · April 16, 2015

Here I am again, defending Drew Stafford. Unreal. Stafford's contract year he had 52 points. The year after? 50. Sure he had fewer goals, but it's not like he stopped playing hockey. He's still a 40-45 point player and in this NHL that's solid second line production. He's not the guy most fans wanted him to be, but he can be a contributor on a good team.

He can be a 2nd line player IF you have a legit top line and IF you have a good defensive 3rd line to take the tough assignments and IF you have 2 much better 2nd line players who wear long dress coats.

I miss Bmwolf :(

And Wonderbread.

LGR4GM · April 16, 2015

I'll help:

http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/20741-stafford-needs-to-go/

Happy reading Ducky. Perhaps while on the toilet?

Man Taro and I did not get along. Also I made it to page 3 of that thread before I rage quit. Ahh the good old days where I was more Han Solo than Obi Wan

Sabres Fan in NS · April 16, 2015

Heh, I love reading that thread. The sausage picture, the old posters, Fu-man Drew...

Hopeful Future with the second post. Wonder if he'll show up again, only to be run out of town as a BSer.

Also, if a poster is replied to and they have since changed their screen name, the old screen name shows up in the reply. Kind of cool and a way to keep track of everybody.

MattPie · April 16, 2015

Man Taro and I did not get along. Also I made it to page 3 of that thread before I rage quit. Ahh the good old days where I was more Han Solo than Obi Wan

Yeah, you were all guns a-blaze back then. :)

qwksndmonster · April 16, 2015

Man Taro and I did not get along. Also I made it to page 3 of that thread before I rage quit. Ahh the good old days where I was more Han Solo than Obi Wan

:lol: :lol: :lol:

darksabre · April 16, 2015

Man Taro and I did not get along. Also I made it to page 3 of that thread before I rage quit. Ahh the good old days where I was more Han Solo than Obi Wan

We all totally hated you. :lol:

Ducky · April 16, 2015

I see him as a 2nd liner with Scheif and Wheels but as our younger players develop he might see more 3rd line time....all this if he re-signs of course. Lots of guys from Minny on the team. Is he a leader? Not really, we have lots in Ladd, Wheeler, Stuart and Buff. He ahs scored some big goals tho.

LGR4GM · April 16, 2015

We all totally hated you. :lol:

Hey I was better than the snow people. They were like Wampas, just going around eating all the Tontons in sight.

shrader · April 16, 2015

Hopeful Future with the second post. Wonder if he'll show up again, only to be run out of town as a BSer.

Also, if a poster is replied to and they have since changed their screen name, the old screen name shows up in the reply. Kind of cool and a way to keep track of everybody.

Did you not know that you can see a full list of a user's name changes on their profile page?

qwksndmonster · April 16, 2015

I see him as a 2nd liner with Scheif and Wheels but as our younger players develop he might see more 3rd line time....all this if he re-signs of course. Lots of guys from Minny on the team. Is he a leader? Not really, we have lots in Ladd, Wheeler, Stuart and Buff. He ahs scored some big goals tho.

Drew Stafford is in an excellent position to succeed in Winnipeg. The roster already has strong leadership and toughness, so he wont be leaned on for either.

And, more importantly (and as X stated), you have good centers.

That said, I still think a ###### leopard can't change his spots.

Edited April 16, 2015 by qwksndmonster

Doohicksie · April 16, 2015

Obi Wan

Obi Wan? Heh.

Doohicksie · April 16, 2015

I see him as a 2nd liner with Scheif and Wheels but as our younger players develop he might see more 3rd line time....all this if he re-signs of course. Lots of guys from Minny on the team. Is he a leader? Not really, we have lots in Ladd, Wheeler, Stuart and Buff. He ahs scored some big goals tho.

I really like Scheif. Out of all the Jets he's the one that stands out when I watch them.

Stafford's biggest problem in Buffalo was he was the junior member of the Old Rotten Core that included Vanek, Pommenville, Roy and that whole group. As he declined, so did the Sabres (or was that the other way around?) We've pretty much eradicated all those players now. The best thing for both him and the team was a change of scenery (maybe the same can be said of Kane?) But for Stafford I think his biggest problem is the timing of when he came up and where the team was headed. He had a fair amount of talent to begin with but it just kind of decayed into oblivion, as did his production. With the front line talent in WPG he may be able to return to form.

