Andrew Amerk Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Based on the stats what is there that you see in Locker that the rest of the NFL doesn't? It's not always about stats, as you seem to think. You are advocating for Bradford because of 3,000 yards? Orton and 24 other QBs are probably going to toss 3,000 this season. Again. No on Cutler, yes to RG3, nothing wrong with checking out Locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 It's not always about stats, as you seem to think. You are advocating for Bradford because of 3,000 yards? Orton and 24 other QBs are probably going to toss 3,000 this season. Again. No on Cutler, yes to RG3, nothing wrong with checking out Locker. There is absolutely something wrong with Locker if you're going to bring him in as your starter. He's a waste of time even as a third string at this point. He just doesn't have the ability or the health. He played three games this year -- then got hurt... Came back for a game -- then got hurt... Then came back for three games -- then got hurt... That is the story of his career. It's not changing. Stats aren't everything but when there's such an extreme difference then it shows you enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 He has like 82 career starts at this point, do you honestly believe he's going to start learning things he hasn't yet? If you believe coaches have value, then yes, Bring in the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Let's pretend that my comments above, not involving fumbles, don't exist? Look, smartass, I've watched his nine seasons with one playoff appearance. I've seen his mediocre play. He is Orton. Orton is him. Denver and Chicago traded clones. Yup. Denver shed a mediocre QB and acquired a mediocre QB. Cutler has a slight better QB rating over the years than Orton, 85.3 vs 80.8. Completion % - Orton 59.3 vs 61.7 Cutler. Yards per attempt - 7.19 Cutler vs 6.64 Orton. But Orton is MUCH better at protecting the ball, on average, than Cutler. Average interceptions per game played - Cutler - 1.1 interceptions per game Orton - 0.8 Average fumbles per game Cutler - 0.4 Orton - 0.2 On paper Cutler is a slight upgrade over Orton - but there is an intangible - leadership and enthusiasm, and I think dour-faced Cutler lags WAY behind Orton in that immeasurable stat. Cutler will demand a lot more money and a longer contract than Orton. It's not worth it. Wait and get a GOOD QB, a REAL improvement over Orton. The reason we're stuck with EJ Manuel is that idiot Buddy Nix insisted on drafting a QB from that QB class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 He got benched for Jimmy Clausen! This guy! That's all we need to know. :P The only person he got benched for was Jay Cutler. This has absolutely nothing to do with the backup. Even if their backup was the demented offspring of Trent Edwards and JP Losman, he was still going to be benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 From CNN today: "You're just glad you have your helmet on." That's how New England Patriots receiver Brandon LaFell describes being part of quarterback Tom Brady's head-butt celebrations. There aren't many quarterbacks in the league who show as much emotion as Brady does, especially after a score, and the 37-year-old signal-caller tends to head-butt his teammates when he gets fired up. Well, turns out Brady's teammates are more fearful than excited when they see him running over to them to celebrate. A few Patriots players talked to The Wall Street Journal's Kevin Clark about what it feels like to be on the receiving end of a Brady head-slam. Receiver Brian Tyms, who caught a 43-yard touchdown pass from Brady in his first game with the Patriots, has discovered that distance isn't going to stop Brady from celebrating. You've got to—got to—be prepared for his head-butts and high-fives, because they are coming…You've got to brace yourself. It doesn't look like much coming at you but it's intense. If he throws the ball 50 yards and you run 50 yards and score, he's going to run all 50 yards and head-butt the hell out of you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 @buffalobills Doug Marrone: @CJSPILLER will be added to the 53-man roster. He's officially listed as PROBABLE for Sunday. #BUFvsOAK Even if he plays I don't think he gets many touches. