Ted Nolan "I learned last week I can't say what/how I feel."

[I am Defecting]

Sydney was said border collie's name, who bolted from the stage when confronted with our passion.

 

The false-Messiah, in a moment of weakness, diverted from the scripted entranced, and pitifully plead with us:

 

Where is my dog? For it was scary for them both, to be so exposed.

[TrueBlueGED]

I must say, I'm surprised this brought you out of semi-retirement, and not Ebola. Legitimately surprised.

[Eleven]

I see you picked up on the vibe too from the game thread.

 

I just want to know who told him.

 

Was it Terry on the phone, munching on some Fiddle Faddle with the cashews in it?

 

Was it Ted B. in his slight alto voice, just after he spent 10 minutes trying to memorize a Marv Levy quote?

 

Was it Battista who told him in his Harvey Firestein voice, then asked Ted to pose for a selfie after the fact that he could tweet out?

 

 

Poor Ted. I'll still love ya if you do what you feel.....

 

Was it the players, who didn't like being called pee-wees?

 

What's the most logical?

 

And what's the biggest jump, which you'll always take?

 

I'm not the biggest Nolan fan (but I'll say he never should have been fired the first time). He'll be gone before the team is good again. But your post lacks a certain degree of "thinking it through." Like ANY degree.

 

Welcome back, I guess.

Edited October 18, 2014 by Eleven

[drnkirishone]

correct me if i am wrong...... but isn't teddy a blood and guts guy? when he was hired wasn't everyone excited about how we wouldn't have to worry about the effort of this team? no more show up for 1 or 2 periods of a game?

[Weave]

correct me if i am wrong...... but isn't teddy a blood and guts guy? when he was hired wasn't everyone excited about how we wouldn't have to worry about the effort of this team? no more show up for 1 or 2 periods of a game?

 

That Ted Nolan is gone. the new Ted Nolan is touchy-feely now.

 

My money is on the current "C" and "A"'s taking issue with the pee wee comment.

[3putt]

Rolston ? Ah, NO. I'd rather have Ted at this point. Lets be real. This team out and out sukcs. Mike friggin Babcock couldn't get more out of this team system or not.

The result is never garaunteed, the 300 eventually lost, but their disciplined execution is legend. Mike Babcock probably wouldn't win with this crew, but he would extract not only effort, but focused effort.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

That Ted Nolan is gone. the new Ted Nolan is touchy-feely now.

 

My money is on the current "C" and "A"'s taking issue with the pee wee comment.

 

So....if that is the case....if you wore a C or an A, how would you like TONIGHT's comment?

 

Ted will communicate how he feels, one way or another. He would have walked for LaFontaine, and I think it was pretty clear from his comments at the time he was not happy and felt there was an unjust departure. I'm sure Patty gave him his blessing and told Nolan to go get it, and not worry about it. At the same time, it was pretty clear he was going to have to swallow some of his pride. A real man can only keep it down so long.

 

Anyone that watched his Latvian teams....I agree with dark, that was a well-coached, inspired, structured enough team. I think poor Ted has been mailing it in here, and i agree with Brawndo as well....he's gonna walk before he gets fired. At this point in life, hell, he just took $2 million salary the past few years.....his son is an NHL player....he will be fine.

 

Is Ted making this comment in response to the media, or the fanbase? He wouldn't give the media the pleasure to think so.

 

Would it be in response to the players taking offense? If it is.... he just bitch-slapped them tonight by saying they are too soft and made the rift public.

 

 

I agree with you as well Weave....this team is Edmonton East. The ONLY way this team has a shot is to burn it down in whole. ANYONE here under the old crew has to go. Myers, Stafford, Hodgson, Foligno.....no more hugs for Pussbags.....wipe it clean. There is no way this team with McDavid and Eichel will even be competitive for a few years. Look at Reinhart. I have only casually watched a few games and forgot he even played for them. He looks like a 9 year old russian boy skeet shooting with his drunk uncles.

 

On a bright note....I LOVE Dunleavy calling the game tonight. He was so honest. "He undressed Myers on that one"....he had about 6 or 7 great digs. RJ, bless his soul, would never break out of homer mode until game 77 or so.

 

Anyhow. God Bless everyone. I will check in once in a blue moon if possible.

[...]

Interesting discussion. I'll admit that when I first heard the "pee wee" comment from Nolan, I thought to myself "someone is going to have a meeting with Ted for that one...", someone being either Black or Murray.

 

Not to get all social commentary here, but it does reflect the difference between the mid-90's and now. He could talk like that then, and, regardless of everything, it wouldn't be the issue it is now.

[Johnny DangerFace]

It was also three games into the season which is kind of stupid

[Stoner]

What does Ted's use of the word "learned" imply? He taught himself a lesson after the way his players responded? Or he was taught a lesson by management? The exact quote, by the way, was "I learned last time I can't say how I feel."

[Johnny DangerFace]

What does Ted's use of the word "learned" imply? He taught himself a lesson after the way his players responded? Or he was taught a lesson by management? The exact quote, by the way, was "I learned last time I can't say how I feel."

 

Or media. One of those three I would assume

[...]

