2014 Sabres Training Camp

[That Aud Smell]

I know reviews on Hamilton here are mixed. I often find him insightful. I heard him talking about Reinhart last night, and he gave an earnest and well-considered view on why the kid should be headed back to juniors. Hamilton's principal concerns are (1) he does not yet have the proverbial "man's body" and (2) he has shown a tendency to expose himself to big hits at the pro level (such as when Girgensons dialed him up at the prospect camp). In addition to which, PH offered rhetorically "What's the rush?"

 

PH also allowed that his views in this regard make him a "dinosaur." I'm not so sure. Like PH, I say Reinhart gets the courtesy look to start the season, and then gets sent back to the WHL.

[Weave]

I know reviews on Hamilton here are mixed. I often find him insightful. I heard him talking about Reinhart last night, and he gave an earnest and well-considered view on why the kid should be headed back to juniors. Hamilton's principal concerns are (1) he does not yet have the proverbial "man's body" and (2) he has shown a tendency to expose himself to big hits at the pro level (such as when Girgensons dialed him up at the prospect camp). In addition to which, PH offered rhetorically "What's the rush?"

 

PH also allowed that his views in this regard make him a "dinosaur." I'm not so sure. Like PH, I say Reinhart gets the courtesy look to start the season, and then gets sent back to the WHL.

 

Just think, if Reinhart gets sent back to juniors we get to look forward to Brian Flynn as a #3, and Cody McCormick as #4 center again. :rolleyes:

[LGR4GM]

Just think, if Reinhart gets sent back to juniors we get to look forward to Brian Flynn as a #3, and Cody McCormick as #4 center again. :rolleyes:

Johan Larsson.

[X. Benedict]

I know reviews on Hamilton here are mixed. I often find him insightful. I heard him talking about Reinhart last night, and he gave an earnest and well-considered view on why the kid should be headed back to juniors. Hamilton's principal concerns are (1) he does not yet have the proverbial "man's body" and (2) he has shown a tendency to expose himself to big hits at the pro level (such as when Girgensons dialed him up at the prospect camp). In addition to which, PH offered rhetorically "What's the rush?"

 

PH also allowed that his views in this regard make him a "dinosaur." I'm not so sure. Like PH, I say Reinhart gets the courtesy look to start the season, and then gets sent back to the WHL.

 

I think he gets his 9 games for coffee, gets sent down for juniors, and world juniors, called up for Amerks playoffs.

[nfreeman]

I know reviews on Hamilton here are mixed. I often find him insightful. I heard him talking about Reinhart last night, and he gave an earnest and well-considered view on why the kid should be headed back to juniors. Hamilton's principal concerns are (1) he does not yet have the proverbial "man's body" and (2) he has shown a tendency to expose himself to big hits at the pro level (such as when Girgensons dialed him up at the prospect camp). In addition to which, PH offered rhetorically "What's the rush?"

 

PH also allowed that his views in this regard make him a "dinosaur." I'm not so sure. Like PH, I say Reinhart gets the courtesy look to start the season, and then gets sent back to the WHL.

 

Fine with me, but I think it's a bit more likely they keep him in Buffalo.

 

Just think, if Reinhart gets sent back to juniors we get to look forward to Brian Flynn as a #3, and Cody McCormick as #4 center again. :rolleyes:

 

I was randomly wondering last night if Flynn was still on the team...

 

However, TN spoke pretty highly of him last year, so he'll probably end up where you're predicting.

 

Johan Larsson.

 

You've been beating the drum for Larsson for a while now. I've seen him do the same amount of good things on the ice as I've seen from Griggy -- i.e. zero. What are your reasons for advocating for Larsson?

[Huckleberry]

Oh don't get me wrong, when i say grigorenko will light up the camp, I truly mean as a #2 center.

That spot is wide open, don't even get why many would put Reinhart at #3C , the guy is just like grigorenko, top 6 forward or going down again.

[Weave]

Early lines in camp:

 

 

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  Your
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  practice groups for today. Sam Reinhart between Marcus Foligno and Chris Stewart in Group A.
  
  
   
  
  
  Some other notable
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  practice lines: Moulson, Ennis, Stafford; Hodgson, Girgensons, Gionta; Deslauriers, McCormick, Kaleta.
  
  
  
  

 

That would be pretty good protection for Sam.

[shrader]

I think he gets his 9 games for coffee, gets sent down for juniors, and world juniors, called up for Amerks playoffs.

 

Does that burn a year of his contract? I don't know the specifics of ATO/PTO contracts at the AHL level and if a guy can play on one if he has already played games that already counted towards the NHL contract.

[Weave]

Does that burn a year of his contract? I don't know the specifics of ATO/PTO contracts at the AHL level and if a guy can play on one if he has already played games that already counted towards the NHL contract.

 

9 games does not burn a contract year.

[Samson's Flow]

9 games does not burn a contract year.

I think shrader was referring to the AHL Amerk playoffs callup. IIRC once your junior season ends, you can continue playing in the AHL for the reaminder of the season. The timing is generally right around when AHL playoffs occur.

[nfreeman]

Early lines in camp:Your

#

Sabres

practice groups for today. Sam Reinhart between Marcus Foligno and Chris Stewart in Group A.

