Hoss Posted August 19, 2015 Report Posted August 19, 2015 Goodwin the man makes it easy to root for Goodwin the players. Always pulling for him to stay healthy and be the weapon he can be. Quote
Claude_Verret Posted August 19, 2015 Report Posted August 19, 2015 Yes indeed Aud, I saw that when it first aired. What a great kid, I'm rooting for him. Quote
ubkev Posted August 19, 2015 Report Posted August 19, 2015 Why the Bills suck (part of a Deadspin series): http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2015-buffalo-bills-1724824323 Always a must read. I chuckled. I was really looking forward to this one, though. It was a pretty big letdown from the last 2 years. The fan comments on all of them have been pretty weak this year. Quote
Marvelo Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 I was listening to ESPN Radio and they were talking w all the RB injuries, the Bills should pick up Ray Rice... Quote
darksabre Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 If the Bills sign Ray Rice I'm quitting football. Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Didn't Carucci put the lid on all this Ray Rice stuff yesterday? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Didn't Carucci put the lid on all this Ray Rice stuff yesterday? Yes. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 As did Wawrow. The reports don't conflict per se. Some national guys reported that there were discussions about Rice. Then the local guys reported that there was no way, no how any such discussions would lead to the Bills making an offer to Rice. To my surprise, I would not be averse to the Bills signing the guy *if* he could help the team. (Basic take: He did an awful thing, he's paid a substantial price, and he should be allowed to return to his line of work.) I just don't think he can help any NFL team. Quote
shrader Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Quick summary of what Carucci said? Ok, not as quick as the last two posts. The Rice stuff has gotten hilarious. Each time any RB in the league gets hurt, the talking heads immediately cook up that discussion. Edited August 20, 2015 by shrader Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 As did Wawrow. The reports don't conflict per se. Some national guys reported that there were discussions about Rice. Then the local guys reported that there was no way, no how any such discussions would lead to the Bills making an offer to Rice. To my surprise, I would not be averse to the Bills signing the guy *if* he could help the team. (Basic take: He did an awful thing, he's paid a substantial price, and he should be allowed to return to his line of work.) I just don't think he can help any NFL team. Internal discussion about Ray Rice: A: What do you think about Ray Rice? B: No. A: We sure? B: Yep. Not happening. That is one possible "internal discussion" about Ray Rice. Quote
darksabre Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 If I were Kim Pegula I would fire anyone who even dared to mention Ray Rice. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 If I were Kim Pegula I would fire anyone who even dared to mention Ray Rice. Oh FFS. Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Yeah, that's not really how intelligent organizations vet ideas. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Also, such an action by the far better smelling of the two Bills owners would prompt such a disturbance in The Force that PA's Meddling thread would automatically be pinned. Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Sorry, Ray Rice literally punched a woman hard enough to knock her unconscious and then dragged her from an elevator. Sure the Bills could have and may have had in the past players who have committed similar acts, but this one we have video of. It is a very violent crime and how he isn't in jail idk. I want him nowhere near the Bills. Personally I don't like the kid who punched Geno Smith either but a pro athlete punch a woman, that to me is just disgusting. Here let's watch... Edited August 20, 2015 by LGR4GM Quote
darksabre Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Oh FFS. Dude he punched his wife in the face. He's a horrible human being. He should be lucky ANYONE is willing to give him a job doing ANYTHING. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Dude he punched his wife in the face. He's a horrible human being. He should be lucky ANYONE is willing to give him a job doing ANYTHING. He did a horrible, terrible thing. I don't know the man. I'd like to think that is the worst thing he has ever done, and that we are all better than the worst thing we've ever done. Quote
darksabre Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 He did a horrible, terrible thing. I don't know the man. I'd like to think that is the worst thing he has ever done, and that we are all better than the worst thing we've ever done. Who else should we extend that line of thought to? What other types of violent crimes are we giving people mulligans on? Quote
Hank Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Can Ray Rice help the Bills win football games? Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 He did a horrible, terrible thing. I don't know the man. I'd like to think that is the worst thing he has ever done, and that we are all better than the worst thing we've ever done. Whoa. That's really liberating. Not to threadjack, but that is really a great thought. Back to Ray Rice: Not gonna happen. Not worth talking about anymore. Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 So how has the Bills offensive line looked? We are going to be relying on them a lot this year. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Who else should we extend that line of thought to? What other types of violent crimes are we giving people mulligans on? I hold that line of thought as a general principle. People who repeatedly do awful things tend not to get its benefit from me. And I didn't say he should get a mulligan. I should provide some context: I've grown a bit weary of the paradigm that dictates that professional athletes should be subjected to greater scrutiny and more severe penalties than people in other sectors of the work force. It's not even entirely rational. I'm just tired of that whole shtick. I think the fatigue comes from my antipathy with the NFL appointing and branding itself as some bastion of 'Murican virtue (THE SHIELD!). Screw that. I think it also stems from the fact that I don't particularly care whether a player is a model citizen or a good guy (although hooray if he is (see Goodwin)); what I really mostly want is for the player to help my preferred team win games. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Can Ray Rice help the Bills win football games? No, he's been a bad football player for two years, which is why my blood boils every time I hear his name. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Whoa. That's really liberating. Not to threadjack, but that is really a great thought. Hat tip to the human rights lawyer (Brian Stevenson?) who said that in his TED talk (not sure it was his line originally). Quote
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