Eleven Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I wasn't clear. I know why he's getting the attention. He's a minor celebrity. Maybe it wasn't right to call it a perp walk, unless someone in the investigation tipped off the media. I guess what I'm asking is why Vanek would be brought in as a witness, above so many others. Number of bets? Amount of bets? Someone called a Rochester TV station and tipped it off that Vanek was in federal court. Could be a passerby, could be a clerk at the courthouse, could be anyone. Why is he brought in? Possibly volume; possibly to show that the ring extended to betting a certain sport (Austrian soccer?) or something like that. It's really pure speculation. It's [puts on sunglasses] anybody's bet. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I wasn't clear. I know why he's getting the attention. He's a minor celebrity. Maybe it wasn't right to call it a perp walk, unless someone in the investigation tipped off the media. I guess what I'm asking is why Vanek would be brought in as a witness, above so many others. Number of bets? Amount of bets? My guess is he bet on Hockey, and has a deal to seal that evidence in exchange for his testimony. Quote
papazoid Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 The report alleges that while a member of the Islanders, Vanek endorsed a pay-check in the amount of $230,000 to Mark Ruff to cover a gambling debt. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/30/report-thomas-vanek-involved-in-money-laundering-scandal/ Quote
Hoss Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22689-vanek-in-roc-court/page__st__40 Hadnt seen much on this story in a while, but it looks like they have proof on Vanek now. Ruh roh. Edited October 31, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote
wjag Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 There goes the Hockey Hall of Fame ;) Quote
bcsaberks Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Posted October 31, 2014 Update http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/10/30/internet-gambling-plea-rochester-mark-ruff/18168767/ Wolford said after the plea that the $230,000 was a small portion of the overall debt owed by the gambler who paid with an Islanders check. The total of the debt was more than $1 million, he said. You'd think the Islanders would offer direct deposit. Quote
Jsixspd Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Headlines involving Vanek and Ruff again.... imagine that? Quote
PASabreFan Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Headlines involving Vanek and Ruff again.... imagine that? It would have been worse, but Ruff limited the amount of money Vanek could bet. Too soon? Quote
Marvelo Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Interesting. That and the Austrian Olympic hockey team drinking scandal while captain, the Edmonton offer sheet, the Montreal playoff follies all adds up to a player with a defective character, although supremely talented hands. Quote
inkman Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Interesting. That and the Austrian Olympic hockey team drinking scandal while captain, the Edmonton offer sheet, the Montreal playoff follies all adds up to a player with a defective character, although supremely talented hands. He's a jerky because Edmonton opened the brinks truck for him? Don't tell me he didn't have to sign, it was $50 million. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 The report alleges that while a member of the Islanders, Vanek endorsed a pay-check in the amount of $230,000 to Mark Ruff to cover a gambling debt. http://prohockeytalk...dering-scandal/ I never really pegged Vanek as a guy prone to excessive vices -- and yet, there's the boozing at the Olympics and now gambling debts into multiple six-figures. Weird. Quote
SwampD Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 I never really pegged Vanek as a guy prone to excessive vices -- and yet, there's the boozing at the Olympics and now gambling debts into multiple six-figures. Weird. Makes me like him even more. Quote
PASabreFan Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 It all makes sense now. Looking up at the board. The Vanek Face. He was seeing the out of town scores. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 It all makes sense now. Looking up at the board. The Vanek Face. He was seeing the out of town scores. :clapping: Quote
nfreeman Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 It all makes sense now. Looking up at the board. The Vanek Face. He was seeing the out of town scores. Very nice. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Makes me like him even more. Makes me think he's a bit of a creep. I'm not a big fan of people who seem to present one way, and then have contrary stuff going on behind closed doors. Whatever. It all makes sense now. Looking up at the board. The Vanek Face. He was seeing the out of town scores. This is just a gem. Quote
dudacek Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 It all makes sense now. Looking up at the board. The Vanek Face. He was seeing the out of town scores. This and the Pegula crack on the Horton thread. My man, you are on fire. :clapping: Quote
inkman Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Makes me think he's a bit of a creep. I'm not a big fan of people who seem to present one way, and then have contrary stuff going on behind closed doors. Whatever. Did you want him to walk around with a coffin nail hanging out of his mouth, wearing a Caesars Palace t - shirt with a flask of JD in his back pocket? Quote
SwampD Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Makes me think he's a bit of a creep. I'm not a big fan of people who seem to present one way, and then have contrary stuff going on behind closed doors. Whatever. In a world where Patrick Kane was slammed for CELEBRATING WINNING THE FREAKIN" STANLEY FREAKIN' CUP!!!, can you blame him. Do our athletes have to be Puritanical robots? They aren't allowed to be people and have fun and make mistakes. And if they do there will be some TMZ type douchebag to exploit their fall. [/minirant] Quote
spndnchz Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 Update http://www.democrata...-ruff/18168767/ Wolford said after the plea that the $230,000 was a small portion of the overall debt owed by the gambler who paid with an Islanders check. The total of the debt was more than $1 million, he said. You'd think the Islanders would offer direct deposit. So if he owed a mill but only paid 230k he's ahead by 800k? Sweet. Quote
X. Benedict Posted October 31, 2014 Report Posted October 31, 2014 So if he owed a mill but only paid 230k he's ahead by 800k? Sweet. Maybe even dropped the dime? :lol: Quote
spndnchz Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/11/04/thomas-vanek-mark-ruff-gambling-ring-extortion/18470801/ Quote
Hoss Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Extortion of Vanek possible, for those that are wondering what that link is/too lazy to open it. Quote
pastajoe Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Did they threaten to make Vanek stay with the Sabres if he didn't pay? Quote
qwksndmonster Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Did they threaten to make Vanek stay with the Sabres if he didn't pay? Ruff threatened to play Vanek on a line with Luke Adam and Drew Stafford if he didn't pay. Needless to say, Vanek never stepped out of line again. Quote
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