[wjag]

I try and temper my expectations and frustrations. I remind myself it is only game 5. It is too early to judge the team I tell myself but boy do they make this tough. This team on paper is better at forward than last year's team. Should be even to better at defense. They are worse at goalie. So when they play and they demonstrate just the opposite, I get frustrated. I just want to look at the team and see they are incrementally better. Through 5 games, you can't say that.

[nucci]

Nolan has no room to complain about effort when he can't provide direction. He knew the task. Change the direction. Not radically, but put some structure to the rebuild. Teach the youngsters. But that is tough to do when the only direction you can give is what's in your soul. There is no tactical plan game in and game out. It looks like a Chinese fire drill. A monkey can throw a puck on the ice and sit at the podium 60 minutes later. He may a great motivator, but to lead successfully you have to provide direction and I never felt he knew where he wanted to go.

agree. well said

[deluca67]

Maybe he was just referring to all the furor his comments caused.

I know it's too simple for the tin foil hat brigade , but..,,,.

This is it exactly.

 

If anyone spoke to Nolan about his comments I would hope it was the leadership in the locker-room.

[X. Benedict]

Nolan disparaged millions of PeeWee players and their families by comparing them to the Sabres.

 

[bob_sauve28]

I try and temper my expectations and frustrations. I remind myself it is only game 5. It is too early to judge the team I tell myself but boy do they make this tough. This team on paper is better at forward than last year's team. Should be even to better at defense. They are worse at goalie. So when they play and they demonstrate just the opposite, I get frustrated. I just want to look at the team and see they are incrementally better. Through 5 games, you can't say that.

I feel the same way. I feel they really should be better. They have AVERAGE talent throughout the line up but play together way below average. The passing sucks, there is little chemistry and they just don't make plays.

[Stoner]

This is it exactly.

 

If anyone spoke to Nolan about his comments I would hope it was the leadership in the locker-room.

I dunno. Why does Nolan feel he "can't" make those comments again? He's the head coach and players are telling him what he can and can't say? Just a curious way to put it.

[darksabre]

Perhaps calling your players a pee wee team goes against his personal ethos? I think a constructive atmosphere is what he intends to create and he broke his own rules with those comments. I think he feels bad all on his own.

[Eleven]

 

I have no idea what this is or what it is supposed to mean in the context of this thread, but it is hypnotic.

 

Nolan disparaged millions of PeeWee players and their families by comparing them to the Sabres.

 

He was intending to honor the Pee Wee players, Snyder style.

[That Aud Smell]

Nolan disparaged millions of PeeWee players and their families by comparing them to the Sabres.

 

Perfect

[deluca67]

I dunno. Why does Nolan feel he "can't" make those comments again? He's the head coach and players are telling him what he can and can't say? Just a curious way to put it.

You bring veteran players in to be leaders. Effort should fall under their domain. If Nolan feels the effort is lacking then he should go to the leaders and get a real feel for what's going on in he room. Saying it to reporters does nothing but create a divide.

 

We forget because Nolan's name has been around seemingly forever, this is only Nolan's fifth season as an NHL head coach spread out over 19 years. As far as dealing with NHL players, Nolan still has a lot to learn.

[Stoner]

You bring veteran players in to be leaders. Effort should fall under their domain. If Nolan feels the effort is lacking then he should go to the leaders and get a real feel for what's going on in he room. Saying it to reporters does nothing but create a divide.

 

We forget because Nolan's name has been around seemingly forever, this is only Nolan's fifth season as an NHL head coach spread out over 19 years. As far as dealing with NHL players, Nolan still has a lot to learn.

 

But don't you find it interesting that Nolan blurted it out in a moment of frustration? It's like he learned some lesson, didn't like it and wanted everyone to know about it. I have no idea what happened, but with Nolan there's always this vibe of, "hey, uppity Indian, watch what you're doing." Now that's a pee pee that's been slapped a lot.

[darksabre]

But don't you find it interesting that Nolan blurted it out in a moment of frustration? It's like he learned some lesson, didn't like it and wanted everyone to know about it. I have no idea what happened, but with Nolan there's always this vibe of, "hey, uppity Indian, watch what you're doing." Now that's a pee pee that's been slapped a lot.

 

I don't think that's what happened at all. I think he let his emotions get the best of him. We know he's that kind of guy. But if you remember the discussion during the Olympics, it was that he made the players believe that they could win. That's what he was brought in to do here. Change the dumpy locker room atmosphere and get these guys feeling like they might be good hockey players.

 

I don't doubt that vets like Gionta and Moulson have bought into this. Myers too.

 

But by blurting out his frustrations he betrayed what he supposedly stands for. You don't make your players believe in themselves by calling them a Pee Wee team.

[X. Benedict]

 

 

But don't you find it interesting that Nolan blurted it out in a moment of frustration? It's like he learned some lesson, didn't like it and wanted everyone to know about it. I have no idea what happened, but with Nolan there's always this vibe of, "hey, uppity Indian, watch what you're doing." Now that's a pee pee that's been slapped a lot.

National sports media picked up his entertaining comments. He's no victim here. He is a head coach, he's been a head coach. He's got little reason to whine, he knows how this works. They could be scrutinizing his coaching.