off topic Buffalo Bills 2015

[That Aud Smell]

No amount of hate for Brady can diminish my respect for how gotdam good he is. Jesus on a popsicle stick - just amazing.

 

And yeah: Our O-Line is aspirating the sweat of a donkey's taint. They failed to impose themselves on the frickin' COLTS last week. They've got to get better, and in a hurry. If not, this is a 7 or 8 win team, tops.

 

I'm not sure whether you were able to watch the first half or not.  But after a VERY successful start, based upon running and wearing them down, Roman went with a strategy of throwing short passes behind the LOS.  (Which was EXACTLY what the cheats did on their first series, which the Bills shut down.)

 

I too thought that Roman out-thought himself a bit. That sequence of series was, IMO, scripted. I think he thought he would get NE all off balance with the shift in tactics. It just did not work. At all.

 

I think they've got a great chance of winning their next seven.

 

That's where I am. It's Miami week, people. (Was an away Miami game also "Miami week" back in the day?)

 

Squish the Fish.

[nfreeman]

Bull. It was 37-32 at one point.

 

Yes, after the Pats took their foot off the gas, having completely dismantled the Bills in all phases of the game.

 

BTW, what happened when it was 37-32, and the Pats got the ball with 4 min left, and the supposedly great Bills' D needed to force a stop ASAP to get the ball back?

 

Oh, that's right.  The Pats marched right down the field, as easily as they had throughout the first 3 quarters, and scored again.

 

The game was not competitive.  The Bills got blown out.

[darksabre]

Yes, after the Pats took their foot off the gas, having completely dismantled the Bills in all phases of the game.

 

BTW, what happened when it was 37-32, and the Pats got the ball with 4 min left, and the supposedly great Bills' D needed to force a stop ASAP to get the ball back?

 

Oh, that's right.  The Pats marched right down the field, as easily as they had throughout the first 3 quarters, and scored again.

 

The game was not competitive.  The Bills got blown out.

 

This. 

[SwampD]

Why do you guys even watch?

[Eleven]

Yes, after the Pats took their foot off the gas, having completely dismantled the Bills in all phases of the game.

 

BTW, what happened when it was 37-32, and the Pats got the ball with 4 min left, and the supposedly great Bills' D needed to force a stop ASAP to get the ball back?

 

Oh, that's right.  The Pats marched right down the field, as easily as they had throughout the first 3 quarters, and scored again.

 

The game was not competitive.  The Bills got blown out.

 

I know you like to hold referees blameless, but, if you're going to focus on that last drive, you need to account for the phantom PI call, too.

[SwampD]

I know you like to hold referees blameless, but, if you're going to focus on that last drive, you need to account for the phantom PI call, too.

Glad you said it. I'm still trying to get an answer on when another team got a bench penalty. How about the phantom holding that extended their drive when we stopped them on third down early in the 3rd.

 

Sorry. Officiating has nothing to do with the outcomes of games.

 

Rex - "I guess the refs thought they [the fans] came to see them today."

[LGR4GM]

Why do you guys even watch?

:flirt:

 

[shrader]

I know you like to hold referees blameless, but, if you're going to focus on that last drive, you need to account for the phantom PI call, too.

 

I'm not interested in blaming the refs for anything, but that guy who called the offensive PI on Watkins should never be allowed to call a game again.  This phrase gets thrown around a lot, but that may very well have been the worst call I have ever seen.  If I remember correctly, that was right before the flag thrown on the bench.  I watched the whole thing on DVR with a ton of fastforwarding though, so I did miss all of the analysis during the game and things are a jumbled mess in my mind.

[Eleven]

I'm not interested in blaming the refs for anything, but that guy who called the offensive PI on Watkins should never be allowed to call a game again.  This phrase gets thrown around a lot, but that may very well have been the worst call I have ever seen.  If I remember correctly, that was right before the flag thrown on the bench.  I watched the whole thing on DVR with a ton of fastforwarding though, so I did miss all of the analysis during the game and things are a jumbled mess in my mind.

