TrueBlueGED Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 I have no time for mundane trivialities. Ask Drew Brees how trivial the rest of the team is. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 Ask Drew Brees how trivial the rest of the team is. I appreciate the anecdote, Mr. Sample Size. But can you imagine if the bills finished half a game out of the playoffs in a season where they lost 2 in overtime! Quote
Hoss Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 I disagree with any notion insinuating "most teams don't have good QBs" or that this idea excuses the atrocity that is and has been the Bills QB situation for what feels like eternity. By my count 18 teams (MIA, NE, BAL, PIT, IND, DEN, KC, SD, DAL, NYG, CHI, DET, GB, ATL, CAR, NO, ARI, SEA) have what you can definitively call "good" QBs. CIN, JAX, TEN, OAK, PHI, MIN, TB, STL and SF all have QBs that are either debatable or potential long-term solutions in place. That leaves BUF, NYJ, CLE, HOU and WAS as definitively bad QB situations. 5/32. Just my two cents. There is no excusing this ongoing situation. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I disagree with any notion insinuating "most teams don't have good QBs" or that this idea excuses the atrocity that is and has been the Bills QB situation for what feels like eternity. By my count 18 teams (MIA, NE, BAL, PIT, IND, DEN, KC, SD, DAL, NYG, CHI, DET, GB, ATL, CAR, NO, ARI, SEA) have what you can definitively call "good" QBs. CIN, JAX, TEN, OAK, PHI, MIN, TB, STL and SF all have QBs that are either debatable or potential long-term solutions in place. That leaves BUF, NYJ, CLE, HOU and WAS as definitively bad QB situations. 5/32. Just my two cents. There is no excusing this ongoing situation. I wasn't excusing the Bills, I was picking on Whiskey. And MIA, KC, CHI, DAL, and ARI don't have good QBs. I know Romo is good during weeks 1-12 of the regular season. Edited August 29, 2015 by immerman Quote
K-9 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 I wasn't excusing the Bills, I was picking on Whiskey. And MIA, KC, CHI, DAL, and ARI don't have good QBs. I know Romo is good during weeks 1-12 of the regular season. At the risk of drawing Eleven's ire, if you don't think Romo is a good QB, you simply haven't been paying attention. GO BILLS!!! Quote
qwksndmonster Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 At the risk of drawing Eleven's ire, if you don't think Romo is a good QB, you simply haven't been paying attention. GO BILLS!!! I know he's a talented QB. I've also seen him choke away late season meaningful situations over and over and over. I can't call him good. Quote
WildCard Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I wasn't excusing the Bills, I was picking on Whiskey. And MIA, KC, CHI, DAL, and ARI don't have good QBs. I know Romo is good during weeks 1-12 of the regular season. I usually agree with you immerman, but Hoss is right here. All of those teams have "good QB's". And I'd argue Romo is elite and Tannehill good very well become elite himself; this year is a defining season for him. I am interested that he doesn't have Dalton in his list of good QB's however, seeing as, IMO he's done more than Tannehill Edited August 29, 2015 by WildCard Quote
Eleven Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 How is Ryan Tannehill what anyone would definitively good QB? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 I usually agree with you immerman, but Hoss is right here. All of those teams have "good QB's". And I'd argue Romo is elite and Tannehill good very well become elite himself; this year is a defining season for him. I am interested that he doesn't have Dalton in his list of good QB's however, seeing as, IMO he's done more than Tannehill If you think Dalton is good your right to have QB opinions is officially revoked. Quote
The Dominator Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 I wasn't excusing the Bills, I was picking on Whiskey. And MIA, KC, CHI, DAL, and ARI don't have good QBs. I know Romo is good during weeks 1-12 of the regular season. Out of this list, I would put MIA and DAL in the "good" pile. Carson started off great last year but I think we all know the status quo on him now. Alex Smith is the definition of mediocre in my eyes and it's too bad Cutler wouldn't waste his "elite" talent with poor drive and leadership. If you think Dalton is good your right to have QB opinions is officially revoked. While I agree with you, that is a pretty bad argument to make... "If you don't agree with me then you can't have a voice!" Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Dalton is soooooo bad it is literally funny to watch him play. I think tannehill is much better than bills fans think, considering he sucks every time we play Miami Quote
Fidelio Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 I don't think Rex wants the job. I think he's using us as leverage for Atlanta and/or ESPN. Interesting about Atlanta, tho I'm pretty sure he didn't need to take another job to be attractive to ESPN. BTW... Dear Seasoned vet, How do prediction threads fare on this site? I'm thinking of starting one (I REALLY LOVE PREDICTIONS) but won't if there is no market for it. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 How is Ryan Tannehill what anyone would definitively good QB? Would anyone definitively good QB? Quote
