SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) What exactly has Reich done to deserve a shot so soon? The Chargers imploded at the end of the year and he has one year under his belt. Now that Marrone is gone, you got to shoot higher then that And, Schwartz? Hasn't Detroit proven he was in over his head? Hamilton? Is he bringing Luck with him? Missed this the first time. To the bolded, absofunkinlutely! Edited January 1, 2015 by SwampD
Hoss Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Other names I like: Darrell Bevell, Seattle's OC. They've hit a bit of a wall offensively and have relied heavily on Lynch, but Bevell has had success elsewhere, too. David Shaw, HC of Stanford. Long shot but he's got NFL history and deep offensive ties. Yes please. I don't care about "aiming high." The only candidate that would be aiming high is Shaw. He's the only long shot candidate that would probably be talked about. Get the right guy. If you think it's an up-and-comer like Hamilton or Reich then go for it. If it's a guy that's been around longer like Bevell, Schwartz or another? Okay. Just get it right. Edited January 1, 2015 by Tank
deluca67 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 First winning record since the last guy who quit...check! This ###### sucks. Way to blow it. After the first season in forever that was actually worth a squirt of piss to watch, we now get to watch "learning curve" ###### football. Great. 9-7 record this season, the way the season played out wasn't good enough. The Bills had a real opportunity to be a playoff team and they left wins out on the field. This teams failure to make the playoffs was in no small part due to overly conservative coaching and a lack of player discipline.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Brought a ###### tier franchise to win their division for the first time in years in an extremely strong division. I'll take Shwartz. The players like him, he's already here (no more instability), and he's a great defensive mind. Ryan would be great, but if it risks losing Shwartz/ having a divided locker room I'll take Shwartz I honestly think Ryan and Schwartz have similar strengths/weaknesses, and Ryan's strengths are simply better. Back to back AFC title games with Mark Sanchez!!!
Hoss Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Brining in Ryan makes zero sense. His issues with NY were putrid offenses with a good defense. More of the same. Do we want yet another scheme change to more of a 3-4? No thanks. Schwartz only makes sense because we don't want to lose him, but a defensive minded coach just doesn't make sense for the franchise. I want him to stay on as DC, but he's not our HC.
WildCard Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 I honestly think Ryan and Schwartz have similar strengths/weaknesses, and Ryan's strengths are simply better. Back to back AFC title games with Mark Sanchez!!! Two different coaching styles IMO. Shwartz relies on a great front-4 that can plug the run and put on pressure; he's shown it on every team he's been on. Ryan relies on pressure, 1 great CB, and unique looks. We have what Shwartz needs, and he's proven it with giving us a top 3 defense this year.
SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 9-7 record this season, the way the season played out wasn't good enough. The Bills had a real opportunity to be a playoff team and they left wins out on the field. This teams failure to make the playoffs was in no small part due to overly conservative coaching and a lack of player discipline. They better have a name in mind. Otherwise, they should have done whatever it takes to keep him. Rolling the dice on the next unknown is just continuation of the small market moves of the past 15 years.
tom webster Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Okay. Your ideas? These guys are considered good candidates by more than just message board kids. Easy. I didn't respond because you are a kid on a message board. I responded because you are wrong.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Terry Pegula will not bring in Rex Ryan......the guy is cocky and has backed it up, says, "Let's go get a GD'm f'n snack"....and likes feet...well, 2 of 3 at least are no-go's.... Reich, as much as I like him as a person and a team player....does Christian motivational speaking on the side, and that is right up the wheelhouse. I wonder if Pegula knows about what Polian said about Ralph's daughter? Holy crap.....my city is full of bikes on ice, and sports cluster-f's........
TrueBlueGED Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Two different coaching styles IMO. Shwartz relies on a great front-4 that can plug the run and put on pressure; he's shown it on every team he's been on. Ryan relies on pressure, 1 great CB, and unique looks. We have what Shwartz needs, and he's proven it with giving us a top 3 defense this year. Oh they're definitely different stylistically, I'll grant you that. What I was trying to get at is they're both defensive specialists without much of a clue on offense or game management. I just think Ryan's a better defensive specialist than Schwartz, even if the styles are polar opposite.
