Johnny DangerFace Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Prospect InformationUpdated 3/1/2015Prospect - A player under 25 who has not yet acquired a permanent spot at the NHL level and who's expected ceiling is at the NHL level. Once a player has played a full season at the NHL level, and is not expected to have to earn a spot in the following year, then they are no longer a prospect.2014-2015 Graduates = Rasmus Ristolainen, Nikita Zadorov, Nicolas Deslauriers, Matt Hackett 2014-2015 "Removals" = Samuels-Thomas(1) Sam ReinhartCenter, 19, 6-1 185, CanadianPlayer Type: Two-Way/Playmaker (RH)Current League: WHL - Kootenay Ice (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA (Contract can slide one year if he plays less than 10 NHL games 2014-2015)Acquired: Drafted 2014 Rd.1 (Pick 2)(2) Mikhail GrigorenkoCenter, 20, 6-3 200, RussianPlayer Type: Scorer/Playmaker (LH)Current League: NHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.1 (Pick 12)(3) Mark PysykDefensemen, 23, 6-1 188, CanadianPlayer Type: Offensive Defensemen (RH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.1 (Pick 23)(4) Hudson FaschingRight Winger, 19, 6-3 215, AmericanPlayer Type: Scorer/Power Forward (RH)Current League: NCAA - University of Minnesota (Sophomore)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Trade with Kings (Drafted 2013 - Rd.4)(5) Jake McCabeDefensemen, 21, 6-1 200, AmericanPlayer Type: Two-way Defensemen (LH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.2 (Pick 44)(6) Nicholas BaptisteRight Winger, 19, 6-1 200, CanadianPlayer Type: Scorer/ Physical Two-Way Forward (RH)Current League: OHL - Erie Otters (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in OHLAcquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.3 (Pick 69) (7) Justin BaileyRight Winger, 19, 6-3 190, AmericanPlayer Type: Scorer/Power-Forward (RH)Current League: OHL - Kitchener Rangers (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 52) (8) Johan LarssonCenter, 22, 5-10 200, SwedishPlayer Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)Current League: NHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFA Acquired: Trade with Wild (Drafted 2010 - Rd.2) (9) JT CompherCenter, 19, 5-10 180, AmericanPlayer Type: Playmaker (RH)Current League: NCAA - Univ. of Michigan (Sophomore)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 35) (10) Linus UllmarkGoalie, 21, 6-3 198, SwedishCurrent League: SHL - MODOContract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Draft 2012 Rd.6 (Pick 163) (11) Cal PetersenGoalie, 20, 6-1 174, AmericanCurrent League: NCAA - Univ. of Notre Dame (Freshman)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 129) (12) William CarrierLeft Winger, 20, 6-2 196, CanadianPlayer Type: Playmaker/Two-Way Forward (LH)Current League:AHLContract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Trade with Blues (Drafted 2013 - Rd.2) (13) Connor HurleyCenter, 19, 6-0 178, AmericanPlayer Type: Playmaker (LH)Current League: NCAA – University of Notre Dame (Freshman)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 38)(14) Eric CornelCenter, 18, 6-2 188, CanadianPlayer Type: Two-Way Forward (RH)Current League: OHL - Peterborough Petes (AHL Eligible = 2016 - 2017 season)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in OHLAcquired: Draft 2014 Rd.2 (Pick 44)(15) Gustav PosslerLeft Winger, 20, 6-1 181, SwedishPlayer Type: Scorer (LH)Current League: SHL - MODOContract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 3 more yearsAcquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 130) (16) Brycen MartinDefensemen, 18, 6-2 188, CanadianPlayer Type: Offensive Defensemen (LH)Current League: WHL - Swift Current BroncosContract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in QMJHLAcquired: Drafted 2014 Rd.3 (Pick 74) (17) Tim SchallerLeft Winger, 24, 6-2 209, AmericanPlayer Type: Grinder (LH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: 2013 Free Agent (18) Vaclav KarabacekLeft Winger, 18, 6-0 183, Czech RepublicPlayer Type: Scorer (LH)Current League: QMJHL - Gatineau Olympiques (AHL Eligible = 2016 - 2017 season)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in QMJHLAcquired: Draft 2014 Rd.2 (Pick 49) (19) Chad RuhwedelDefensemen, 24, 5-11 187, AmericanPlayer Type: Defensive Defensemen (RH)Current League: AHLContract: Two years remaining, then RFAAcquired: 2013 Free AgentPerformance: Reaching Expectations (20) Andrey MakarovGoalie, 21, 6-1 193, RussianCurrent League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: 2012 Free Agent (21) Sean MaloneCenter, 19, 5-11 180, AmericanPlayer Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)Current League: NCAA – Harvard (Sophomore)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.6 (Pick 159) (22) Anthony FlorentinoDefenseman, 20, 6-1 210, AmericanPlayer Type: Physical Two-Way Defensemen (RH)Current League: NCAA - Providence College (Sophomore)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 143) (23) Jonas JohanssonGoalie, 19, 6-4 193, SwedishCurrent League: SHL - BrynasContract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 3 more yearsAcquired: Draft 2014 Rd.3 (Pick 61) (24) Philip VaroneCenter, 24, 5-10 186, CanadianPlayer Type: Playmaker (LH)Current League: NHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: 2011 Free Agent (25) Jean DupuyLeft Winger, 20, 6-3 194, CanadianPlayer Type: Grinder (LH)Current League: OHL - GreyhoundsContract: 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Free Agent (2014) (26) Victor OlofssonRight Winger, 19, 5-11 187, SwedishPlayer Type: Scorer (LH)Current League: SHL - MODOContract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 3 more yearsAcquired: Draft 2014 Rd.7 (Pick 181) (27) Christopher BrownCenter, 18, 6-0 