Stoner Posted November 26, 2014 Report Posted November 26, 2014 Yes he was. Do you remember how and why his career in Buffalo ended? Eric Lindros was a big-un.
Robviously Posted November 26, 2014 Report Posted November 26, 2014 Eric Lindros was a big-un. True. It can happen to anyone, especially with all the blatant head-hunting that the NHL allows. All the more reason to build around guys who are heads are not level with everyone else's shoulders.
Hoss Posted November 26, 2014 Report Posted November 26, 2014 Sorry but two years of tanking has me brainwashed into believing that anything but McEichel is going to be a huge letdown. In fact another win tonight, and I may go into hiding. :lol: Because it would be a letdown.
inkman Posted November 26, 2014 Report Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Jagr was a dbag as a kid too. Just sayin. And most of his adult life too. Wouldn't have ever wanted that big butted mulleted freak on my team either. I want ###### on my team just not the kind of ###### like Jagr. Zacha sounds like my kinda ######. Edited November 26, 2014 by inkman
shrader Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 True. It can happen to anyone, especially with all the blatant head-hunting that the NHL allows. All the more reason to build around guys who are heads are not level with everyone else's shoulders. How did it wind up happening to Lindros anyway? I don't remember the specifics
Weave Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 How did it wind up happening to Lindros anyway? I don't remember the specifics Scott Stevens
Taro T Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 Scott Stevens On a hit that was perfectly legal, and even celebrated, at the time; but that would now get him 5-10 games.
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 Prospect Recap November 18th to November 25th OHL Marner, Mitch RW Erie 2GP 7G 3A Konecny, Travis C Ottawa 3GP 5G 3A Strome, Dylan C Erie 2GP 3G 3A Korostelev, Nikita RW Sarnia 3GP 2G 2A Andersson, Rasmus D Barrie 3GP 1G 1A Crouse, Lawson LW Kingston 3GP 1G 0A Franzén, Gustaf C Kitchener 2GP 0G 0A Graham Knott LW Niagara 2GP 0G 0A Spencer, Matthew D Peterborough 3GP 0G 1A Stephens, Mitchell C Saginaw 3GP 1G 1A Zacha, Pavel C Sarnia 2GP 0G 1A Speers, Blake C Sault Ste. Marie 3GP 1G 1A
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 Prospect Recap November 18th to November 25th QMJHL Brisebois, Guillaume D Acadie-Bathurst 2GP 0G 0A Meloche, Nicolas D Baie-Comeau 2GP 2G 1A Chlapik, Filip C Charlottetown 2GP 0G 0A Sprong, Daniel RW Charlottetown 2GP 2A 0A Roy, Nicolas C Chicoutimi 2GP 1G 1A Carrier, Alexandre D Gatineau 2GP 0G 1A Meier, Timo RW Halifax 2GP 2G 2A Noel, Nathan C Saint John 2GP 0G 0A Zboril, Jakub D Saint John 2GP 0G 2A Yan, Dennis RW Shawinigan 2GP 0G 3A
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 Disclaimer...I know nothing about Marner except what I read here. 5'10" 165 lbs with a top 5 pick?? :o Patrick Kane from the Knights - 5-10 162lbs seems to have turned out ok
LGR4GM Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Posted November 27, 2014 Patrick Kane from the Knights - 5-10 162lbs seems to have turned out ok If Marner gets near 62goals and 83 assists this year than you can compare him to Kane. Marner has a ton of upside but if I draft 4th I am still looking at Strome or Zacha (yes I know he was suspended). Kane got those stats in 58 total games. Currently Marner is 21g, 23a through 23 games. So he could do it.
