26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I still want Evans. TB may be a good destination for Evans at #7 with Williams departure. Vincent Jackson and Evans would be a great duo for the Bucs.
Johnny DangerFace Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Man, i know its not a sexy pick, but i dont think you all realize how bad our line was last year. You cant run or pass no matter how many playmakers you have if you line is bad. Especially the interior of our line Edited April 4, 2014 by Numark
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Man, i know its not a sexy pick, but i dont think you all realize how bad our line was last year. You cant run or pass no matter how many playmakers you have if you line is bad. Especially the interior of our line LG was a downright embarrassment. RG with Urbick and RT with Pears were simply not good enough.
Hoss Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 LG was a downright embarrassment. RG with Urbick and RT with Pears were simply not good enough. And the guy they signed to fill in at left guard, Chris Williams, is terrible.
Johnny DangerFace Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 That's what I mean, we have talent at WR, RB, DL, LB, DB. We HAVE to get the line fixed. EJ literally couldn't step into the pocket in half the games. Run profection was non existent and interior pressure was disrupting our entire offense.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 That's what I mean, we have talent at WR, RB, DL, LB, DB. We HAVE to get the line fixed. EJ literally couldn't step into the pocket in half the games. Run profection was non existent and interior pressure was disrupting our entire offense. Let's face it, we need a significant upgrade at both OL and WR/TE for EJ to have a chance. One without the other is useless right now. The order in which they address them is pretty irrelevant to me, so long as they get addressed. I think the best argument for tackle at 9 is that you want your #9 overall pick to come in and make an impact, and rookie WRs are rarely impact players.
Johnny DangerFace Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Let's face it, we need a significant upgrade at both OL and WR/TE for EJ to have a chance. One without the other is useless right now. The order in which they address them is pretty irrelevant to me, so long as they get addressed. I think the best argument for tackle at 9 is that you want your #9 overall pick to come in and make an impact, and rookie WRs are rarely impact players. I think having a good passing game is more dependent on having a good line, than an o line depending on good WRs. I think a receiving core with SJ, woods, Williams, and Goodwin is a lot more talented than our o line as it currently is.
Eleven Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I think having a good passing game is more dependent on having a good line, than an o line depending on good WRs. I think a receiving core with SJ, woods, Williams, and Goodwin is a lot more talented than our o line as it currently is. I agree. I think the Bills' second round pick can be used to address that. I really like what I see out of Evans. Ebron, I've heard some concerns about his blocking on WGR.
nfreeman Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Bills give up a 6th round pick. @ProFootballTalk PFT confirms that Mike Williams has been traded from Bucs to Bills, pending physical. @JamesWalkerNFL first reported. So...another loser with a substantial criminal record. This one was stabbed recently by...his brother. Lovely.
wjag Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 So...another loser with a substantial criminal record. This one was stabbed recently by...his brother. Lovely. Surprised the Ravens didn't scoop him up with those credentials. They are convict U these days.
Johnny DangerFace Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I agree. I think the Bills' second round pick can be used to address that. I really like what I see out of Evans. Ebron, I've heard some concerns about his blocking on WGR. I wouldn't mind o line being addressed in round 2 - 4 ( as long as we get at least 2 of them).
TrueBlueGED Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I think having a good passing game is more dependent on having a good line, than an o line depending on good WRs. I think a receiving core with SJ, woods, Williams, and Goodwin is a lot more talented than our o line as it currently is. I don't inherently disagree, but EJ doesn't exactly have Aaron Rodgers' accuracy, so our current group of receivers isn't an ideal match for him. Getting him someone with a huge catch radius would be a major boon. Again, that need not be Evans at #9, but just in general we lack anyone who is open even when they're covered.
Eleven Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 So...another loser with a substantial criminal record. This one was stabbed recently by...his brother. Lovely. But he's a local lovely loser.
