dudacek Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 I agree. There is no way to predict what the next couple years' roster will look like. I cannot fathom 5 or 6 rooks and 2nd year players on the squad at one time. Several kids that we all are drooling over are going to get moved, or we end up like Edmonton. Yep. We should be thinking: What will Grigorenko Hodgson and the Blues first get us? How about Zadorov, Foligno and Ennis? You know that's what Murray is looking at. The key is keeping the right kids and acquiring the right players to help those kids over the top. Murray's got lots to work with, but he has a helluva big job ahead of him. Quote
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Yep. We should be thinking: What will Grigorenko Hodgson and the Blues first get us? How about Zadorov, Foligno and Ennis? You know that's what Murray is looking at. The key is keeping the right kids and acquiring the right players to help those kids over the top. Murray's got lots to work with, but he has a helluva big job ahead of him. I *don't* know that is what Murray is looking at. I hope it is though. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Not with a $4.6 mil cap hit for this season and the next four. His inability to finish consistently is glaring. Any thoughts that he may be a "top 6" have to be considered wishful thinking at this point. Ennis is a third/fourth line winger, maybe a second unit power play winger. When this franchise turns the corner I just don't see a place for an inconsistent 5' 9" third line winger. He's 25 and in his 5th NHL season, I certainly expect more from Ennis than what he is producing at this point. Ennis doesn't have the best hockey IQ, but his quickness/hands are top notch. If we can play him as a second line winger and actually build a line/team around him, that'd be fine. He's a complimentary piece on a team full of complimentary pieces, doesn't mean he's garbage. He's certainly not a 3rd liner. Quote
dudacek Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 I *don't* know that is what Murray is looking at. I hope it is though. Well, if Murray was being straight when he said he's not planning a five -year rebuild, then it pretty much has to be. Quote
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Well, if Murray was being straight when he said he's not planning a five -year rebuild, then it pretty much has to be. He doesn't have enough of a record for me to assume he's 1. being straight, and 2. capable of pulling it off. Cautious not-quite optimism. Quote
Brawndo Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Does Neuvirth even want to resign here because he maybe suffering from PTSD? Quote
Robviously Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Does Neuvirth even want to resign here because he maybe suffering from PTSD? If you've been battling for a starting job for years and you finally win it somewhere, you might be reluctant to shake the Etch-a-Sketch and start over somewhere else. If the Neuvirth we've been seeing is the real Neuvirth, we'll be ready to pay him. That should help too. Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) I agree What will be really interesting is how they are going to accommodate Grigorenko and Reinhart assuming we get a McEichel. That's the main reason why I think either Ennis or Hodgson — or maybe both — will be gone. I can't see there being much room for either. If not next year certainly the year after. Matty - Cojack - Samson Zemgus - Mikhail - Joel <--- this will be epic line :P Nick (our FA summer signing) - Johan - Brian Marcus - Tim - Cody Nicolas - Patrick Tyler - Josh Rasmus - Nikita Mark - Jake Michal - Andrej almost forgot the goalies. Edited November 10, 2014 by Heimdall Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Does Neuvirth even want to resign here because he maybe suffering from PTSD? Post Traumatic Shot/Save Disorder? I can't see there being much room for either. If not next year certainly the year after. Matty - Cojack - Samson Zemgus - Mikhail - Joel <--- this will be epic line :P Nick (our FA summer signing) - Johan - Brian Marcus - Tim - Cody Nicolas - Patrick Tyler - Josh Rasmus - Nikita Mark - Jake Michal - Andrej almost forgot the goalies. Samson Reinhart won't be a winger unless something goes terribly wrong. Quote
Drunkard Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 I can't see there being much room for either. If not next year certainly the year after. Matty - Cojack - Samson Zemgus - Mikhail - Joel <--- this will be epic line :P Nick (our FA summer signing) - Johan - Brian Marcus - Tim - Cody Nicolas - Patrick Tyler - Josh Rasmus - Nikita Mark - Jake Michal - Andrej almost forgot the goalies. I got everyone except for Nick and Tim. Foligno and Schaller? Quote
Peppy22 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Grigorenko-McDavid(Lets just hope)-Armia Moulson-Gionta-Foligno Girgensons-Reinhart-Bailey Lemieux-Larsson-Deslauriers Kaleta Ristolainen-Gorges always 1 offensive with 1 defensive DMen Myers-Pysyk Zadorov-McCabe Quote