 

That was the worst yesterday, and it was right before the flag thrown on the bench.  Ryan needs to get himself and the team under control.  9 personal fouls.  Who knows how many unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.  No excuse for that.

 

 

Glad you said it. I'm still trying to get an answer on when another team got a bench penalty. How about the phantom holding that extended their drive when we stopped them on third down early in the 3rd.

 

Sorry. Officiating has nothing to do with the outcomes of games.

 

Rex - "I guess the refs thought they [the fans] came to see them today."

 

The refs made some mistakes, but the Bills made more.  I'm not pinning that debacle on the refs, just that last drive.

 

I am certain that I have seen a coach receive an unsportsmanlike before.

[inkman]

Makes sense, but maaaaaan it looked like a safety at the time.

Not by the NFL current definition.

[shrader]

That was the worst yesterday, and it was right before the flag thrown on the bench.  Ryan needs to get himself and the team under control.  9 personal fouls.  Who knows how many unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.  No excuse for that.

 

Quick cuts are now offensive PI.  Who says everything the league does is meant to help the passing game?

[Eleven]

Quick cuts are now offensive PI.  Who says everything the league does is meant to help the passing game?

 

Sorry-- I meant it was the worst mistake by the refs.  Certainly, Sammy did NOTHING wrong on that play.

[shrader]

Sorry-- I meant it was the worst mistake by the refs.  Certainly, Sammy did NOTHING wrong on that play.

 

No, I understood you.  I just wanted to say more about that call.

[TrueBlueGED]

Yes, after the Pats took their foot off the gas, having completely dismantled the Bills in all phases of the game.

 

BTW, what happened when it was 37-32, and the Pats got the ball with 4 min left, and the supposedly great Bills' D needed to force a stop ASAP to get the ball back?

 

Oh, that's right. The Pats marched right down the field, as easily as they had throughout the first 3 quarters, and scored again.

 

The game was not competitive. The Bills got blown out.

While the Pats taking their foot off the gas was the impetus for the comeback, we still got the ball back with a chance to send it into OT. Most of the time garbage time points don't get things competitive again (see: the Colts game), but this was different. I don't put nearly as much stock in it as Swamp is, but it shouldn't be completely disregarded either.

[SwampD]

That was the worst yesterday, and it was right before the flag thrown on the bench.  Ryan needs to get himself and the team under control.  9 personal fouls.  Who knows how many unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.  No excuse for that.

 

 

 

The refs made some mistakes, but the Bills made more.  I'm not pinning that debacle on the refs, just that last drive.

 

I am certain that I have seen a coach receive an unsportsmanlike before.

I guarantee it wasn't to a coach of a MFT.

And our kicker lands on his side from 4 feet and its a running into the kicker? mmm, k.

 

That drive should have been extended. Whatever.

[nfreeman]

Why do you guys even watch?

 

Liking a team (or anything else, for that matter) doesn't mean you should ignore reality.

 

In fact, if you want your team to win, you should want them to be objective about their strengths and weaknesses so they can fix what needs fixing.  If you instead continually kid yourself about how good they are and how their losses were the refs' fault and not their fault and how they really were close to beating the team that just crushed them -- you'll find yourself locked into the cycle of eternal mediocrity that the Bills have inhabited for 15 years.

 

I know you like to hold referees blameless, but, if you're going to focus on that last drive, you need to account for the phantom PI call, too.

 

Et tu?

[SwampD]

Liking a team (or anything else, for that matter) doesn't mean you should ignore reality.

 

In fact, if you want your team to win, you should want them to be objective about their strengths and weaknesses so they can fix what needs fixing.  If you instead continually kid yourself about how good they are and how their losses were the refs' fault and not their fault and how they really were close to beating the team that just crushed them -- you'll find yourself locked into the cycle of eternal mediocrity that the Bills have inhabited for 15 years.

 

 

 

Et tu?

You do know that how I decide to root for my team has no effect on how they perform, right?

[Eleven]

Liking a team (or anything else, for that matter) doesn't mean you should ignore reality.

