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Nice truck.

 

Isn't McCown/Manuel essentially Orton/Manuel and Kolb/Manuel? - an OK veteran placeholder who can be serviceable if the kid can't get to done?

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Who, in the last 3 years, have the Bills been in position to draft or acquire through trade or free agency who is actually good? The only one I can think of is Alex Smith, and even he was suddenly incapable of winning once his defense fell apart to injury. From my memory, there haven't been anything else you could even argue was a missed opportunity.

Smith isn't good either. Manuel can do what Alex does and more. People get enamored with a name. Watch the player. Blech.

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Smith isn't good either. Manuel can do what Alex does and more. People get enamored with a name. Watch the player. Blech.

Oh, I agree, hence the comment about his defense. I just used him because I anticipated somebody using him as an example of a missed opportunity.

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Who, in the last 3 years, have the Bills been in position to draft or acquire through trade or free agency who is actually good? The only one I can think of is Alex Smith, and even he was suddenly incapable of winning once his defense fell apart to injury. From my memory, there haven't been anything else you could even argue was a missed opportunity.

We had talks with SF regarding Smith and would have liked to trade for him, but KC offered a much better draft choice in return. 

 

GO BILLS!!!

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Smith isn't good either. Manuel can do what Alex does and more. People get enamored with a name. Watch the player. Blech.

smith is waaay better than EJ...come on now lets stop the silly stuff.

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Sorry Alex Smith is at best an average QB

 

Yup. He's the living embodiment of a game manager--he wins when everything is perfect, but when his team has to rely on him, he cannot make those around him better and lead to victory. He has ONE season with more than 18 TDs FFS!

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Yup. He's the living embodiment of a game manager--he wins when everything is perfect, but when his team has to rely on him, he cannot make those around him better and lead to victory. He has ONE season with more than 18 TDs FFS!

And it took him to the last game last year to throw a TD to a receiver!!

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Sorry Alex Smith is at best an average QB

          

 

          He is at best an above avg QB. Yes hes usually average . Which still makes him way better than EJ.

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I wonder what would make a quarterback pick Cleveland over Buffalo?

To me, Rex Ryan, plus Pegula bucks, plus that defence should make the Bills a more attractive destination.

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I wonder what would make a quarterback pick Cleveland over Buffalo?

To me, Rex Ryan, plus Pegula bucks, plus that defence should make the Bills a more attractive destination.

Pegula bucks don't mean a thing if the team doesn't want to give them to you. The fact that he got a THREE YEAR DEAL is ridiculous. And I'm glad we didn't give it to him.

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I wonder what would make a quarterback pick Cleveland over Buffalo?

To me, Rex Ryan, plus Pegula bucks, plus that defence should make the Bills a more attractive destination.

Well I'm only speculating here but im willing to bet that we weren't offering him a 3 year deal. I'm pretty surprised that's what he got
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Well I'm only speculating here but im willing to bet that we weren't offering him a 3 year deal. I'm pretty surprised that's what he got

 

That's my answer right there.

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Was it a real 3-year deal though? i.e. were the economics structured such that Cleveland can't just cut him anytime with no real loss?

Signing bonus is usually only guaranteed money

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