WildCard Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Yep. We should be thinking: What will Grigorenko Hodgson and the Blues first get us? How about Zadorov, Foligno and Ennis? You know that's what Murray is looking at. The key is keeping the right kids and acquiring the right players to help those kids over the top. Murray's got lots to work with, but he has a helluva big job ahead of him. Any team we're making that kind of a trade with is one just starting a rebuild; one with a very weak prospect line and older players looking to be where the Sabers were 2 seasons ago. The Capitals will never undergoe a full rebuild mode so long as Ovie is there and in his prime, and most of the other basement teams with us will have solid prospect pools after this seasons over. So who does that leave us? Teams like New Jersey, San Jose, Vancouver, Arizona, and Carolina. I'm not really sure what vets these teams would be willing to unload to start fresh. Marleau? Staal? Thornton? Quote
pastajoe Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Moulson-McDavid-Gionta Grigorenko-Ennis-Armia Girgensons-Reinhart-Foligno Kaleta-McCormick-Deslauriers Hodgson (who would take his contract?) Myers-Gorges Ristolainen-Pysyk Zadorov-McCabe Weber Quote
inkman Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Moulson-McDavid-Gionta Grigorenko-Ennis-Armia Girgensons-Reinhart-Foligno Kaleta-McCormick-Deslauriers Hodgson (who would take his contract?) Myers-Gorges Ristolainen-Pysyk Zadorov-McCabe Weber Please get Gionta out of the top 6. He barely looks like a NHL player at this pointed alone a top 6 player. As far as Hodgson goes, a $4 million cap hit is almost a pittance for a guy who will produce if paired with decent players. Good players are at $6+ mill, great players $8+ mill. Edited November 10, 2014 by inkman Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 I got everyone except for Nick and Tim. Foligno and Schaller? Yeah Grigorenko-McDavid(Lets just hope)-Armia Moulson-Gionta-Foligno Girgensons-Reinhart-Bailey Lemieux-Larsson-Deslauriers Kaleta Ristolainen-Gorges always 1 offensive with 1 defensive DMen Myers-Pysyk Zadorov-McCabe Grigs is our most natural center we have, would never put him on the wing, probably our go to faceoff guy to. Quote
3putt Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Interesting that Buttons is projecting Reinhart on RW with McDavid at WJC's. Would think he would be at least 2C. http://www.tsn.ca/button-projecting-canada-s-roster-at-wjhc-november-1.124839 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Interesting that Buttons is projecting Reinhart on RW with McDavid at WJC's. Would think he would be at least 2C. http://www.tsn.ca/bu...vember-1.124839 He will be. You don't have that much offensive talent on the wings and move probably canada's second best center to wing. It doesn't make sense. I just hope Baptiste or Bailey make the team and play with him Edited November 10, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote
Peppy22 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Grigs is our most natural center we have, would never put him on the wing, probably our go to faceoff guy to. Usually I wouldnt either. But boy this line would be fun to watch :D Quote
shrader Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 He will be. You don't have that much offensive talent on the wings and move probably canada's second best center to wing. It doesn't make sense. I just hope Baptiste or Bailey make the team and play with him Wouldn't Bailey be on the US team or does he have dual citizenship? Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Wouldn't Bailey be on the US team or does he have dual citizenship? Sorry, I meant Baptiste. You are right Bailey would be USA. I don't know why I said both. Quote
Robviously Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 Sorry, I meant Baptiste. You are right Bailey would be USA. I don't know why I said both. We want both at the WJC. Interested to see what Bailey could do on a talented roster. Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Usually I wouldnt either. But boy this line would be fun to watch :D I'm all in on Girgs+ Grigs as our 2nd line, they complement each other so well, they should marry. :unsure: Edited November 11, 2014 by Heimdall Quote
dudacek Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Reinhart and McDavid played together for a while at last year's WJC. I could be wrong, but I think McDavid was the winger. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted November 13, 2014 Report Posted November 13, 2014 Descent 4th Period article on which players might be in the future plans of the team: http://www.thefourth.../buf141112.html Quote
darksabre Posted November 13, 2014 Report Posted November 13, 2014 Descent 4th Period article on which players might be in the future plans of the team: http://www.thefourth.../buf141112.html Who the heck is David McDavid? Quote
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