Eleven Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 What was Colorado doing on that play ? Last year we talked about players eventually quitting on a screamer like Roy. Has it already happened ? Subban had just come out of the box and the puck was on its way because Montreal had cleared it. One defenseman did catch up with him, but, as GCoE notes, he skated right into the post. Quote
WildCard Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Nichushkin sent to the IR for a groin injury. Hurts the Stars, but somewhere Lindy's smiling that he doesn't have to play another young Russian The Dallas Stars placed forward Valeri Nichushkin (groin) on injured reserve and recalled defenseman Jyrki Jokipakka from Texas of the American Hockey League, the team announced Sunday. Nichushkin, 19, hasn't played since Oct. 11 and is pointless in two games with a minus-1 rating. He scored 14 goals and 34 points in 79 games as a rookie last season. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=735259&navid=nhl:topheads Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 Chris Johnston The NHL has suspended #LAKings defenceman Slava Voynov indefinitely following his arrest on a domestic violence charge. Oh that's how you are supposed to handle issues like this... take note NFL. Quote
Eleven Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Chris Johnston The NHL has suspended #LAKings defenceman Slava Voynov indefinitely following his arrest on a domestic violence charge. Oh that's how you are supposed to handle issues like this... take note NFL. Before we get too holier than thou, let's remember that Varlamov was not suspended last season. The NHL is learning from the NFL's mistake; it is not ahead of the curve. Quote
X. Benedict Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Chris Johnston The NHL has suspended #LAKings defenceman Slava Voynov indefinitely following his arrest on a domestic violence charge. Oh that's how you are supposed to handle issues like this... take note NFL. McNabb has been playing a simple game for LA. He'll get more minutes. Voynov gets a lot of minutes. That's a lot off speed off their back end. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Yes, I know this is a knee-jerk reaction with little (read: no) knowledge of the facts....BUT FOR ###### SAKE DON'T LAY HANDS ON WOMEN/CHILDREN HOW ###### HARD IS THIS!?!?! Quote
Hoss Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Chris Johnston The NHL has suspended #LAKings defenceman Slava Voynov indefinitely following his arrest on a domestic violence charge. Oh that's how you are supposed to handle issues like this... take note NFL. I mean they probably did this because of what happened in the NFL... They didn't exactly respond when Varlamov was arrested. Yes, I know this is a knee-jerk reaction with little (read: no) knowledge of the facts....BUT FOR ###### SAKE DON'T LAY HANDS ON WOMEN/CHILDREN HOW ###### HARD IS THIS!?!?! For real. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Domestic Violence is not a crime in Russia. Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 And the Varlamov situation turned out to be nothing. Good thing they didn't suspend him. The NHL should form its own identity and not take after (or improve on) somebody else's mistakes. Hey Gary I've got news for you......... THIS ISN'T THE NFL! Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 And the Varlamov situation turned out to be nothing. Good thing they didn't suspend him. The NHL should form its own identity and not take after (or improve on) somebody else's mistakes. Hey Gary I've got news for you......... THIS ISN'T THE NFL! I think if there is enough evidence for you to be arrested, you should be suspended with pay pending the investigation. Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Yes, I know this is a knee-jerk reaction with little (read: no) knowledge of the facts....BUT FOR ###### SAKE DON'T LAY HANDS ON WOMEN/CHILDREN HOW ###### HARD IS THIS!?!?! 53% of domestic violence is done by women, 70% is initiated by women. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 53% of domestic violence is done by women, 70% is initiated by women. Could you provide a link? Even if it's in Korean? Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 53% of domestic violence is done by women, 70% is initiated by women. 85% of Domestic Violence Victims are women. http://www.ncadv.org/files/DomesticViolenceFactSheet%28National%29.pdf Quote
