stenbaro Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24564341/report-penguins-fire-head-coach-dan-bylsma-gm-ray-shero Quote
wjag Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 See what happens when you lose the Olympics.. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 What did they do wrong? They didn't trade for Milan Lucic. ;) Quote
SwampD Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 What did they do wrong? They didn't have three ownership changes. Quote
Stoner Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? Quote
darksabre Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? Because Murray is an independent woman and he don't need no man. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? Didn't know Ottawa needed a coach. Quote
X. Benedict Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? I think the play of his bottom 6 is why. Buffalo has a about 10 players in the bottom 6, so I wouldn't touch Bylsma. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Mark Spector @SportsnetSpec Penguins presser live here at 1130 Et: http://www.sportsnet.ca/sportsnet-live Quote
Stoner Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 I think the play of his bottom 6 is why. Buffalo has a about 10 players in the bottom 6, so I wouldn't touch Bylsma. If the conventional wisdom is that Nolan gets the axe once the team is closer to contending — at the expedient moment — and you'd be looking for a Bylsma then, why not put the coaching piece in place now? Quote
Iron Crotch Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 The Pens draft history is abysmal as of late. Yes, they've traded away a lot of picks, but they pretty much haven't gotten anything out of entire drafts. This article is interesting.... http://thepensblog.c...raft-piece.html Quote
dudacek Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) No surprise with Bylsma but I am surprised about Shero. Can I have an objective explanation why Bylsma is a better coach for next year's Sabres than Nolan? I'm being serious here. Edited May 16, 2014 by dudacek Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? Because he's not a good coach. Quote
darksabre Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Because he's not a good coach. Shut up. Bylsma is a good coach and everyone needs to leave Lucic alone! Quote
That Aud Smell Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 The Pens draft history is abysmal as of late. Yes, they've traded away a lot of picks, but they pretty much haven't gotten anything out of entire drafts. This article is interesting.... http://thepensblog.c...raft-piece.html that is interesting. it also gives some hope in the fact that we have craig patrick on board. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 So Bylsma hasn't been fired it will be up to the new GM Quote
Iron Crotch Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 that is interesting. it also gives some hope in the fact that we have craig patrick on board. Yeah, conventional wisdom says anyone could have drafted guys like Crosby and Malkin, which is true. But, Patrick did pretty well with his other picks. Quote
dEnnis the Menace Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Bylsma is an overrated coach just like Torts. Don't want him. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 Bylsma is an overrated coach just like Torts. Don't want him. I agree for Christ sakes he has two of the best players in the world on his team. Quote
X. Benedict Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 If the conventional wisdom is that Nolan gets the axe once the team is closer to contending — at the expedient moment — and you'd be looking for a Bylsma then, why not put the coaching piece in place now? I think because Nolan is the better coach for what we have now. The 2014-15 season. I've never been a fan of Nolan's X's and O's but I've never doubted the compete level. First things first: Work ethic, become a bear of a team to compete against, and then fine tune. I think Nolan is okay for stage one and two. Quote
Hoss Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 The Pens draft history is abysmal as of late. Yes, they've traded away a lot of picks, but they pretty much haven't gotten anything out of entire drafts. This article is interesting.... http://thepensblog.c...raft-piece.html Abysmal? More like abylsmal... Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Two thoughts: a) Bylsma is an overrated coach just like Torts. Don't want him. I agree for Christ sakes he has two of the best players in the world on his team. That said, he's at least a capable coach, teams will interview him, and somebody will hire him. (If he's fired by the Penguins) b) Bylsma comes off as more of an X's and O's coach (see: Babcock, Vigneault, Maurice), not a light a fire under your ass coach (Sutter, Tortorella, Roy). His motivational power (read: getting every last drop of effort out of a player) seems weaker than some, which could be contributing to the problems in their bottom six. I believe Nolan is (and has at least partially demonstrated) the latter. I also believe we want that style of motivational coach for our young players. They'll learn to work hard, develop good fundamentals at the pro level, and learn the level of effort required to win. X's and O's are important, but that comes later once young guys learn how to play in this league. Nolan's probably among the right head coaches for what we're trying to accomplish in the next few years. Edited May 16, 2014 by IKnowPhysics Quote
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