That Aud Smell Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 not even close....again As soon as you put together your trade list and it stings a bit to think about, THAT'S the starting point for the other GM. Get used to it, Evander Kane at 23 doesn't become available too often. This offense is complete and utter garbage. Agreed. Whoever and whatever we give up, it is going to hurt a bit. Quote
Lanny Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 My guess would be something like Stewart, 1st & Armia Quote
K8prisoner Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago Taking off soon to go to @NBCSN. Is it possible Evander Kane is traded by time I land? No guarantees, of course, but BUF/WPG are hard at it. Well we are the few that are happy (essential) he won't be lacing them up til next year. If someone mentors this kid, we are three skaters away from actually competing night to night . Or ..The city is filling up w immature jackasses for some horrible critical mass event . It will be interesting . . Quote
CallawaySabres Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 My guess would be something like Stewart, 1st & Armia my exact thought....unless Myers is involved Quote
K8prisoner Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 My guess would be something like Stewart, 1st & Armia Armia is too much and it could hang gmtm Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 On the radio...interesting thought. Given the love that Ryan O'Reilly gets around here and the not so warm show of affection for Kane, who would you rather have? For me Kane. Bigger impact and offensive upside. And I think we get him cheaper given we do a deal now vs O'Reilly in the summer. I think you got it right nfreeman. In a vacuum, I'd rather have O'Reilly, and it's not even close. Doesn't come with the locker room baggage, center versatility, stronger defensive game, and his offense actually is just as good (maybe not potential offense, but actual production). That being said, the price could be prohibitive. Quote
dudacek Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Looking at Winnipeg's roster I can't see why Myers would be on their must have list, unless they have plans to flip RHDs Byfuglien or Bogosian. Quote
K8prisoner Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Have kane move in with incognito.. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 1m1 minute ago Taking off soon to go to @NBCSN. Is it possible Evander Kane is traded by time I land? No guarantees, of course, but BUF/WPG are hard at it. And apparently my preference for O'Reilly is meaningless. The opinion of those in power and the availability of one player trumps my preference. Who knew? Looking at Winnipeg's roster I can't see why Myers would be on their must have list, unless they have plans to flip RHDs Byfuglien or Bogosian. Byfuglien and Kane being at the root of a locker room rift and then being traded to the same team would be the high comedy. Sign me up! :p Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 My guess would be something like Stewart, 1st & Armia my exact thought....unless Myers is involved Armia is too much and it could hang gmtm I think the consideration suggested above is spot on. Maybe a bit rich, but, given my bias, that probably means it's really close. Quote
bunomatic Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 If its as close as Bmac n Dregger are reporting it looks like I'll have a lot of catching up to do when I get home from work on sabrespace. Quote
Huckleberry Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 This is buffalo1000, I have told about the tallinder trade and a few more before they have happened. This trade is ready to happen,sabres will announce tomorrow if they make the trade. Winnipeg has already signed off Tyler myers Drew stafford Joel armia Brendan Lemieux 2nd rounder For Evander kane Zach bogosian 1 st rounder I guarantee you this has been presented and up to sabres to agree - Buffalo39 someone on hockeybuzz throwing this around, i think we overpay if this happens. armia + lemieux is nuts. Quote
K8prisoner Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 They will regret lemiex and armia especially to get a headache that is more interested in cash than winning . Any myers ? Unreal Rather have Larkin and keep our two possibilities Quote
Huckleberry Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 They will regret lemiex and armia especially to get a headache that is more interested in cash than winning . Any myers ? Unreal Rather have Larkin and keep our two possibilities Also myers > bogosian , then you give a way armia + lemieux + stafford + 2 nd rounder, for a one time 30 goal scorer. I'd do stafford + late 1st rounder + Armia but that is about it. Quote
thewookie1 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 This is buffalo1000, I have told about the tallinder trade and a few more before they have happened. This trade is ready to happen,sabres will announce tomorrow if they make the trade. Winnipeg has already signed off Tyler myers Drew stafford Joel armia Brendan Lemieux 2nd rounder For Evander kane Zach bogosian 1 st rounder I guarantee you this has been presented and up to sabres to agree - Buffalo39 That seems really steep in cost, no thx Quote
dudacek Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 someone on hockeybuzz throwing this around, i think we overpay if this happens. armia + lemieux is nuts. Deals that large almost never happen. That said, Bogosian fills Myers spot in the lineup. After that, it's essentially Kane and a mid-first for four late firsts/early seconds Quote
Sam Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Not read every comment here but people seem to think it'd be Myers + for Kane, however I think it'd be the opposite; Myers would beast it in the Peg where he wouldn't have the pressure of being the main man and could focus on his own game, while Kane's value is at an all-time low and while I also think he'd be a lot better in Buffalo than in Winnipeg, there's still a lot more question marks over Kane's head than there is Myers. Plus I don't think WPG would do Kane for Myers straight up as they're losing a winger and gaining another defender, where it's known Byfuglien will be playing full-time next year. Would something like Kane + one of their roster defenders (Harrison/Stuart/Clitty) work for Myers plus one of our UFA wingers in Stewart or Stafford? Or would you want to up it a bit and include Enstrom, which would mean sending more back their way, maybe NYI's or STL's first as well as Stafford? Quote
Iron Crotch Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Evander Kane isn't a defensive liability. He is (or more correctly "was") used as a penalty killer by the Jets. Quote
Sam Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 gary lawless garylawless 1m1 minute agohearing the deal being framed between #nhljets and #sabres is multi-player on both ends. So E Kane and more from Winnipeg Quote
thewookie1 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I'll do... Tyler MyersDrew Stafford BUF 2nd rounderForEvander kaneZach bogosian1st rounder Quote
Samson's Flow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 gary lawless garylawless 1m1 minute ago hearing the deal being framed between #nhljets and #sabres is multi-player on both ends. So E Kane and more from Winnipeg Way too much smoke out there to not hae somthing going on. If this is the case, the only way IMO that Winnipeg is sending Kane + is ifthe Sabres are including Myers. Then we send a forward rental and forward prospect and get a defender back. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 gary lawless garylawless 1m1 minute ago hearing the deal being framed between #nhljets and #sabres is multi-player on both ends. So E Kane and more from Winnipeg Damn. I was hoping to get some work done this morning. Now, no way. :D Quote
respk Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 This is buffalo1000, I have told about the tallinder trade and a few more before they have happened. This trade is ready to happen,sabres will announce tomorrow if they make the trade. Winnipeg has already signed off Tyler myers Drew stafford Joel armia Brendan Lemieux 2nd rounder For Evander kane Zach bogosian 1 st rounder If Murray makes this trade, I'll lose a little faith in him as a GM. Take out Armia & Lemieux, with them in it I'm not sure we are any better after this trade long term. I have a hard time understanding Myers in a trade for Kane but Myers, Stafford and a 2nd or even a first would be palatable. I still think its an overpayment though. I'd prefer taking out Myers and inserting Stewart or even Ennis. Quote
Sam Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Kane is a supreme penalty killer. Anyway, that's what I proposed in my last post on the last page; it'd be something like Kane + Postma/Clitty for Myers + Stewart, or something. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 This is fun. We NEED some Sabres fun. Quote
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