HopefulFuture Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Not really. They'll lose 5 or 6 more. Don't get me to chuckling now Ink. :D How can two teams continually drive me f'ing crazy and i keep coming back for more? Tortured sports soul syndrome.......a.k.a............Buffalo sports fan
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 You sure about that? Yes I'm ###### sure.
JJFIVEOH Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 This team will lose to the Pats, Broncos and Packers which puts them at 5-7. That means they will HAVE TO beat the Browns, Raiders, Dolphins and Jets..... and 9-7 is even guaranteed to get a playoff spot. This win was pivotal and we can blame coaching on the loss.
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Yes I'm ###### sure. 22, 8, 26, 12, 11, 11, 28, 9, 3, 10, 16, and traded up to 4 this past year. That looks alot like finishing 16-25 in the NHL, no? Edited November 9, 2014 by weave
Claude_Verret Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Not really. They'll lose 5 or 6 more. 6-10?
Iron Crotch Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 This game was frustrating because it was clearly winable and the Bills were (probably) the better team. The two fumbles (Brown & McKelvin) were pretty much the difference.
Claude_Verret Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 NFL draft and NHL draft are two completely different beasts.
wjag Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Marrone didn't fumble the ball out of the endzone.
SwampD Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Here are a few of my observations on this game. -Our D is really good. -Alex Smith is really good. -McKelvin might be the stupidest human on the planet. Your fumble directly led to the Chiefs taking the lead for good. On your next great return, don't take your helmet off and act like we should praise you. Jackass! -weave, that should have been a penalty. I can't figure out why it wasn't. - No way was that a false start. -Gronkowski would absolutely not have had that PI called on him. -Why so many empty backfields with that much time on the clock and another 1st down to be had. Hackett is suspect. -The fact that we were even in that game with a banged up #1 RB, relying on out #3 and 4RBs, half a #1 WR, and Kyle Orton as our QB,… pretty respectable if you ask me. Baby steps.
deluca67 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 The Bills coaching staff knew when they got the ball back there would be about 25-30 seconds left, or at least they should have. How is it possible that when the offense went out there at the end of the game they were completely unprepared? Marrone didn't fumble the ball out of the endzone. A player's lack of ball security is 100% on the coaching staff. It's about discipline and game awareness which this team is lacking in.
wjag Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 The Bills coaching staff knew when they got the ball back there would be about 25-30 seconds left, or at least they should have. How is it possible that when the offense went out there at the end of the game they were completely unprepared? A player's lack of ball security is 100% on the coaching staff. It's about discipline and game awareness which this team is lacking in. BS.. The guy came in here with a history of fumbling. If you want to hold the coach accountable, then do it for the decisions he makes. Like going for it on 4th down and not kicking a field goal.
qwksndmonster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 We were calling a real offense today, too bad the players are inexperienced when it comes to getting it done in a game setting. Coaching, coaching, coaching, every week. And Kyle Orton is still mediocre. Being better than EJ doesn't make you good.
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 22, 8, 26, 12, 11, 11, 28, 9, 3, 10, 16, and traded up to 4 this past year. That looks alot like finishing 16-25 in the NHL, no? 8, 8, 10, 3, 9, 11, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13, 14, 4. Those are the spots that the Bills were slotted to draft prior to any trades. 1, 8, 12, 16, 23, 13, 13, 28, 24, (13), 13, 5, 11. Those are the spots that the Sabres were slotted prior to any trades/lottery movements. The Bills selection was higher twice. Bills average: 9.2. Sabres average: 13.9. Bit of a difference. NFL draft and NHL draft are two completely different beasts. This, as well.
qwksndmonster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 BS.. The guy came in here with a history of fumbling. If you want to hold the coach accountable, then do it for the decisions he makes. Like going for it on 4th down and not kicking a field goal. Fumbling on positive offensive plays has ben a huge problem this year and deluca is right to hang it on the coaching staff.
Taro T Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 The Bills coaching staff knew when they got the ball back there would be about 25-30 seconds left, or at least they should have. How is it possible that when the offense went out there at the end of the game they were completely unprepared? A player's lack of ball security is 100% on the coaching staff. It's about discipline and game awareness which this team is lacking in. So, Brown's fumbles are on BOTH coaching staffs that were out there today? :huh:
deluca67 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 BS.. The guy came in here with a history of fumbling. If you want to hold the coach accountable, then do it for the decisions he makes. Like going for it on 4th down and not kicking a field goal. If the player comes in with a history of fumbles then it is clear that the coaching staff didn't properly address ball security with the player because like the Sammy Watkins play a couple of weeks ago, it should have never happened.
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I posted my thoughts over on TSW, but I'll share the same thing here... 4 mind boggling events... 1 - Bryce Brown fumble on a play where if tackled would have been 1st and goal inside the 5. 2 - Chandlers inability to easily grab Brown's fumble in the endzone. 3 - McKelvin fumble leading to game winning score for KC. 4 - Four incomplete passes to the endzone from 1st and 10 at the 15 with the Bills in a great position to score. The OC has been stubborn and has been running the ball all year long, and with the game on the line in a situation where they were in 4 down territory...4 pass plays. That being said, 4 pretty bad throws by Orton in that situation. Edited November 9, 2014 by LabattBlue
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 8, 8, 10, 3, 9, 11, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13, 14, 4. Those are the spots that the Bills were slotted to draft prior to any trades. 1, 8, 12, 16, 23, 13, 13, 28, 24, (13), 13, 5, 11. Those are the spots that the Sabres were slotted prior to any trades/lottery movements. The Bills selection was higher twice. Bills average: 9.2. Sabres average: 13.9. Bit of a difference. Not enough to be meaningful. Two mediocre franchises. #Tankemall!
wjag Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) If the player comes in with a history of fumbles then it is clear that the coaching staff didn't properly address ball security with the player because like the Sammy Watkins play a couple of weeks ago, it should have never happened. sorry.. I think this is myopic analysis and discounts the other team and their actions and motivations. I can see if you are arguing that a player catches the punt inside the 10 as a coach-able moment. Ball security can be coached only to a point. Edited November 9, 2014 by wjag
qwksndmonster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Not enough to be meaningful. Two mediocre franchises. #Tankemall! Why does every thread on the board have to have this discussion? And are you taking it out on tank that the Sabres are bad? Man up.
TrueBlueGED Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 And Kyle Orton is still mediocre. Being better than EJ doesn't make you good. Yes. Those 3 shots at the end zone on our last real drive? They were all awful throws. Of course the turnovers hurt, and Marrone is Jauronesque, but we still had every opportunity to win.
qwksndmonster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Yes. Those 3 shots at the end zone on our last real drive? They were all awful throws. Of course the turnovers hurt, and Marrone is Jauronesque, but we still had every opportunity to win. With a mediocre qb and scared coaching i never thought this team was gonna make the playoffs. Today was a pivotal loss for those reasons. Orton played well enough to win, though, that's definitely true.
SwampD Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Why does every thread on the board have to have this discussion? And are you taking it out on tank that the Sabres are bad? Man up. Tankalicious could have said ANYTHING else except "a new coach" or "a high draft pick" and we wouldn't have responded. He brought it on himself.
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Why does every thread on the board have to have this discussion? And are you taking it out on tank that the Sabres are bad? Man up. You know damned well you'd point out hypocrisy on here when you see it. Nothing to "man up" about, whatever the hell that means on a message board.
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