nfreeman Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Moulson Reinhart Gionta Foligno Ennis Stafford Hodgson Girgensons Stewart Mitchell McCormick Kaleta Flynn Larsson That's probably as good as we want to be up front. Well, I think I'd rather see Reinhart in juniors and Legwand in his slot, but still... I'd be kinda looking forward to opening night. I must be crazy. Quote
Campy Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m Moulson has NTC in deal with Sabres Quote
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 This plus Gorges waiving to come here really does say something. OTOH, Matty will be 31 in November and had 17 goals in 64 games last year, plus a real injury. I can live with the $5MM per year, but the 5-year term does concern me a little. you beat me to it by seconds. I hate the term. Guy is on the downside of his career now - must be one hell of a locker room guy to want to tie themselves to a depreciating asset this long, especially since he isn't tough at all and plays mostly a perimeter game we don't want our guys to emulate. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Well, I think I'd rather see Reinhart in juniors and Legwand in his slot, but still... I'd be kinda looking forward to opening night. I must be crazy. You predicted playoffs last year....so yes :P Quote
X. Benedict Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) 5x5? I don't care about the money now, but I don't want to be using 5 mil of cap space on this guy in 5 years. I give this deal two thumbs down. In 5 years that might be just chump change over league avg. Edited July 1, 2014 by X. Benedict Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 5x5? I don't care about the money now, but I don't want to be using 5 mil of cap space on this guy in 5 years. I give this deal two thumbs down. I don't see us being anywhere near cap trouble In 5 years so it shouldn't be an issue Quote
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Well, I think I'd rather see Reinhart in juniors and Legwand in his slot, but still... I'd be kinda looking forward to opening night. I must be crazy. I'm right there with you. I watched Leggy play here in Nashville for many years and he is a very, very good player. Let the kids develop in juniors and in Rochester instead of throwing them to the wolves at 18 year olds. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 you beat me to it by seconds. I hate the term. Guy is on the downside of his career now - must be one hell of a locker room guy to want to tie themselves to a depreciating asset this long, especially since he isn't tough at all and plays mostly a perimeter game we don't want our guys to emulate. I get the concern, but it beats the pants off of overpaying for Orpik like many wanted to. At least Moulson can still play for a few years in the worst case scenario. Quote
MattPie Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Sweet Jeebus, these all seem like good moves with reasonable (if a little over) payments. I don't know how to fit this into the "Everyone hates Buffalo" framework. Oh wait, yes I can: the league is slipping these guys money to make sure Buffalo finishes at #4 and misses out on McDavid/Eichel. Order restored in my head. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 you beat me to it by seconds. I hate the term. Guy is on the downside of his career now - must be one hell of a locker room guy to want to tie themselves to a depreciating asset this long, especially since he isn't tough at all and plays mostly a perimeter game we don't want our guys to emulate. Moulson plays a perimeter game? You sure you have the right guy? Quote
nfreeman Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 you beat me to it by seconds. I hate the term. Guy is on the downside of his career now - must be one hell of a locker room guy to want to tie themselves to a depreciating asset this long, especially since he isn't tough at all and plays mostly a perimeter game we don't want our guys to emulate. Well, he's not a hitter, to be sure, but, like Briere, he scores 'em from the "dirty areas" -- he doesn't linger around the half-wall. I think TM must be thinking that either or both of Stafford and Stewart will likely be gone after this year, and Reinhart and (hopefully) Eichel will need a good finisher on the wing. (And I think Moulson is thinking the same thing.) But back on the bad-contract concerns: he's also apparently getting a NTC -- eeesh. Quote
dudacek Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Term is an issue for Matty in the back two years, but $5 million won't be a huge issue if the cap keeps going up. Matty singing the praises of the Pegulas and Teddy Nolan. Likes teams direction. They have a good group of young talent part of the reason he want to be there "so badly" is he believes in the direction. He's just a good guy. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 5x5? I don't care about the money now, but I don't want to be using 5 mil of cap space on this guy in 5 years. I give this deal two thumbs down. Who will need that money in 5 years? Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Well, he's not a hitter, to be sure, but, like Briere, he scores 'em from the "dirty areas" -- he doesn't linger around the half-wall. I think TM must be thinking that either or both of Stafford and Stewart will likely be gone after this year, and Reinhart and (hopefully) Eichel will need a good finisher on the wing. (And I think Moulson is thinking the same thing.) But back on the bad-contract concerns: he's also apparently getting a NTC -- eeesh. Thought I'd put it here, it must have ended up in the FAF thread. This is the ONLY contract thst looks bad in 4 years. TM can work w/ that when the kids are starting to gel. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Murray is awesome... Scotty @ScottySlice 1m "Looking back: the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick for Mitchell, Gorges, a 2nd-round pick, Moulson and McCormick."@ScarpalTunnel Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 I think it's pretty obvious we are building around prospects so having a vet take up 5 mil when the first few of our top prospects cheap entry level contracts end isn't too bad. Quote
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Moulson plays a perimeter game? You sure you have the right guy? yup. Yes he will dart in for a scoring opportunity but he is not a possession player capable of forechecking and playing a power game, which is the kind of team TM is building. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Murray is awesome... Scotty @ScottySlice 1m "Looking back: the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick for Mitchell, Gorges, a 2nd-round pick, Moulson and McCormick."@ScarpalTunnel Love it!! Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 I took a nap and woke to this!!! So happy. I love this guy and think he is an excellent player! Can't believe he came back. Wow, Murray was not kidding when he said Buffalo was becoming a place where players like playing. Awesome move! :wub: Quote
Bob Malooga Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Murray is awesome... Scotty @ScottySlice 1m "Looking back: the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick for Mitchell, Gorges, a 2nd-round pick, Moulson and McCormick."@ScarpalTunnel Who was the draft pick in that deal? We technically got Gorges, Mitchell, and WHO...for Moulson and McCormick? Edited July 1, 2014 by Bob Malooga Quote
korab rules Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Who will need that money in 5 years? I think it's pretty obvious we are building around prospects so having a vet take up 5 mil when the first few of our top prospects cheap entry level contracts end isn't too bad. In year 5 of that contract we should be challenging for a cup. That 5 mill in cap space could be the difference between us bringing in someone to put us over the top, or not being able to. Moulson will be 36 by then, and we know what happens to smallish goal scorers when they hit 30. I would have rather they paid him 3 years 21 mill or even 4 years at whatever. That 5th year really sticks in my craw. Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 Today is awesome. Yes, today is awesome! Quote
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