Sabres Fan in NS · April 16, 2015

Did you not know that you can see a full list of a user's name changes on their profile page?

Yes. Thanks for the reminder, but that's a lot of work.

And, aside from the regulars, I find it hard to keep track.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Sabres Fan In NS

Samson's Flow · April 16, 2015

I really like Scheif. Out of all the Jets he's the one that stands out when I watch them.

Stafford's biggest problem in Buffalo was he was the junior member of the Old Rotten Core that included Vanek, Pommenville, Roy and that whole group. As he declined, so did the Sabres (or was that the other way around?) We've pretty much eradicated all those players now. The best thing for both him and the team was a change of scenery (maybe the same can be said of Kane?) But for Stafford I think his biggest problem is the timing of when he came up and where the team was headed. He had a fair amount of talent to begin with but it just kind of decayed into oblivion, as did his production. With the front line talent in WPG he may be able to return to form.

Not arguing, but is there anyone at all left from the "old core"? You can probably drop the 'pretty much' part. Every player from the old core is now gone. No Vanek, Pominville, Stafford, Roy, Myers, Gaustad, Miller. Heck the longest tenured Sabre is Pat Kaleta and I don't see him playing for us next year.

There is no trace of the team from the post-lockout days. None.

Sabres Fan in NS · April 16, 2015

Not arguing, but is there anyone at all left from the "old core"? You can probably drop the 'pretty much' part. Every player from the old core is now gone. No Vanek, Pominville, Stafford, Roy, Myers, Gaustad, Miller. Heck the longest tenured Sabre is Pat Kaleta and I don't see him playing for us next year.

There is no trace of the team from the post-lockout days. None.

I think Rip is still here. So, that's a trace.

Samson's Flow · April 16, 2015

I think Rip is still here. So, that's a trace.

I stand corrected. Rip and RJ. The two constants. :flirt:

nfreeman · April 16, 2015

Man Taro and I did not get along. Also I made it to page 3 of that thread before I rage quit. Ahh the good old days where I was more Han Solo than Obi Wan

While I could be persuaded that there are elements (perhaps "traces" is more accurate) of Obi-Wan at present, the bolded is an awfully generous description of your early days. "Wookie" is probably closer to home -- especially given the similarity between his trade ideas and those you used to propose.

And Han Solo knew how to hold his liquor around the ladies.

Samson's Flow · April 16, 2015

While I could be persuaded that there are elements (perhaps "traces" is more accurate) of Obi-Wan at present, the bolded is an awfully generous description of your early days. "Wookie" is probably closer to home -- especially given the similarity between his trade ideas and those you used to propose.

And Han Solo knew how to hold his liquor around the ladies.

:nana:

Doohicksie · April 16, 2015

You can probably drop the 'pretty much' part.

There is no trace of the team from the post-lockout days. None.

Yeah, but I was lazy and sloppy and didn't go back and rigorously check, so I used Weasel Words.

dudacek · April 16, 2015

Yeah, but I was lazy and sloppy and didn't go back and rigorously check, so I used Weasel Words.

Darcy! DARCY!!!!!

Doohicksie · April 16, 2015

Dem's fightin' wurds.

beerme1 · April 16, 2015

interesting article on Kasdorf, that other guy we got in the trade

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2431049-buffalo-sabres-rebuild-why-jason-kasdorf-needs-more-praise

Can't be. We were told he sucked!

bunomatic · April 17, 2015

Ducky,

What our youngster from Horseheads really wanted to suggest is ...

... do a search for 11's thread for the ages ... "Drew Stafford Needs To Go". It's closed, but should not be archived yet. It ran for 4 years and into the hundreds of pages. It will tell you everything you need to know about Drew friggin' Stafford.

Post #7 on that thread is all he needs to see. :blink:

Eleven · April 17, 2015

We all love what you've become, Liger. No worries.

Tank will get there someday, too.

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