Eleven Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Would anyone definitively good QB? Yeah, that's missing a verb somewhere. You get the point. I think he's pretty average. He hasn't taken the fins anywhere and I don't think he will. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 While I agree with you, that is a pretty bad argument to make... "If you don't agree with me then you can't have a voice!" I'm sure WildCard's sense of humor is attuned to get it ;) Yeah, that's missing a verb somewhere. You get the point. I think he's pretty average. He hasn't taken the fins anywhere and I don't think he will. He's absolutely average. Quote
Hoss Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) 5th in completions 5th in completion percentage 11th in yards 13th in TDs I get it. He's a division rival QB who struggles against one of the best defenses in the league when he plays them. It's hard to be unbiased, but Ryan Tannehill is definitively good. And he's likely only going to get better if his o-line isn't terrible. Ryan Tannehill would be the best QB we've had since JK. That's not saying much but it's still the truth, in my opinion. And Alex Smith isn't mediocre. He's one of the best game managers the game has ever seen. He excels at making plays when the team needs them, will win games occasionally when needed and knows when to play it safe. One of the smartest QBs in the league. He's nothing to get excited about, but he has led a team to a Super Bowl after one of the most exciting performances I've ever seen in a playoff game. Smith led two drives of over 80 yards for TDs in the final 4 minutes of this game. It's like we're so used to bad QBs that we have no idea what a good one looks like unless they're all over the front page of ESPN every week. Edited August 29, 2015 by Hoss Quote
The Dominator Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Is anyone here going to the game? I'll be in section 136 Quote
wjag Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 And Alex Smith isn't mediocre. He's one of the best game managers the game has ever seen. So Alex Smith, is a lock, first ballot hall of famer? Quote
JujuFish Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Tannehill has improved each season and had a 4,000 yard season last year. We haven't had that here since Bledsoe in 2002. Quote
Taro T Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Posted August 29, 2015 5th in completions 5th in completion percentage 11th in yards 13th in TDs I get it. He's a division rival QB who struggles against one of the best defenses in the league when he plays them. It's hard to be unbiased, but Ryan Tannehill is definitively good. And he's likely only going to get better if his o-line isn't terrible. Ryan Tannehill would be the best QB we've had since JK. That's not saying much but it's still the truth, in my opinion. And Alex Smith isn't mediocre. He's one of the best game managers the game has ever seen. He excels at making plays when the team needs them, will win games occasionally when needed and knows when to play it safe. One of the smartest QBs in the league. He's nothing to get excited about, but he has led a team to a Super Bowl after one of the most exciting performances I've ever seen in a playoff game. Smith led two drives of over 80 yards for TDs in the final 4 minutes of this game. It's like we're so used to bad QBs that we have no idea what a good one looks like unless they're all over the front page of ESPN every week. 5th in completions and 11th in yardage MIGHT have something to do w/ a high completion %age. Just sayin'. ;) Quote
Hoss Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 5th in completions and 11th in yardage MIGHT have something to do w/ a high completion %age. Just sayin'. ;) Yea, he had a ton of weapons to work with. So Alex Smith, is a lock, first ballot hall of famer? You don't go to the HOF as a game manager. Quote
wjag Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Yea, he had a ton of weapons to work with. You don't go to the HOF as a game manager. If you're "the best game manager the game has ever seen" where exactly do you go then? Edited August 29, 2015 by wjag Quote
Hoss Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 If you're "the best game manager the game has ever seen" where exactly do you go then? Conveniently leaving out "one of." Try again. Quote
wjag Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Conveniently leaving out "one of." Try again. Fine. if you're "one of the best game managers the game has ever seen" where exactly do you go then? Quote
Eleven Posted August 29, 2015 Report Posted August 29, 2015 Fine. if you're "one of the best game managers the game has ever seen" where exactly do you go then? Hall of Limbo. Quote
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