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Trade: Myers, Stafford, Armia, Lemieux, + Low 1st for Kane, Bogosian, and Kasdorf

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I think Kane for Myers could have been done, especially since the Winnipeg divorce was in progress.

 

Stafford can be a 15-20 goal scorer on the right team. I think you are undervaluing him.

I agree with this but I think their wouldn't be many takers on Drew. But I feel the same as this poster does about Kane and Myers. I think Winnipeg was desperate for a deal. This is going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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I agree with this but I think their wouldn't be many takers on Drew. But I feel the same as this poster does about Kane and Myers. I think Winnipeg was desperate for a deal. This is going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

Murray pushed for the deal now. Winnie wanted to wait until the off season (i guess to get more buyers). Not that desperate.

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Murray pushed for the deal now. Winnie wanted to wait until the off season (i guess to get more buyers). Not that desperate.

 

I watched the video.  Murray claimed that Winnipeg pushed for the deal now.

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I watched the video. Murray claimed that Winnipeg pushed for the deal now.

Winnipeg wanted players now that could help them make the playoffs and with all the drama Kane has had with Winnipeg I just don't see the need to give them what they want.

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Does your volume get muted every time they go to commercial?

Not sure if it mutes or there's just no audio... I get the same generic "the game will resume shortly" type message on screen as when there's an MSG conflict.

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Murray pushed for the deal now. Winnie wanted to wait until the off season (i guess to get more buyers). Not that desperate.

Their would have been a handful of teams but I believe his value goes down in the offseason and they wanted help filling his spot now.

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I watched the video.  Murray claimed that Winnipeg pushed for the deal now.

That doesn't mean they were desperate.

 

My point is that we may have overpaid, but it certainly wasn't massively. I also think that nobody is factoring in the price it takes to appear to be trying to make the team better while actually making it worse this year.

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That doesn't mean they were desperate.

 

My point is that we may have overpaid, but it certainly wasn't massively. I also think that nobody is factoring in the price it takes to appear to be trying to make the team better while actually making it worse this year.

 

Fair.  But I don't think people are factoring in that Kane is broken and might not even be available for the start of the season.  A lot will depend on when his off season surgery is and what they find.  But it is a fact that he is damaged goods at the sale.  That has to devalue him somewhat too.

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Fair.  But I don't think people are factoring in that Kane is broken and might not even be available for the start of the season.  A lot will depend on when his off season surgery is and what they find.  But it is a fact that he is damaged goods at the sale.  That have to devalue him somewhat too.

Didn't he already have it?

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Not sure if it mutes or there's just no audio... I get the same generic "the game will resume shortly" type message on screen as when there's an MSG conflict.

Whenever I watch a game that doesn't have commercials, like any MSG game with two MSG teams, my audio mutes every time they go to break. I have to manually turn the volume back up every time. I was wondering if it was just me or not. 

Didn't he already have it?

 

 

I thought I read (could be wrong) that he delayed doing it.

 

I read he had it three days ago. Kane made some comment about being woken by his agent, making some kind of reference that he hasn't been able to sleep much because of the pain from the surgery. 

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Whenever I watch a game that doesn't have commercials, like any MSG game with two MSG teams, my audio mutes every time they go to break. I have to manually turn the volume back up every time. I was wondering if it was just me or not.

 

Huh, never had to do that. This is what I see (with a variation at intermission).

 

Edit: pic won't attach for some reason, but it's the stock NHL message.

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Whenever I watch a game that doesn't have commercials, like any MSG game with two MSG teams, my audio mutes every time they go to break. I have to manually turn the volume back up every time. I was wondering if it was just me or not. 

 

 

 

I read he had it three days ago. Kane made some comment about being woken by his agent, making some kind of reference that he hasn't been able to sleep much because of the pain from the surgery. 

That's what I remember, too, and that's when they found the hole.

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That doesn't mean they were desperate.

 

My point is that we may have overpaid, but it certainly wasn't massively. I also think that nobody is factoring in the price it takes to appear to be trying to make the team better while actually making it worse this year.

I think they were desperate. They had issues with this guy. And once they knew he was out wanted to make a deal. It seem like he was out in Winnipeg regardless of this injury. I just hope he works out and becomes a great player for Buffalo but all the talk about teams interested in Myers to me seems like we traded him for too low. All this talk about teams wanting right handed defenseman. Yes we know he won't be Chara but he wasn't that bad and with him on a good team not having to be that number 1 defenseman he might finally break out now.

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Huh, never had to do that. This is what I see (with a variation at intermission).

 

Edit: pic won't attach for some reason, but it's the stock NHL message.

Yeah, I get the same one. Too bad, I like seeing the out of town commercials. 

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I think they were desperate. They had issues with this guy. And once they knew he was out wanted to make a deal. It seem like he was out in Winnipeg regardless of this injury. I just hope he works out and becomes a great player for Buffalo but all the talk about teams interested in Myers to me seems like we traded him for too low. All this talk about teams wanting right handed defenseman. Yes we know he won't be Chara but he wasn't that bad and with him on a good team not having to be that number 1 defenseman he might finally break out now.

Hard to say we settled too low when we don't know what other teams were offering for Myers. I have faith that GMTM took the deal that made the most sense for the Sabres. 

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This isn't the right thread but I just turned on the Oilers Habs game with half the third period left. The Habs immediately scored as soon as I turned it on to make it 3-2. Then the Oilers pulled their goalie, scored with less than 30 seconds to go to tie, and then won it in OT.

 

The tank is alive and kicking!

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Yeah, I get the same one. Too bad, I like seeing the out of town commercials. 

 

Roby does a Yancey Fancy Cheese Commercial on the Yotes Broadcasts 

 

 

 

 

Murray was on Hockey Central at Noon

 

About the trade:

 

Was talking to TP this morning and said they where buyers yesterday. 

 

Feels there are two sides to every story and he did not need to talk to Kane prior to the deal.

 

Kane cannot start rehab for one month, and no decision on where he will rehab has been made

 

Kane will be in Buffalo Feb 20-23 to meet with medical staff/trainers, meet the team and for press availability

 

He is not concerned about the labrum repair, as this is the same surgery that Foligno had. 

 

He and Chevy were not concerned about winning the trade, wanted to get fair deal for both sides

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He and Chevy were not concerned about winning the trade, wanted to get fair deal for both sides

This brings up an interesting phenomenon IMO.

 

Everyone wants to win the trade. As Sabres fans we surely hope we "win the trade." But it really means nothing. I was sooooooo sick of Stafford, and wanted him gone, and was extremely frustrated with Myers a lot of the time. But they were nice guys. I hated Stafford as a player at times but I liked him as a guy. I really hope he does well. I really hope Myers does well. I hope both teams think they won the trade. I wouldn't say that about other players. Has nothing to do with how good you think they are.

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