off topic Buffalo Bills 2015

[musichunch]

PFF QB grading is kind of a mess, sure. But what does that have to do with FO team/unit ranking? Did I miss something?

 

I used to be a big FO guy. 

 

Then I realized that they had access to the same information we did. Meaning no All-22. I just don't believe any truly meaningful observational analysis can be done with the TV camera view, even with lineman.

 

Since All-22 came available I'm not sure if they've changed their methods, but I still doubt them. 

Edited October 21, 2015 by musichunch

[MattPie]

I used to be a big FO guy. 

 

Then I realized that they had access to the same information we did. Meaning no All-22. I just don't believe any truly meaningful observational analysis can be done with the TV camera view, even with lineman.

 

Since All-22 came available I'm not sure if they've changed their methods, but I still doubt them. 

 

I think that's referred to as "Video Scouting".

[TrueBlueGED]

I used to be a big FO guy. 

 

Then I realized that they had access to the same information we did. Meaning no All-22. I just don't believe any truly meaningful observational analysis can be done with the TV camera view, even with lineman.

 

Since All-22 came available I'm not sure if they've changed their methods, but I still doubt them. 

 

DVOA isn't based on video analysis though, it's an event-based metric with data pulled from the NFL's digital play-by-play system. So I really have no idea why you think All-22 versus TV cameras is even relevant.

[musichunch]

DVOA isn't based on video analysis though, it's an event-based metric with data pulled from the NFL's digital play-by-play system. So I really have no idea why you think All-22 versus TV cameras is even relevant.

 

TBH, in that case, I respect it even less. 

[TrueBlueGED]

TBH, in that case, I respect it even less. 

 

So you used to be a big FO fan without any notion of what they were actually doing, then lost respect for it when something became publicly available that had nothing to do with their stuff, and now that you were told what it actually is you respect it even less? Nice.

[Brawndo]

EJ starts on Sunday and Vic Carucci is reporting the reason Percy is not in London is he is considering retirement because of his hip injury.

[Eleven]

So this team is missing a starting quarterback, three of its top four receivers, and several starting Williamses, and I'm thinking of sleeping in on Sunday.

Edited October 22, 2015 by eleven

[darksabre]

This season is basically over, right? 

[SwampD]

So this team is missing a starting quarterback, three of its top four receivers, and several starting Williamses, and I'm thinking of sleeping in on Sunday.

If I was allowed to sleep in, I would, but, alas, I will have to watch this one. On a positive note, I love bloody marys.

[Claude_Verret]

This season is basically over, right? 

 

16 and counting...

[TrueBlueGED]

This season is basically over, right?

Nah, the Jags are perfectly beatable and then we have a bye.

[darksabre]

Nah, the Jags are perfectly beatable and then we have a bye.

Is that going to be enough? 

 

I'm starting to feel like we're the Black Knight in Monty Python. 

[TrueBlueGED]

Is that going to be enough?

 

I'm starting to feel like we're the Black Knight in Monty Python.

Maybe? I mean, the AFC is pretty terrible.

[nfreeman]

So who are the wideouts now, with Goodwin and presumably Harvin gone for the season, and Watkins probably out?

 

Eeeeeeeeeeesssssshhh.

[wjag]

My Top 5 reasons why the Bills are just 3-3

 

1.  Inconsistent offense leaves defense out there all game

2.  Boneheaded Penalties

3.  No, zero, zip, nada credible pass rush 

4.  Injuries to McCoy, Williamson, glass man and Harvin

5.  Really poor O-Line play

 

Other than that, it's all peachy

Edited October 22, 2015 by wjag

[musichunch]

I love when sh*t hits the fan and the truth comes out. Turns out Percy has had this problem going back to the 2009 combine. 

 

Six years of having to deal with the same injury, sapping away elite abilities. That sucks. But at least he got one more pay day. 

[Claude_Verret]

I had saved vacation time for this week because my brother and I wanted to take our dad to the London game and spend some time in Ireland too.  My dad being the curmudgeon that he is nixed the whole thing and refused to go.  So instead my brother and I are taking our wives to Vegas for a long weekend, the game will be on at 6 am there so unless I stay up all night it's highly unlikely that I'll end up watching it.

[Hoss]

Schefter says Harvin isn't considering retirement and is just frustrated.

[That Aud Smell]

^ 

 

I don't blame the man.

[inkman]

So who are the wideouts now, with Goodwin and presumably Harvin gone for the season, and Watkins probably out?

 

Eeeeeeeeeeesssssshhh.

Without checking anything me thinks:

 

Woods

Hogan

Easley

D. Moore

 

Not sure if mark-qweese gray is still injured but they could sure use him. Chris Gragg doesn't give me much hope.

[Eleven]

^ 

 

I don't blame the man.

 

Why should Harvin be frustrated?  Taylor was throwing to him plenty.

[tom webster]

Why should Harvin be frustrated?  Taylor was throwing to him plenty.

 

 

Frustrated over the injury is the implication. This was going to be a big contract year for him and its not going well.

A few things;

 

1) I still think they make the playoffs, a first step in the Ryan process, a third step in the Whaley process

2) penalties, as aggravating as they are, shouldn't really be an issue. Look at the penalty leaders from last year, one and two were in the Super Bowl.

3) don't understand why a lot of the same people that rip the Watkins trade are concerned about wide outs. Aren't they a dime a dozen?

[qwksndmonster]

Even though he's an amazing athlete and a great guy, we gotta cut Marquise Goodwin.  How many times has he been injured in his young career? 11? 13?

[nfreeman]

Frustrated over the injury is the implication. This was going to be a big contract year for him and its not going well.

A few things;

 

1) I still think they make the playoffs, a first step in the Ryan process, a third step in the Whaley process

2) penalties, as aggravating as they are, shouldn't really be an issue. Look at the penalty leaders from last year, one and two were in the Super Bowl.

3) don't understand why a lot of the same people that rip the Watkins trade are concerned about wide outs. Aren't they a dime a dozen?

 

Respectfully, this is a straw man.  I (and I think most who don't like the Watkins trade) don't think franchise WRs are a dime a dozen -- just that there were a number of good ones they could've drafted last year that wouldn't have cost the extra #1 pick.

[CallawaySabres]

Looks like Buffalo made the wrong head coach hire....again. Mutiny on the D 6 weeks in and all these injuries? Yup, this season dies on the vine this Sunday in London.