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 I was more comparing size but there is a chance Marner gets into Kane territory. He is currently avg 1.91PPG however in last 9 games he is scoring at a 3.11PPG clip. Kane avg 2.5PPG in the 06-07 Season. Kane also played his draft year perdominately as a 18 year old (Nov bd) while Mitch wont turn 18 till near the draft (May BD)
LGR4GM Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) I was more comparing size but there is a chance Marner gets into Kane territory. He is currently avg 1.91PPG however in last 9 games he is scoring at a 3.11PPG clip. Kane avg 2.5PPG in the 06-07 Season. Kane also played his draft year perdominately as a 18 year old (Nov bd) while Mitch wont turn 18 till near the draft (May BD) I like Marner, just not sure if he can do what Kane does. That's the best part of the draft year. End of November you can be unsure but come April he could be the go to guy post McEchel. I know you were comparing size. We have had conversations around about how smaller players need to produce more in Juniors to be valuable NHL contributors. So what I was looking at was his size compared to his scoring. Kane was small but scored on a high level. If Marner while being smaller can do the same thing, then he has the potenial to be a solid or great NHL player. He would most likely switch to wing at the NHL level. Marner is 5'11" so he could add another inch or two by the draft and easily 20lbs. Edited November 27, 2014 by LGR4GM
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Sherry Basin (Erie Otters GM) on Sabres Hockey Hotline: He brings up Hanifin after being asked about the Eichel / McDavid debate. here is what he said about Noah Hanifin: "He is as a good of a defenceman as I’ve ever had or ever had my team play against. He can skate, he can do so many things - he is unbelievable and he is 6-2” Edited November 27, 2014 by Crusader1969
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Prospect Recap November 18th to November 25th WHL Gabrielle, Jesse LW Brandon 4GP 1G 3A Provorov, Ivan D Brandon 4GP 0G 4A Pilon, Ryan D Brandon 4GP 0G 1A Merkley, Nick C Kelowna 3GP 1G 3A Karnaukhov, Pavel LW Calgary 3GP 1G 0A Bittner, Paul LW Portland 2GP 1A Musil, Adam C Red Deer 3GP 1G 1A Gropp, Ryan LW Seattle 2GP 0G 1A Edited November 27, 2014 by Crusader1969
Crusader1969 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Posted November 27, 2014 NCAA Eichel, Jack C Boston U 3GP 1G 3A Hanifin, Noah D Boston College 2GP 1G 2A Greer, Anthony John LW Boston U 3GP 0G 1A Werenski, Zack D Michigan 2GP 0G 2A USHL Connor, Kyle C Youngstown 2G 0G 1A
Robviously Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Sherry Basin (Erie Otters GM) on Sabres Hockey Hotline: He brings up Hanifin after being asked about the Eichel / McDavid debate. here is what he said about Noah Hanifin: "He is as a good of a defenceman as I’ve ever had or ever had my team play against. He can skate, he can do so many things - he is unbelievable and he is 6-2” Here's a scenario: The Sabres end up with the no.3 pick. They take Hanifin. What do you do with the rest of the draft? The Sabres defense will be set up for the next decade but we'll still need help on offense. And the Blues and Islanders picks might not be until 20-30 range in the first round. At that point, I want the Sabres doing everything they can to move up to get in a position to take Strome (assuming Strome keeps up his pace during the McDavid injury). Or Marner or Barzal (top ten picks who will be long gone by the STL or NYI picks). Or even Svechnikov or Korostelev (top 20 guys). Basically, if you get Hanifin, move heaven and earth to also add someone with all-star potential up front.
Stoner Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Here's a scenario: The Sabres end up with the no.3 pick. They take Hanifin. What do you do with the rest of the draft? The Sabres defense will be set up for the next decade but we'll still need help on offense. And the Blues and Islanders picks might not be until 20-30 range in the first round. At that point, I want the Sabres doing everything they can to move up to get in a position to take Strome (assuming Strome keeps up his pace during the McDavid injury). Or Marner or Barzal (top ten picks who will be long gone by the STL or NYI picks). Or even Svechnikov or Korostelev (top 20 guys). Basically, if you get Hanifin, move heaven and earth to also add someone with all-star potential up front. Every time a post like this is written, one puppy and one kitten, one in each hand, is drowned in a bucket of tepid water.
Robviously Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Every time a post like this is written, one puppy and one kitten, one in each hand, is drowned in a bucket of tepid water. Leave my personal life out of this.
LGR4GM Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Posted November 28, 2014 Here's a scenario: The Sabres end up with the no.3 pick. They take Hanifin. What do you do with the rest of the draft? The Sabres defense will be set up for the next decade but we'll still need help on offense. And the Blues and Islanders picks might not be until 20-30 range in the first round. At that point, I want the Sabres doing everything they can to move up to get in a position to take Strome (assuming Strome keeps up his pace during the McDavid injury). Or Marner or Barzal (top ten picks who will be long gone by the STL or NYI picks). Or even Svechnikov or Korostelev (top 20 guys). Basically, if you get Hanifin, move heaven and earth to also add someone with all-star potential up front. If I draft Hanafin at 3 I am moving Tyler Myers for something in the 7-14 range. Personally I think our other two picks will be in the 16-22 range where there will probably be some 1st line talent still.