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 @buffalobills Doug Marrone: @CJSPILLER will be added to the 53-man roster. He's officially listed as PROBABLE for Sunday. #BUFvsOAK Even if he plays I don't think he gets many touches. But who knows. I think it'll be just a "get your feet wet, and get back into a rhythm" game for Spiller. Like you said, not too many touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I haven't seen much of Cutler, but I'm hard pressed to imagine any qb having a worse pocket presence than Orton Too young to remember Rob Johnson? Dear Angry Eleven, Jay Cutler's mediocre play is a step up from Kyle Orton's sub-mediocrity. It may not be worth trading an asset for, but they are most certainly not the same player. I eagerly await my thrashing. Sincerely, Glass Very nice. You've really gotten awful lately. Every one of your posts is filled with condescension and when ever anyone calls you on your BS you get all butthurt. You need to lighten up and have more fun. None of us here are all that important. Ahem! Can we make PA's Rectum the Internet King? I don't want to be the Internet King. If it's not the internet king, it should at least be someone's screen name (but not avatar I hope). Yup. Denver shed a mediocre QB and acquired a mediocre QB. Cutler has a slight better QB rating over the years than Orton, 85.3 vs 80.8. Completion % - Orton 59.3 vs 61.7 Cutler. Yards per attempt - 7.19 Cutler vs 6.64 Orton. But Orton is MUCH better at protecting the ball, on average, than Cutler. Average interceptions per game played - Cutler - 1.1 interceptions per game Orton - 0.8 Average fumbles per game Cutler - 0.4 Orton - 0.2 On paper Cutler is a slight upgrade over Orton - but there is an intangible - leadership and enthusiasm, and I think dour-faced Cutler lags WAY behind Orton in that immeasurable stat. Cutler will demand a lot more money and a longer contract than Orton. It's not worth it. Wait and get a GOOD QB, a REAL improvement over Orton. The reason we're stuck with EJ Manuel is that idiot Buddy Nix insisted on drafting a QB from that QB class. Good post, and I agree that the intangibles matter. If a guy's teammates don't like him or believe in him, all the pretty passes in the world won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 http://grantland.com/the-triangle/chicago-bears-jay-cutler-scapegoat/ http://grantland.com/features/we-seem-keep-redefining-jay-cutler-every-four-quarters/ Couple of good articles on Cutler. I don't think they're really mind-changing type articles, but they're good reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cutler is no better than orton overall. And this is with Cutler possessing vastly superior arm strength and athleticism. -A Cutler signing would put the exclamation point on decades of dumb decisions by the Buffalo Bills. Yes he will look great for a game or two before driving everyone completely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Too young to remember a lot of qbs for the Bills Freeman, though at this point I think it's a good thing. I remember the cannon and idiocy of Losman, Captain check down in Trent Edwards, and Fitz-Magic as the mainstays, if you can call them that, of Bill's qbs in my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Huge game on right now for the Bills. Pretty much a need to win for SF for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 That was such a Bills play for the 49ers to fumble it away inside the 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Charger's players are dropping like flies. Center and d-linemen out for maybe the whole game already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 SF up 21-0. I just hope this isn't like 2004 where everything fell in place for us to make the playoffs only to have the Bills blow it by losing the final game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Too young to remember a lot of qbs for the Bills Freeman, though at this point I think it's a good thing. I remember the cannon and idiocy of Losman, Captain check down in Trent Edwards, and Fitz-Magic as the mainstays, if you can call them that, of Bill's qbs in my time. To tell you all you need to know, Rob Johnson holds the NFL record for most times sacked per pass attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 SF up 21-0. I just hope this isn't like 2004 where everything fell in place for us to make the playoffs only to have the Bills blow it by losing the final game. ###### count on it. It will be against 3rd stringers too. I've never been so mad as a fan as that loss to the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well... ###### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 un-######-believable SF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 ###### San Fran with a bat.....be offended That was some ###### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 ######. Now Shittsburgh has to beat KC tomorrow and KC has to beat San Diego next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just one more reason to justify my utter hatred for Kaepernick, Baby Harbaugh and anything else 49er related. I'm not surprised though, it's par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 ######. Now Shittsburgh has to beat KC tomorrow and KC has to beat San Diego next week. Or SD can win next week and the Ravens and Bengals can lose out. There are still possibilities, though things are definitely worse now than they were 15 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 The ONLY thing worse than HAVING to root for San Fran is watching them blow that ####ing game. :censored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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