Hoss Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Easy. I didn't respond because you are a kid on a message board. I responded because you are wrong. So what's right? Who ya got lined up for the job?
deluca67 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 They better have a name in mind. Otherwise, they should have done whatever it takes to keep him. Rolling the dice on the next unknown is just continuation of the small market moves of the past 15 years. I'd start by looking at candidates who are what Marrone was supposed to be. A modern coach with progressive ideas. What we ended up with was a man who coached like a 70 year old. The Lions, Cardinals and Seahawks all have candidates that deserve a close look.
WildCard Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 Oh they're definitely different stylistically, I'll grant you that. What I was trying to get at is they're both defensive specialists without much of a clue on offense or game management. I just think Ryan's a better defensive specialist than Schwartz, even if the styles are polar opposite. If I was given a blank roster and asked which DC I'd take, it'd be Ryan, because he can work without a lot of talent because he is their best asset on D. But given what we have, even if Shwartz wasn't here beforehand and it was just "take a DC", I'd take Shwartz.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 If I was given a blank roster and asked which DC I'd take, it'd be Ryan, because he can work without a lot of talent because he is their best asset on D. But given what we have, even if Shwartz wasn't here beforehand and it was just "take a DC", I'd take Shwartz. Fair enough. All I hope for now is we don't get stuck with Mike Smith, which is basically what Marrone would be with a QB.
SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 I'd start by looking at candidates who are what Marrone was supposed to be. A modern coach with progressive ideas. What we ended up with was a man who coached like a 70 year old. The Lions, Cardinals and Seahawks all have candidates that deserve a close look. And yet he still won 9 games. With only minor improvements next year, we're an 11 win team. But why mess with progress when we can just take a chance and try to win the lottery?
SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 I'd take Rex Ryan as a DC. We already have one. In case people forgot, Rodgers, Brady, and Manning had ZERO TD passes in their last game against the Bills. Rex is a sideshow.
wjag Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 We already have one. In case people forgot, Rodgers, Brady, and Manning had ZERO TD passes in their last game against the Bills. Rex is a sideshow. I know. I figured Schwartz was going to get elevated to HC.
JJFIVEOH Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 9-7 record this season, the way the season played out wasn't good enough. The Bills had a real opportunity to be a playoff team and they left wins out on the field. This teams failure to make the playoffs was in no small part due to overly conservative coaching and a lack of player discipline. This is exactly it, they lost at least two games because of these issues. And they were never corrected as the season went on.
wjag Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 We already have one. In case people forgot, Rodgers, Brady, and Manning had ZERO TD passes in their last game against the Bills. Rex is a sideshow. I'd also remind you that the Bills gave up a bunch of rushing TDs during those games. They didn't need to throw. I distinctly remember Anderson rushing for 3 of them.
Stoner Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Multiple sources close to both parties told The News that Marrone was uncomfortable with the unknown of working with Terry and Kim Pegula and the changes they could make to the Bills' football operations. http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/12/31/doug-marrone-takes-clause-jilts-bills/
dudacek Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Wasted the best defence we've seen in 15 years and acted like an arrogant douchebag on a consistent basis. Will not miss Marrone.
SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 I'd also remind you that the Bills gave up a bunch of rushing TDs during those games. They didn't need to throw. I distinctly remember Anderson rushing for 3 of them. Wasn't that after we lost 99 in the middle.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 http://bills.buffalo...se-jilts-bills/ I think a tell was when he said in the press conference about Orton..."I was texting the owner". Not Mr. Pegula, not Terry, a text to the owner...... Let's see what happens. Very possible Schwartz goes somewhere else and we are naked. Hufnagel/Bradley '15!!! To Maronne's credit....he took his job seriously. Look at the picture of him with Russ and Buddy when he was introduced, and then the other day. Looks like Bill Clinton after 8 years in the presidency. Maronne IS a cancer survivor by the way, but never wanted it public but for a web intern screwing the pooch..... that can change your outlook on timeframe and who you want to deal with...
SwampD Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 This might explain a lot: Paul Peck @PeckOnSports 33s34 seconds ago I don't think anyone at 1 Bills Dr is sad to see Marrone go. I hear he just wore people out with his miserable attitude. Who did he wear out? Brandon? Whaley? Pegula? It certainly wasn't the players, and wgaf if it was anyway, they played for him until the end. If this is even remotely true then the Bills better use it to their advantage and get a sweet endorsement deal from Massengill. I sure hope our next coach knows how to smile and be nice. That's way more important than winning.
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