French Collection Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 They'll make the playoffs but are not entering with any momentum. Could end up being a decent pick, not like 25th, which was the scenario a short while ago. Quote
Stoner Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I think the Rangers got in their head. Back in February, the Isles were up by two in the third period and the Rangers, still pretty far back of them in the standings, scored three straight goals to win. Then the Rangers got hot and made a big deal at the deadline and never looked back. The Isles sat on their hands. "We like our team" Darcy style. That, and Tavares has absolutely dried up. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I think the Rangers got in their head. Back in February, the Isles were up by two in the third period and the Rangers, still pretty far back of them in the standings, scored three straight goals to win. Then the Rangers got hot and made a big deal at the deadline and never looked back. The Isles sat on their hands. "We like our team" Darcy style. That, and Tavares has absolutely dried up. ...did you just call Tavares menopausal? Quote
tom webster Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 They'll make the playoffs but are not entering with any momentum. Could end up being a decent pick, not like 25th, which was the scenario a short while ago. Ah, the old momentum myth. I have no idea how this all plays out but history has shown that how you enter the playoffs has little to do with the success you achieve Quote
Stoner Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Ah, the old momentum myth. I have no idea how this all plays out but history has shown that how you enter the playoffs has little to do with the success you achieve I recently looked at the final 20 regular season games of the eventual Cup champions since the lockout and posted the data in a thread. I can't remember which one. A few teams were "on fire" at the end, but the general trend was a strong, solid finish. FWIW, no one limped home the way they Islanders are. I'll try to find the thread if you're interested. Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Â I think all that crap is right. Â (I have too much time on my hand) Quote
Huckleberry Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 So if the playoffs started today it would be Isles and Pens.  I think that one would go deep and the Pens would win.  I wouldn't be so sure about that, pens have been struggling to make it passed the first round last 2 years and with Letang now out with concussion. Quote
tom webster Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I recently looked at the final 20 regular season games of the eventual Cup champions since the lockout and posted the data in a thread. I can't remember which one. A few teams were "on fire" at the end, but the general trend was a strong, solid finish. FWIW, no one limped home the way they Islanders are. I'll try to find the thread if you're interested. Â Â I would like to see that. While Cup winners is obviously a good example, I remember looking up some similar data regarding teams that won in the first round and it went about 50/50. I think eventually talent wins out but initially, it is more about match ups and adjustments. I remember Lindy's first two years and the team finished horribly before entering the playoffs and making a couple of runs Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I would like to see that. While Cup winners is obviously a good example, I remember looking up some similar data regarding teams that won in the first round and it went about 50/50. I think eventually talent wins out but initially, it is more about match ups and adjustments. I remember Lindy's first two years and the team finished horribly before entering the playoffs and making a couple of runs  I have no clue if it is a myth or not either.  Definitively lots of examples, but you hockey is a streaky sport.  So you would think it would lead into the playoffs, but I dont know.  Quote
Stoner Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Cup champs since lockout, last 20 regular season games.06 -- Carolina -- 9-8-307 -- Anaheim -- 15-4-108 -- Detroit -- 12-6-209 -- Pittsburgh -- 15-2-310 -- Chicago -- 11-6-311 -- Boston -- 10-6-412 -- LA -- 12-5-313 -- Chicago -- 13-5-214 -- LA -- 12-6-2 Quote
Hoss Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I would say Carolina certainly limped and Boston went .500. Otherwise it pretty much just says what you'd expect: good teams player well deep into the season and playoffs. Quote
Eleven Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 I would say Carolina certainly limped and Boston went .500. Otherwise it pretty much just says what you'd expect: good teams player well deep into the season and playoffs. Yeah, Carolina limped. McKee limped more. Otherwise that list would be different. Quote
Hoss Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Yeah, Carolina limped. McKee limped more. Otherwise that list would be different. I was going to make that joke but felt it was too depressing. Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) capitals up 2 with 10 minutes to go, and islanders give up a goal a minute into the game.  Bruins also up fast.  We need a perfect sweep today (go caps, bruins, and senators)   islanders down 2 (3 minutes into the first).  lol islanders score 2 to tie it up in the next 2 minutes    edit: 6 goals in the first 10 minutes.  And detroit missed a true open netter a few seconds ago.  These teams arent the best at the D right now Edited March 29, 2015 by Vlad Dangerslakov Quote
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Isles just gave Howard a job opportunity... Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) haha, it looks like a good chance the islanders finalize their playoff birth (unofficially) today   Detroit's defense is so slow, and islanders defense is just poor Edited March 29, 2015 by Vlad Dangerslakov Quote
wjag Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Good game between Isles and Wings.  They could swap positions in the standings after today (sink Isles, sink) Actual trivia question during today's Det-NYI game  Sabres-Isle games 1982.  Three players had the Gordie Howe,  who were they? Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 thats that! Â Now let's root for NYI to keep not winning and hope 3-4 teams can pass them on the standings Quote
tom webster Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Good game between Isles and Wings. They could swap positions in the standings after today (sink Isles, sink)  Actual trivia question during today's Det-NYI game  Sabres-Isle games 1982.  Three players had the Gordie Howe, who were they? I'd love to hear the answer but here is another one for you. How many did Gordie have in his career? Quote
tom webster Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 2 Exactly although I guess there are still some argument about a possible third. That and the fact he only had 22 fights in his career seems to run counter to the rep. Still a tough sob Quote
Stoner Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Absolutely incredible update on Gordie Howe's recovery: Â http://www.toledoblade.com/frontpage/2015/03/01/Hockey-legend-s-recovery-highlights-stem-cell-advances.html Quote
3putt Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Exactly although I guess there are still some argument about a possible third. That and the fact he only had 22 fights in his career seems to run counter to the rep. Still a tough sobNo doubt. Cherry did a bit many moons ago, about the need for enforcers, and said that the owner in Detroit had to sit Gordie down and explain to him that he was not a ham and egger but a star like Richard. He said "we're different, I don't skate as pretty." Cherry went on to posit that had they let Howe continue to settle his own scores it would have set the bar for judging all superstar players. I disagree, but I found it interesting. Quote
bunomatic Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 No doubt. Cherry did a bit many moons ago, about the need for enforcers, and said that the owner in Detroit had to sit Gordie down and explain to him that he was not a ham and egger but a star like Richard. He said "we're different, I don't skate as pretty." Cherry went on to posit that had they let Howe continue to settle his own scores it would have set the bar for judging all superstar players. I disagree, but I found it interesting. Gordie is one of a kind. Tough as nails. I wonder how many chiklets his elbow knocked out back in the day ? Quote
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