 

In fact, if you want your team to win, you should want them to be objective about their strengths and weaknesses so they can fix what needs fixing.  If you instead continually kid yourself about how good they are and how their losses were the refs' fault and not their fault and how they really were close to beating the team that just crushed them -- you'll find yourself locked into the cycle of eternal mediocrity that the Bills have inhabited for 15 years.

 

 

Et tu?

 

I'm not blaming the refs for the game.  Not even close.  But if you're going to isolate one drive, where the Bills held the Cheats to a field goal, and where a horrible call was responsible for 30% of the yardage on the drive, and still blame only the Bills' defense for that drive, I've gotta conclude that your analysis is lacking something.

[nfreeman]

You do know that how I decide to root for my team has no effect on how they perform, right?

 

So you don't think that teams can be held accountable by their fan bases?

 

You don't think that the unmistakable expressions of mass revulsion by the Sabres' fan base got Darcy and Rolston fired?

[TrueBlueGED]

So you don't think that teams can be held accountable by their fan bases?

 

You don't think that the unmistakable expressions of mass revulsion by the Sabres' fan base got Darcy and Rolston fired?

Blaming the fans is as lame and weak as it gets. You just got caught up in the argument and lost your mind.

[nfreeman]

I'm not blaming the refs for the game.  Not even close.  But if you're going to isolate one drive, where the Bills held the Cheats to a field goal, and where a horrible call was responsible for 30% of the yardage on the drive, and still blame only the Bills' defense for that drive, I've gotta conclude that your analysis is lacking something.

 

That penalty -- for 22 yards -- was on a 1st down.  If the penalty hadn't been called, do you not think the Pats would've just continued their undisturbed march down the field on 2nd down? 

 

BTW, on the next play, Brady hit Edelman (who lit up the Bills all day) for 29 yards.

 

The broader point is that if someone (not you) watched that game and posted 10 times in this thread, and all 10 of those posts included complaints about the refs -- that person simply isn't paying attention.

[wjag]

I for one was highly entertained yesterday.  Not happy with the execution, but that was a heckuva football game.  On to week three..  The NFL season is a progression.  Pick yourself up and move on.

[TrueBlueGED]

I for one was highly entertained yesterday.  Not happy with the execution, but that was a heckuva football game.  On to week three..  The NFL season is a progression.  Pick yourself up and move on.

 

Good move, let's Belichick the snot outta this: it's on to Miami! 

 

I look forward to the bounceback game against a fraudulent team.

[SwampD]

That penalty -- for 22 yards -- was on a 1st down.  If the penalty hadn't been called, do you not think the Pats would've just continued their undisturbed march down the field on 2nd down? 

 

BTW, on the next play, Brady hit Edelman (who lit up the Bills all day) for 29 yards.

 

The broader point is that if someone (not you) watched that game and posted 10 times in this thread, and all 10 of those posts included complaints about the refs -- that person simply isn't paying attention.

Look, I'm the hopeful one here. You and others said the Bills got blown out yesterday and that the was nothing good about the game. I'm saying that it was closer than the refs made it appear. Tom Brady is allowed to yell in a refs face. Apparently, Rex Ryan is not. It was the refs that kept handing them a short field that allowed them to go ahead so quickly. You can pretend the refs had nothing to do with it. That's fine. I really don't care. But I'm not crazy for thinking that and im sure im not alone in thinking it.

 

We are a good team (better than you are giving them credit for) and will beat Miami.

[Cereal]

Lots of teachable moments there to help him with is decision making. 

I heard that Kyle Williams said something like this game put the whole team in a perfect learning situation (young guys AND vets).  Hopefully, leadership and coaches harness it, and make something of it moving forward.  It's a long season and in the end, it's only ONE LOSS.

 

The fans at the game were pretty loud on the first NE* drive or two, but Brady* silenced us pretty effectively (well, I was still roarin' the whole game...)  There were plenty of empty seats by the time the Bills starting coming back in the 4th quarter.