Hoss Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 And the Varlamov situation turned out to be nothing. Good thing they didn't suspend him. The NHL should form its own identity and not take after (or improve on) somebody else's mistakes. Hey Gary I've got news for you......... THIS ISN'T THE NFL! Actually, the general thoughts on the Varlamov deal was that he did beat her but she went for kidnapping charges when it just wasn't that. Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 I think if there is enough evidence for you to be arrested, you should be suspended with pay pending the investigation. Fair enough. But I don't think there was enough evidence at the time the suspension was handed out. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know I'd be pissed if my workplace reputation was discredited by a suspension or firing because I got charged with something that didn't happen. Then again the NHL isn't a 40 hour job and the players did agree to the suspension guidelines that were used regardless of what 'innocent until proven guilty' means. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 Fair enough. But I don't think there was enough evidence at the time the suspension was handed out. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know I'd be pissed if my workplace reputation was discredited by a suspension or firing because I got charged with something that didn't happen. Then again the NHL isn't a 40 hour job and the players did agree to the suspension guidelines that were used regardless of what 'innocent until proven guilty' means. If I was arrested for domestic violence I would immediately be placed on leave without pay so I think Voynov has a pretty good deal going. To your second point, you are exactly correct. He agreed to those terms when he signed a contract and the NHL did exactly what they should have. Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 If I was arrested for domestic violence I would immediately be placed on leave without pay so I think Voynov has a pretty good deal going. To your second point, you are exactly correct. He agreed to those terms when he signed a contract and the NHL did exactly what they should have. And I don't agree with you getting put on leave either. If the NHL is so certain he did something wrong, suspend him without pay. If they're not certain he shouldn't be suspended. Yes, it's in the contract and it's a judgment call. But it's a bad judgment. That's just my two cents. ;) Quote
biodork Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Bruins' Miller out indefinitely after dislocating his shoulder on Sat. night: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/20/bruins-miller-out-indefinitely-after-dislocating-shoulder-in-fight/ Not sure whether that happened during the fight with Deslauriers or if he just landed badly when they hit the ice. Quote
X. Benedict Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Bruins' Miller out indefinitely after dislocating his shoulder on Sat. night: http://prohockeytalk...ulder-in-fight/ Not sure whether that happened during the fight with Deslauriers or if he just landed badly when they hit the ice. I think it was the ice. Ouch. Except for that, props to deslauriers, Miller is a tough customer. I gave Miller a slight edge in the actual fight. Quote
Brawndo Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Bruins' Miller out indefinitely after dislocating his shoulder on Sat. night: http://prohockeytalk...ulder-in-fight/ Not sure whether that happened during the fight with Deslauriers or if he just landed badly when they hit the ice. I did find this tweets by Amalie Benjamin a Bruins Beat Reporter amusing. Amalie Benjamin @AmalieBenjamin · Oct 18 Kevan Miller's first bout of the season. Didn't players learn not to fight him last year? Followed by So apparently you shouldn't fight Kevan Miller because he will get injured Edited October 20, 2014 by BRAWNDO Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 53% of domestic violence is done by women, 70% is initiated by women. 1) I'm very confident those numbers are either completely inaccurate, or compiled in a way that renders them invalid. 2) So what? "Women do bad things too!" really isn't a rebuttal to my "don't touch women/children" comment. Misdirection at its finest (or worst, depending on perspective). Quote
Eleven Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 1) I'm very confident those numbers are either completely inaccurate, or compiled in a way that renders them invalid. 2) So what? "Women do bad things too!" really isn't a rebuttal to my "don't touch women/children" comment. Misdirection at its finest (or worst, depending on perspective). Heimdall is not from the US. Let's take a breather. Quote
drnkirishone Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Heimdall is not from the US. Let's take a breather. domestic violence only happens in the US? not sure what you are getting at with that. Quote
Andrew Amerk Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Slava backwards is Avals. Deep. Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 1) I'm very confident those numbers are either completely inaccurate, or compiled in a way that renders them invalid. 2) So what? "Women do bad things too!" really isn't a rebuttal to my "don't touch women/children" comment. Misdirection at its finest (or worst, depending on perspective). Your first point can be said by any statistic. Secondly, i had an abusive father untill i was 6, so I am all for the don't touch women/children. Just saying often domestic violence isn't as clearcut as it often looks. I have two buddies who had abusive girlfriends in their life, try not hitting a women when she is physically hurting you, and for some men mental triggers are enough. Probably shouldn't have thrown those numbers out there , don't really feel like a debate over this anyways. Quote
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