Eleven Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Just think if Grigorenko actually rises to his potential. In two years, we could be looking at: McDavid/Eichel Reinhart Hodgson Girgensons Grigorenko Ennis Ennis can go back to wing. Hodgson can play wing if he can't get better in his own end. This team could actually be solid at the position! Quote
Taro T Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Just think if Grigorenko actually rises to his potential. In two years, we could be looking at: McDavid/Eichel Reinhart Hodgson Girgensons Grigorenko Ennis Ennis can go back to wing. Hodgson can play wing if he can't get better in his own end. This team could actually be solid at the position! Now that DR is gone, his stated goal of building out to wings last might finally be happening. If someone out of the mess of goalie prospects steps up, G, D, & C could all be pretty solid. It's been a long 7 years. Quote
wjag Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Just think if Grigorenko actually rises to his potential. In two years, we could be looking at: McDavid/Eichel Reinhart Hodgson Girgensons Grigorenko Ennis Ennis can go back to wing. Hodgson can play wing if he can't get better in his own end. This team could actually be solid at the position! With all the attention they have been paying to drafting Centers, I hope a few emerge, Ennis back to wing and third line would suit me just fine. Quote
SDS Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 With all the attention they have been paying to drafting Centers, I hope a few emerge, Ennis back to wing and third line would suit me just fine. Not sure Ennis fits into any long term plan here. Quote
Hoss Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 I think Hodgson is very likely to play wing long-term. If Reinhart makes the team this year I could see CH on the wing now and forever. Quote
wjag Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Not sure Ennis fits into any long term plan here. I was being generous. It's third line or nothing for me. Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 Not sure Ennis fits into any long term plan here. I was being generous. It's third line or nothing for me. Given space, I think he can be a decent scorer. Kind of like Briere. Quote
SDS Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Given space, I think he can be a decent scorer. Kind of like Briere. Briere could finish. Lack of finish has been Ennis' calling card. I don't see him as center and I think his days are numbered. Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 Briere could finish. Lack of finish has been Ennis' calling card. I don't see him as center and I think his days are numbered. I would much prefer him on the wing, which, if Grigo can get it together, just may happen. Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Same i don't have much fate in Ennis, all depends on what happens with Grigorenko i guess. Mcdavid - Reinhart would be our 1 - 2 punch anyways. Seeing Grigorenko is a natural center, i don't know he fits 3rd line duty very well. Edited June 28, 2014 by Heimdall Quote
dudacek Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I think we can all see Mcdavid/Reinhart/Girgensons as a Stanley Cup winning combination. But we are a long way from McDavid, so Grigorenko, Hodgson and Ennis still have to be accounted for into that equation. And you can't overlook Compher either. Grigs can't play wing, but the other three can, and so can Reinhart. A trade will be necessary, but its a good problem to have. Edited June 28, 2014 by dudacek Quote
Iron Crotch Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 CoHo played wing at the world championships, and I'm pretty sure the plan is to leave him there (i.e. this year). I assume Ennis will move back to wing as soon as we have a better center option (may take a year or two). Quote
inkman Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Didn't Girgensons play wing most of the year. I know I've heard rumblings his game may be more suited for the wing. Quote
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Didn't Girgensons play wing most of the year. I know I've heard rumblings his game may be more suited for the wing. Lots of centers play wing their rookie year. Roy is an example. Girgensons split time, but Nolan used him at C in the Olympics. I've heard the same rumblings, but I like him at center. Edited June 29, 2014 by Eleven Quote
inkman Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I think we can all see Mcdavid/Reinhart/Girgensons as a Stanley Cup winning combination. But we are a long way from McDavid, so Grigorenko, Hodgson and Ennis still have to be accounted for into that equation. And you can't overlook Compher either. Grigs can't play wing, but the other three can, and so can Reinhart. A trade will be necessary, but its a good problem to have. If Grigo figures it out (and y'all know where I stand on that) but If he does I could see Rinehart as a third line center. He's supposed to be defensively responsible. Quote
Taro T Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 If Grigo figures it out (and y'all know where I stand on that) but If he does I could see Rinehart as a third line center. He's supposed to be defensively responsible. IF Grigs figures it out and the Sabres (or better yet the Isles) are truly as awful as expected, then this team truly is following Lombardi's example: Eichel, Reinhart, Grigs, & Gergs on paper compare very favorably to Kopitar, Carter, Stoll, & Richards. Quote
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 IF Grigs figures it out and the Sabres (or better yet the Isles) are truly as awful as expected, then this team truly is following Lombardi's example: Eichel, Reinhart, Grigs, & Gergs on paper compare very favorably to Kopitar, Carter, Stoll, & Richards. I like the fact that we're focusing on Eichel, since it's a 75%-80% chance that's who we'll see here. Quote
nfreeman Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I think Ennis is more likely to be here, and be a good player, over the long term than Hodgson is. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I think Ennis is more likely to be here, and be a good player, over the long term than Hodgson is. Me too. I was way down on Ennis earlier this year, but watching him continue to create plays on a terrible team changed my mind on him. Once he's back on the wing on a real line he'll be fine. Quote
drnkirishone Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 i really don't understand the love for Ennis on the wing. unless the system they are gonna play lets Ennis get out of the zone earlier and stay off the walls I don't like him as a winger. I will say i liked some of that little guy nastiness Ennis was displaying at times last year. reminded me of Audette or Verbeek Quote
Iron Crotch Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 i really don't understand the love for Ennis on the wing. unless the system they are gonna play lets Ennis get out of the zone earlier and stay off the walls I don't like him as a winger. I will say i liked some of that little guy nastiness Ennis was displaying at times last year. reminded me of Audette or Verbeek I think it is just a matter of the league trending toward big, physical centers. Defensively, a little guys like Ennis doesn't match up well against big guys like Thornton, Toews, Kopitar, etc. Quote
LaLaLaFontaine Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 If we get Eichel or McDavid, we will trade Grigo, because this is what GMTM does: Draft well, Trade good picks, ( Sign UFA to bring you over the top) and he does not like Russians. Quote
drnkirishone Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I think it is just a matter of the league trending toward big, physical centers. Defensively, a little guys like Ennis doesn't match up well against big guys like Thornton, Toews, Kopitar, etc. but other then a faceoff centers don't typically do 1 on 1 coverage with each other. defensively imho the small guy is at a bigger disadvantage along the walls. middle of the ice is where I want my smaller quick skaters Quote
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