That Aud Smell Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 EJ doesn't exactly have Aaron Rodgers' accuracy, so our current group of receivers isn't an ideal match for him. Getting him someone with a huge catch radius would be a major boon. this is precisely it. ej may yet be a top-12 quarterback who can help us make a playoff run, but accuracy is not a strength and probably never will be. we need big fellas who can go up and get the rock. that a&m guy would certainly fit the bill, but i doubt they go WR now that they have mike williams. if ebron's not the guy at TE, who is? do they wait?
Hoss Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I think Austin Seferian-Jenkins would be the perfect pick in the second round. Reminds me a lot of Tony Gonzalez. Basketball body, boxes out defenders to get himself in good position. Also catches the ball and IMMEDIATELY pulls it into his body. Not enough guys picked up on that from TG. ASF also wears 88 (well he wouldn't' in Buffalo, though).
TrueBlueGED Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I agree. I think the Bills' second round pick can be used to address that. I really like what I see out of Evans. Ebron, I've heard some concerns about his blocking on WGR. I'm pretty sure Ebron can't block. I'm also pretty sure I don't care so long as he's a Davis/Graham/Gronk quality receiving threat.
Eleven Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I'm pretty sure Ebron can't block. I'm also pretty sure I don't care so long as he's a Davis/Graham/Gronk quality receiving threat. Not a bad point.
JJFIVEOH Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Football is going to hell quickly. My interest has been waning year after year. Am I the only one? I usually go to my local pub to watch the Bills play on Sunday, might not be the case this year. Sorry if that's off topic, just needed to rant. Edited April 4, 2014 by JJFIVEOH
Eleven Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Football is going to hell quickly. My interest has been waning year after year. Am I the only one? I usually go to my local pub to watch the Bills play on Sunday, might not be the case this year. Sorry if that's off topic, just needed to rant. Nope. Me too. I still watch the Bills but that's about it.
inkman Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Man, i know its not a sexy pick, but i dont think you all realize how bad our line was last year. You cant run or pass no matter how many playmakers you have if you line is bad. Especially the interior of our line I don't want to take a guard or RT at 9 overall. Get the right QB and your line means nothing. Rodgers and Rapesberger both won SB with below average lines. EJ isn't either of them (yet) so develop him into that or get a guy who is a talent like that. The garbage flying out of Schopp's mouth right now might be his peak of stupidity. So they are interested in Chris Johnson because they are going to package Spiller and the 9th pick to move up in the draft. Is Schopp the wookie? I'm starting to think Schopp posts here. This is the only place I read ideas as stupid as his. Edited April 4, 2014 by inkman
Johnny DangerFace Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 I don't want to take a guard or RT at 9 overall. Get the right QB and your line means nothing. Rodgers and Rapesberger both won SB with below average lines. EJ isn't either of them (yet) so develop him into that or get a guy who is a talent like that. The garbage flying out of Schopp's mouth right now might be his peak of stupidity. So they are interested in Chris Johnson because they are going to package Spiller and the 9th pick to move up in the draft. Is Schopp the wookie? I'm starting to think Schopp posts here. This is the only place I read ideas as stupid as his. Line means nothing with the right QB??? Really?
inkman Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Line means nothing with the right QB??? Really? Yes. Really. Good QB's who make quick reads and move adeptly in the pocket mitigate the need for HOF at every OL position. Granted, you can't have the slobs we had last year playing LG, but it shouldn't be that hard to find a fat guy to stick in there to hold into another fat guy for 3 seconds.
LastPommerFan Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 Line means nothing with the right QB??? Really? Nothing matters until you have the right QB. Once you have that. Pretty much only defense matters.
Weave Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 The garbage flying out of Schopp's mouth right now might be his peak of stupidity. So they are interested in Chris Johnson because they are going to package Spiller and the 9th pick to move up in the draft. Is Schopp the wookie? I'm starting to think Schopp posts here. This is the only place I read ideas as stupid as his. I almost sprayed a mouthful of water all over my laptop after reading this.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 @JohnMurphyShow Complete audio: Brent Axe: M. Williams "plays bigger than he is" http://ow.ly/2FmDud
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