Crusader1969 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Here's a scenario: The Sabres end up with the no.3 pick. They take Hanifin. What do you do with the rest of the draft? The Sabres defense will be set up for the next decade but we'll still need help on offense. And the Blues and Islanders picks might not be until 20-30 range in the first round. At that point, I want the Sabres doing everything they can to move up to get in a position to take Strome (assuming Strome keeps up his pace during the McDavid injury). Or Marner or Barzal (top ten picks who will be long gone by the STL or NYI picks). Or even Svechnikov or Korostelev (top 20 guys). Basically, if you get Hanifin, move heaven and earth to also add someone with all-star potential up front. I agree that they Should move both the Blues and Islanders Picks to move up the draft board into the top 10 and get a high end scorer. Assuming both make the playoffs we can pray that they both lose out in round 1 and have two picks in the mid to late teens. If you take Hanifin, I would also try to figure out how to get Larkin out of Detroit (or another high end prospect winger a year or two into their pro careers) in a package deal that would include Myers. Edited November 28, 2014 by Crusader1969
Crusader1969 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) TOP 60 Prospects Heading into December - Avg rankings of 9 sources Rank 1 - 14 1) McDavid, Connor 1.00 2) Eichel, Jack 2.00 3) Hanifin, Noah 3.00 4) Strome, Dylan 6.55 5) Zacha, Pavel 6.77 6) Kylington, Oliver 7.33 7) Marner, Mitch 7.33 8) Barzal, Mathew 8.55 9) Connor, Kyle 11 10) Werenski, Zack 11.22 11) Konecny, Travis 11.88 12) Crouse, Lawson 12 13) Sprong, Daniel 12.66 14) White, Colin 13.22 After the top 3 Strome, Zacha, Kylington, Marner are in a tight group that are battling for picks 4 through 8. There is a bit of a drop off after the 8th pick where the next group of 6 make up picks 9 through 14 Edited December 1, 2014 by Crusader1969
Derrico Posted December 1, 2014 Report Posted December 1, 2014 Sure seems like a consensus top 3 right now. Although I wonder if Hanifin falls a spot or two on draft day due to player position, similar to Seth Jones a couple of years back.
Crusader1969 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) TOP 60 Prospects Heading into December - Avg rankings of 9 sources Rank 15-30 15 Roy, Jérémy 15.88 16 Svechnikov, Yevgeni 16.33 17 Rantanen, Mikko 19.22 18 Merkley, Nick 26.55 19 Bracco, Jeremy 29.11 20 Harkins, Jansen 30.44 21 Boeser, Brock 31.44 22 Roy, Nicolas 34.33 23 Provorov, Ivan 35.11 24 Greenway, Jordan 37 25 Zboril, Jakub 40.88 26 Novak, Thomas 41.33 27 Bittner, Paul 44.22 28 Korostelev, Nikita 50.88 29 Spencer, Matthew 52 30 Brisebois, Guillaume 63.33 Edited December 1, 2014 by Crusader1969
Crusader1969 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Posted December 1, 2014 Rank 30 - 60 31) Gropp, Ryan 32) Speers, Blake 33) Beauvillier, Anthony 34) Knott, Graham 35) Musil, Adam 36) Vande Sompel, Mitchell 37) Cernak, Erik 38) Chlapik, Filip 39) Yan, Dennis 40) Pilon, Ryan 41) Trenin, Yakov 42) Fischer, Christian 43) Spacek, Michael 44) Carlo, Brandon 45) Lööke, Jens 46) Meier, Timo 47) Saarela, Aleksi 48) Andersson, Rasmus 49) Ahi, Filip 50) Meloche, Nicolas 51) Larsson, Jacob 52) Chabot, Thomas 53) Carlsson, Gabriel 54) Nättinen, Julius 55) Juulsen, Noah 56) Wotherspoon, Parker 57) Noel, Nathan 58) Gabrielle, Jesse 59) Kase, David 60) Dunn, Vince
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