183, AmericanPlayer Type: Scorer/Playmaker (RH)Current League: USHL - Green Bay Gamblers (Boston College in 2015)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Drafted 2014 Rd.6 (Pick 151) (28) Daniel CatenacciLeft Winger, 22, 5-10 180, CanadianPlayer Type: Scorer/Playmaker (LH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2011 Rd.3 (Pick 77) (29) Justin KeaCenter, 21, 6-4 211, CanadianPlayer Type: Grinder/Two Way Forward (LH)Current League: ECHLContract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.3 (Pick 73) (30) Jason KasdorfGoaltender, 22, 6-4 201, CanadianCurrent League: NCAAContract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Trade with Jets (Drafted 2011 - Rd.6) (31) Brady AustinDefensemen, 21, 6-4 230, CanadianPlayer Type: Defensive Defensemen (LH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.7 (Pick 193) (32) Jerry D'AmigoLeft Winger, 23, 5-11 203, AmericanPlayer Type: Two-way Forward (LH)Current League: NHLContract: 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: Trade with Blue Jackets (Drafted 2009 Rd.6) (33) Max Willman Left Winger, 19, 6-0 183, AmericanPlayer Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)Current League: NCAA – Brown Univ (Freshman)Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAAAcquired: Drafted 2014 Rd.5 (Pick 121) (34) Nathan LieuwenGoaltender, 23, 6-5 181, CanadianCurrent League: AHLContract: 1 year remaining, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2009 Rd.6 (pick 167)(35) Jerome Leduc Defensemen, 22, 6-2 196, CanadianPlayer Type: Offensive Defensemen (RH)Current League: AHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.3 (Pick 68) (36) Kevin SundherCenter, 23, 5-11 180, CanadianPlayer Type: Playmaker (LH)Current League: ECHLContract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.3 (Pick 75)(37) Colin JacobsRight Winger, 22, 6-1 210, AmericanPlayer Type: Two-Way Forward (RH)Current League: ECHLContract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFAAcquired: Drafted 2011 Rd.4 (Pick 107) Edited March 22, 2015 by Vlad Dangerslakov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Thanks for putting in the effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I don't agree with every fine point, but that's an outstanding piece of work Numark. Thank you. Observation of the day: The Sabres are going to have to do some trading up and take full advantage of loopholes like minor-league-only contracts to avoid squandering prospects against the 50-contract limit. And they needed Elmira to give everybody playing time. Darkhorse prediction: Tim Schaller will see the NHL before many of the players ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I just have a hard time considering that pool good or deep with Chad "costanza" Ruhwedal just out side the top 10. He's just not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I just have a hard time considering that pool good or deep with Chad "costanza" Ruhwedal just out side the top 10. He's just not that good. Let's face it, you're complaining about a guy who is listed at 13 in those rankings. I'd venture a guess that most teams don't have a prospect pool that has more than five NHL level guys on it, let alone ten or 13. If someone really is that far down on a list, you're looking at a 13th forward or a 7th defenseman. Sure, someone could step up and surprise, but my money would never be on the oldest guy on the list (or one of the three oldest, I'm too lazy to look up the birthdays). And looking over the list, the thought came to mind that I haven't heard much about contract signings for the 2012 draft class. If my memory is correct, Kea already got one last year. What about the rest of those guys? Has there been any talk of who will/won't get a contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I don't agree with every fine point, but that's an outstanding piece of work Numark. Thank you. Observation of the day: The Sabres are going to have to do some trading up and take full advantage of loopholes like minor-league-only contracts to avoid squandering prospects against the 50-contract limit. And they needed Elmira to give everybody playing time. Darkhorse prediction: Tim Schaller will see the NHL before many of the players ahead of him. I've read a lot of good things about Schaller. We could use a possession bruising 4th line center. That said he is one of those players I would like to see spend an entire season in Rochester. I think more pro experience can only help him. I just have a hard time considering that pool good or deep with Chad "costanza" Ruhwedal just out side the top 10. He's just not that good. That may be true but we have 4 picks in the top 2rounds this year and 4 again next year. I wouldn't worry about Ruhwedal. Besides like Shrader says, he would be a 7th defender in that depth chart which isn't really a problem. The real problem as I see it going into this draft and season is that we have Grigs, Armia, Larsson as some of our top offensive prospects and I would say all of them are NHL ????? This team desperately needs forward talent still IMPO. Fasching, Compher, Baptiste, Possler those guys look really good but are at least another 1-3 years away from seeing the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I just have a hard time considering that pool good or deep with Chad "costanza" Ruhwedal just out side the top 10. He's just not that good. The coming problem isn't the cap or the salary floor, it is how to keep all the future prospects under the 50 contract limit. I think with a decent year between the A and the NHL...Rudy will be trade-bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 That was a great writeup, Numark. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Also the rankings were done by a mix of ceiling/likelihood to reach ceiling. So players like Larsson and Ruhwedel have lower ceilings than players around them in the rankings, but I feel they have a higher chance of reaching them. It's not a ranking if the best or most valuable prospects. But I'm no prospect expert, that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Also the rankings were done by a mix of ceiling/likelihood to reach ceiling. So players like Larsson and Ruhwedel have lower ceilings than players around them in the rankings, but I feel they have a higher chance of reaching them. It's not a ranking if the best or most valuable prospects. But I'm no prospect expert, that's for sure! I enjoyed your work. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Numark, Nice read. 1 q: what does your 1/5 - 4/5 rating mean? Is that the %age of confidence you have in your projection or something else? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Numark, Nice read. 1 q: what does your 1/5 - 4/5 rating mean? Is that the %age of confidence you have in your projection or something else? Thanks. So I put their potential (in my opinion), and then put what level of likelihood there is of them reaching the potential. 5/5 would mean a top 3-5 pick, while 1/5 is the lowest possible level! Don't think of it as percentages (80% likely, or 100% likely), as there is no such thing as 100% likely. Just think of it as intervals, a 5/5 would be a sure-thing who is assumed will reach his potential (ekblad, mackinnon). While ristolainen is the next interval down. Top six forward examples: 5/5 = Mackinnon, Bennett, McDavid 4/5 = Virtanen, Dal Colle 3/5 = Grigorenko, Armia 2/5 = JT Compher 1/5 = Any 3rd rounder Edited May 22, 2014 by Numark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 So I put their potential (in my opinion), and then put what level of likelihood there is of them reaching the potential. 5/5 would mean a top 3-5 pick, while 1/5 is the lowest possible level! Don't think of it as percentages (80% likely, or 100% likely), as there is no such thing as 100% likely. Just think of it as intervals, a 5/5 would be a sure-thing who is assumed will reach his potential (ekblad, mackinnon). While ristolainen is the next interval down. Top six forward examples: 5/5 = Mackinnon, Bennett, McDavid 4/5 = Virtanen, Dal Colle 3/5 = Grigorenko, Armia 2/5 = JT Compher 1/5 = Any 3rd rounder Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hockey Future's Sabres Prospect Awards. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/108055/skill-and-depth-on-display-in-buffalo-sabres-prospect-awards/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ullmark signs three year ELC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ullmark signs three year ELC. good job, gee'em-tee'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphs mike Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thanks Numark - I was most interested in the contract status I was just wondering about Fasching after reading that e signed Deslauriers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Fasching just finished his freshman college season. I think he'll play at least one more year in college. (Then a year in the minors before becoming the Ken Hodge to Draisaitl's Esposito and McDavid's Bobby Orr. Because the off-season is a time to dream.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Wonder if he starts in Elmira or Rochester and does this mean anything for Hackett's Future in the organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Wonder if he starts in Elmira or Rochester and does this mean anything for Hackett's Future in the organization? He'll spend another year in the SHL with Modo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 He'll spend another year in the SHL with Modo. Beat me to it. Then I'd guess he'll spend a year in Rochester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Update on Hackett: @MattHackett31 10h Back to buffalo surgery tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Obviously not all these guys will make it, and some of them will be traded. But projecting five years down the road: First line potential:, 2014 Buf, 2015 NYI, 2015 Buf, Myers, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Middle six potential: Hodgson, Ennis, Girgensons, Armia, Grigorenko, Foligno, Fasching, Compher, Baptiste, Hurley, Bailey, Pysyk, McCabe, Ullmark Bottom six potential: Deslauriers, Carrier, Larsson, Kea, Schaller, Catenacci, Ruhwedel, Makarov, Peterson Throw in three seconds this year and the Blues first and two more seconds next year to get a blue chip goalie prospect and a few more defenceman. That's 35 players with a legitimate shot at being useful NHLers, all the key roles covered, and a good mix of speed, size, skill and compete. Even if only two-thirds of them make it, it will be pretty hard not to be a good team. Edited May 28, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 For example, it could come together like this: Fasching/Eichel/Reinhart Armia/Girgensons/Hodgson Compher/Grigorenko/Foligno Deslauriers/Larsson/Catenacci Zadorov/Ristolainen Myers/McCabe Pysyk/Weber Enroth Ullmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 For example, it could come together like this: Fasching/Eichel/Reinhart Armia/Girgensons/Hodgson Compher/Grigorenko/Foligno Deslauriers/Larsson/Catenacci Zadorov/Ristolainen Myers/McCabe Pysyk/Weber Enroth Ullmark That lineup, while there are a lot of unknown players with solid potential, looks terrible. But that's because they obviously won't have a lineup five years from now filled only of players already here or drafted in the coming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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