 

Some other notable

#

Sabres

practice lines: Moulson, Ennis, Stafford; Hodgson, Girgensons, Gionta; Deslauriers, McCormick, Kaleta.

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That would be pretty good protection for Sam.

 

So:

 

Reinhart-Foligno-Stewart

Ennis-Moulson-Stafford

Zemgus-Hodgson-Gionta

McC-Deslauriers-Kaleta.

 

 

Am I crazy for kinda looking forward to seeing those lines in action?

[Derrico]

@Heimdall - I personally feel Reinhart should be sent back this season but I put him there in my projections based on TM saying he has already dominated that league and basically has nothing left to learn.

[SwampD]

 

So:

 

Reinhart-Foligno-Stewart

Ennis-Moulson-Stafford

Zemgus-Hodgson-Gionta

McC-Deslauriers-Kaleta.

 

 

Am I crazy for kinda looking forward to seeing those lines in action?

yes

[That Aud Smell]

Just think, if Reinhart gets sent back to juniors we get to look forward to Brian Flynn as a #3, and Cody McCormick as #4 center again. :rolleyes:

 

i have no problem with mccormick as a 4th line center for ~50 games out of the year. i like him on the team in that role.

 

rostering flynn, OTOH, is a sure sign that your team is a bottom feeder. which would be fine by me this year.

 

So:

 

Reinhart-Foligno-Stewart

Ennis-Moulson-Stafford

Zemgus-Hodgson-Gionta

McC-Deslauriers-Kaleta.

 

Am I crazy for kinda looking forward to seeing those lines in action?

 

It is perfectly understandable to want to see our team play -- however the lines are structured. I don't care that we're pegged to be a bottom-5 team. I'm just excited that hockey's back. I may not feel that way in mid-November, but, whatever. For now: Da sun iz shininggg. It iz a byoo-tih-full dayyy. Let's get Cup Cah-ray-zee Two Tow-zen.

 

Picture of today's groups from Vogl:

 

[nfreeman]

yes

 

 

It is perfectly understandable to want to see our team play -- however the lines are structured. I don't care that we're pegged to be a bottom-5 team. I'm just excited that hockey's back. I may not feel that way in mid-November, but, whatever. For now: Da sun iz shininggg. It iz a byoo-tih-full dayyy. Let's get Cup Cah-ray-zee Two Tow-zen.

 

Picture of today's groups from Vogl:

 

 

But (I think) it's not just wanting to see our team -- those lines kinda strike me as having more potential than we've had in a while -- especially if Reinhart is the real deal.

 

Separately: it looks like Weber is ahead of Pysyk on the depth chart, at least for now.

[Eleven]

I wonder what the different fonts for the forwards is supposed to mean. Some are bold, some are reversed.

[Campy]

I wonder what the different fonts for the forwards is supposed to mean. Some are bold, some are reversed.

Kevin Oklobzija ‏@kevinoDandC 1m

Regarding the #Sabres camp roster: some line combos appear shaded, others in light type face due to color coding. Except copies are B&W.

[SwampD]

But (I think) it's not just wanting to see our team -- those lines kinda strike me as having more potential than we've had in a while -- especially if Reinhart is the real deal.

 

Separately: it looks like Weber is ahead of Pysyk on the depth chart, at least for now.

I was just kidding. I agree. I think our team will be better this year than last and I kinda agree with the wookie. 40 more goals seems about right to me, which is still pretty bad.

Edited September 19, 2014 by SwampD

[shrader]

I think shrader was referring to the AHL Amerk playoffs callup. IIRC once your junior season ends, you can continue playing in the AHL for the reaminder of the season. The timing is generally right around when AHL playoffs occur.

 

That is what I'm talking about and I just looked around and answered my own question. The CBA specifically mentions 10 "NHL games". So those AHL playoffs wouldn't matter given. I got it mixed up with the free agency rules which essentially count AHL and NHL games played in the same category.

[Hoss]

Risto down to 205 from 230 last year.

[Samson's Flow]

Anyone planning on going to any of the camp practices? I might wander down this afternoon during my lunch break since I normally walk down to the harbor anyways.

 

Doubt it will be very exciting, but its hockey so whatever.

[That Aud Smell]

Risto down to 205 from 230 last year.

 

That was the other thing PH talked about last night: He said that Risto went to the Sabres training staff when he was assigned to Roc and asked how he could best go about being leaner, stronger, faster, etc. -- with the idea being that he did not want to stay in Roc for any longer than necessary.

 

The results are in apparently. I think that kid is going to be a stud.

[Weave]

Risto down to 205 from 230 last year.

 

Ya think they want him skating more and not hitting as much? PP QB of the future.

[darksabre]

 

 

Ya think they want him skating more and not hitting as much? PP QB of the future.

 

The guy who makes Tyler Myers expendable I hope.

[Derrico]

The thing I am most looking forward to this year is watching Risto. He looked the best at development camp (and it wasn't even close) and I've heard good things regarding his play at the most recent tourney. A kid at his age with his size, if he can get the drive to be the best he can be then he'lll end up a monster.

 

I see a bunch of potential with Zadorov as well. I may be off on this but the main difference between those two right now may be attitude and work ethic. Risto lost a bunch of weight and Zads gained. Was the offseason program for Zads really to gain weight?