TrueBlueGED Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 The ISS isn't a fan website. They claim to have actual expertise and shouldn't overreact like this. Those "in the business" are often times the worst offenders.
Hoss Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 Those "in the business" are often times the worst offenders. You mean like some media members suddenly thinking Hackett should be considered for Bills head coach based solely on the fact that Fred Jackson said he was held back? Yea, you're probably right. :P
mphs mike Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 I understand the sentiment about not drafting from the Q but I sure am glad Imlach took a chance on that Perreault kid
Crusader1969 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 Hey, who was it that said that he wouldn't be surprised if Werenski and Provorov pass Kylington? Still not 100% sold with Crouse as #3 but he is an intriguing prospect. Friday night, Erie plays London on Sportsnet here in Canada. Will be good game to see Stome, McDavid, Baptiste and Marner
MattPie Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 Hey, who was it that said that he wouldn't be surprised if Werenski and Provorov pass Kylington? Still not 100% sold with Crouse as #3 but he is an intriguing prospect. Friday night, Erie plays London on Sportsnet here in Canada. Will be good game to see Stome, McDavid, Baptiste and Marner It's tough to be sold on a prospect that has an NHL body in Juniors. He'll be decidedly average size in the NHL, will his game translate.
Derrico Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 I'm not sure 6'4 is average size in the NHL. I also think the key is he actually uses his size. When Myers came out I remember us being so happy that the Sabres finally had someone with size but it was said multiple times one of his knocks is he doesn't play overly physical for that size. I'm sure Crouse won't be as bullish his rookie year as he is in juniors but I think some guys either have the ability/instinct to play physical or they don't. He has it and looks like a guy that would be a huge asset come playoff time. Not to mention his speed which I think is incredible for his size. Once again, please don't anyone confuse this with me wanting him with a top 5 pick.
dudacek Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 I'm not sure 6'4 is average size in the NHL. I also think the key is he actually uses his size. When Myers came out I remember us being so happy that the Sabres finally had someone with size but it was said multiple times one of his knocks is he doesn't play overly physical for that size. I'm sure Crouse won't be as bullish his rookie year as he is in juniors but I think some guys either have the ability/instinct to play physical or they don't. He has it and looks like a guy that would be a huge asset come playoff time. Not to mention his speed which I think is incredible for his size. Once again, please don't anyone confuse this with me wanting him with a top 5 pick. What Derrico said. He projects to be a 6'5" 230 pounder winger who forechecks like Girgensons and might have a similar skill set. Not the elite skill package we need most, but there is a lot to like there.
LGR4GM Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Posted January 7, 2015 What Derrico said. He projects to be a 6'5" 230 pounder winger who forechecks like Girgensons and might have a similar skill set. Not the elite skill package we need most, but there is a lot to like there. Tons to like. Just not enough for a top 5 pick and not sure there is enough for a top 10 pick.
bob_sauve28 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2015/ Oliver?
ubkev Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2015/ Oliver? This would be about the worst thing that could ever happen to the Sabres... Ever I don't have time to look it up right now, but I think they've gone 0 for the century on Sabres picks. Edited January 7, 2015 by ubkev
dudacek Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 If that's what we walk away with after all this suffering we might as well become Islanders fans.
respk Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 To endure two bad seasons and come away with anything other than 1 of the top 2 spots in the draft would be very, very disappointing. Selecting a Defenseman at all could set the rebuild back a year or two. The sabres really need the scoring that McEichel should provide in either goals or assists. Even to get Crouse, who appears to be ranked third in some rankings, would be a big drop off from McEichel.
inkman Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 This would be about the worst thing that could ever happen to the Sabres... Ever I don't have time to look it up right now, but I think they've gone 0 for the century on Sabres picks. The other firsts were a G and another D. Is this guy even trying?
.55. Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Werenski slides to 29th? It must have taken a lot of effort to write down names and drop them in a hat, but otherwise no... the guy isn't even trying. Maybe it's an old rank?
3putt Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Sick day today and spent way too much time watching YouTube highlight videos. The more I watch, the more I am warming to Marner. Undeniable skill, and while not optimum sized, he plays big. Also, in many of the videos he is on Domi's line and they are similarly sized.
darksabre Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2015/ Oliver?
Eleven Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 The other firsts were a G and another D. Is this guy even trying? No. This site is some thrown-together click bait. It's a shame that it even is posted here. Those of you who haven't clicked and are considering it, well, do the world a favor and don't.
Brawndo Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Craig Button's Post WJC Draft Rankings http://www.tsn.ca/cr...d-neck-1.177115 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Marner 4. Strome 5. Hanifin 12. Crouse Edited January 8, 2015 by BRAWNDO
Hoss Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 I stand corrected on Hanifin. I didn't believe that there was a reason for him to fall, but it appears as though the opinion on him being firmly planted at three has changed quickly.
Robviously Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Craig Button's Post WJC Draft Rankings http://www.tsn.ca/cr...d-neck-1.177115 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Marner 4. Strome 5. Hanifin 12. Crouse Marner blowing away the rest of the OHL finally got him to #3. Strome keeping a 1.4 ppg pace after McDavid got hurt put him ahead of Hanifin too, I guess. Trading up for our 2nd pick of 2015 would be appeal in this scenario too, with Rantanen (11), Crouse (12), Harkins (13), Boeser (15), Zacha (17), and Barzal (18). And Korostelev at #46 (!!!!!!!!).
LastPommerFan Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 I'm keeping my eye on Kailer Yamamoto for 2016. This kid MUST be drafted by the Sabres.
Brawndo Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Marner blowing away the rest of the OHL finally got him to #3. Strome keeping a 1.4 ppg pace after McDavid got hurt put him ahead of Hanifin too, I guess. Trading up for our 2nd pick of 2015 would be appeal in this scenario too, with Rantanen (11), Crouse (12), Harkins (13), Boeser (15), Zacha (17), and Barzal (18). And Korostelev at #46 (!!!!!!!!). I was surprised ISS had Crouse at three based mostly on his WJC Play. I am the farthest thing from a NHL Scout, but Marner has more points in the past six games then Crouse has all season (granted he has only played 24 games).
LGR4GM Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Posted January 8, 2015 Craig Button's Post WJC Draft Rankings http://www.tsn.ca/cr...d-neck-1.177115 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Marner 4. Strome 5. Hanifin 12. Crouse That looks closer to reality. I was surprised ISS had Crouse at three based mostly on his WJC Play. I am the farthest thing from a NHL Scout, but Marner has more points in the past six games then Crouse has all season (granted he has only played 24 games). Crouse has NHL size. Marner however has NHL skill. Crouse is the safer of the two picks but Marner has higher upside.
dudacek Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Marner is a safe pick. Only question is he Pat Kane or Tyler Ennis?
WildCard Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Marner is a safe pick. Only question is he Pat Kane or Tyler Ennis? Can't really afford to miss this draft. A miss here could put us back years, or blow our shot entirely.
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